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Catholic bishop supports benefits for gay couples
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Posted on 10/23/2003 7:01:37 PM PDT by narses

Boston-AP) -- The Catholic Church in Massachusetts may be open to extending some benefits to gay couples.

That was the message of Worcester Bishop Daniel Reilly at today's Statehouse hearing on legalizing gay marriage.

Reilly said the church is firmly against gay marriage and civil unions, but believes that the state should provide gay couples with certain economic and social benefits, including bereavement and hospital visitation rights.

Gay rights advocates welcomed the Catholic Church to the debate, but said that denial of marriage would be a violation of same-sex couples' civil rights.

The Judiciary Committee today hosted the first-ever legislative hearing on the legalization of gay marriage or civil union.

The panel also heard testimony on an abortion bill that would require women to wait 24 hours before consenting to the procedure.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholicchurch; catholiclist; danielreilly; gaymarriage; goodridge; marriage; samesexunions
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1 posted on 10/23/2003 7:01:37 PM PDT by narses
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To: GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; livius; ...
How special.
2 posted on 10/23/2003 7:02:00 PM PDT by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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To: narses
That is SO gay.
3 posted on 10/23/2003 7:05:05 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Red Sox in 2004)
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To: narses
What's wrong with hospital visitation rights? If somebody's family has abandoned them because they're gay, maybe the partner is the only person they've got.

I don't know what "bereavement rights" are, but if it's just a representation at the funeral home, I've got no problem with that either.

4 posted on 10/23/2003 7:06:04 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter. You will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: sinkspur
Treating sexual deviancy as if it were equivalent to families is sick. As an alleged Deacon you ought to understand that.
5 posted on 10/23/2003 7:07:53 PM PDT by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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To: narses
Treating sexual deviancy as if it were equivalent to families is sick. As an alleged Deacon you ought to understand that.

As a Deacon, narses, I understand the compassion of Christ.

As a Catholic, you should too.

6 posted on 10/23/2003 7:09:48 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter. You will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: JohnnyZ
And a self proclaimed Modern Deacon applauds this. So special.
7 posted on 10/23/2003 7:09:50 PM PDT by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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To: narses
Can you say "incrementalism", bishop? Yeah, I knew you could.
8 posted on 10/23/2003 7:11:44 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces )
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To: sinkspur
True compassion includes denouncing public sin, not embracing it. "Go and sin no more" is not the same as allowing "economic and social benefits" for sexual deviants.
9 posted on 10/23/2003 7:11:49 PM PDT by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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To: narses
True compassion includes denouncing public sin, not embracing it. "Go and sin no more" is not the same as allowing "economic and social benefits" for sexual deviants.

What "economic benefit" does allowing a gay person's partner involve? It's just allowing somebody to come into the hospital.

Don't worry, narses. Your nickels are safe.

10 posted on 10/23/2003 7:17:13 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter. You will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: Antoninus
The self proclaimed Deacon sat=ys it's just the Compassion of Christ, not incrementalism. Is he right?
11 posted on 10/23/2003 7:17:26 PM PDT by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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To: narses
Having read Bishop Reilly's comments, two presumptions come to mind about his diocese:

1. The recent homosexual scandal has hit his diocese harder than most.

2. His diocese has an especially severe vocations crisis, aggravated by large numbers of heterodox priests, religious, and chancery officials.

Anyone with particular knowledge about the Diocese of Worcester is invited to confirm or rebut these presumptions.

12 posted on 10/23/2003 7:18:25 PM PDT by Loyalist
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13 posted on 10/23/2003 7:18:38 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: sinkspur
"Economic benefits" are insurance "deacon". They are inheritance rights and property rights. Your modernist buddy here is working towards more "rights" for the sexual deviants, and you're applauding him.
14 posted on 10/23/2003 7:19:46 PM PDT by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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To: narses
Where did Bishop O'Reilly say he favored insurance? Or property rights?

Seems to me, all he wants is to let a dying person get visited by a friend or two.

And have those same friends make funeral arrangements.

Are you going to deny them that?

15 posted on 10/23/2003 7:23:21 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter. You will save one life, and may save two.)
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PING
16 posted on 10/23/2003 7:24:46 PM PDT by Loyalist
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To: sinkspur
Are you claiming that your musings equal "economic rights"? Visitation in hospitals and funderal homes are not the issue, it is establishing sexual deviancy as a legal status with the Catholic hierarchy arguing FOR that recognition. Do you want the legitimate children of these queers denied their property rights in favor of one of the many sex partners the sodomites choose?
17 posted on 10/23/2003 7:25:55 PM PDT by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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Trouble brewing in Beantown ping.
18 posted on 10/23/2003 7:25:58 PM PDT by secret garden (Courage is not the lack of fear. It is acting in spite of it. - Mark Twain)
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To: sinkspur
What's wrong with hospital visitation rights? If somebody's family has abandoned them because they're gay, maybe the partner is the only person they've got.

Exactly.
It's one thing to have moral convictions.
It's another thing to want people to suffer for their imperfections.

19 posted on 10/23/2003 7:28:19 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Loyalist
More than 30 sex-abuse lawsuits have been filed in recent years alleging that he and other administrators took part in covering for accused priests during his tenures at three New England dioceses. Bishop Reilly, who also worked in Providence, R.I., and Norwich, Conn., has denied involvement in decisions to transfer clerics. He kept the Rev. Peter Inzerillo of Worcester active despite allegations of sexual misconduct with a young priest candidate in the mid-1980s. The man said the misconduct happened when he was 19 during counseling sessions with Father Inzerillo. He said he had confided to Father Inzerillo that another priest had abused him when he was 13. Father Inzerillo denied the allegation, but after a lawsuit was filed in 1994 the bishop at the time placed him on leave. Years later, Bishop Reilly settled the case for $300,000 and reinstated the priest at a church. Bishop Reilly continued to express support for Father Inzerillo and let him work until March. When parishioners demanded the priest's removal, Bishop Reilly relented and put Father Inzerillo on leave again.
20 posted on 10/23/2003 7:28:33 PM PDT by narses ("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
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