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Michael Schiavo Larry King Live
CNN Live ^ | 10-24-03 | Larry King

Posted on 10/24/2003 7:05:19 PM PDT by JustPiper

Michael Shiavo gets Larry King Monday October 27th,2003. This is a change of programming from website!


TOPICS: Announcements; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bulemia; ccrm; dadoffered700000; dadwantedthemoney; electrolites; finallythetruth; husband; killedmomanddad; king; murderer; potassium; prdisaster; presstitutes; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; thereisnomurder; tslist; wonttakepolygraph
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To: floriduh voter
Agreed.
1,951 posted on 10/28/2003 8:11:37 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: First_Salute
Interesting. All true.
1,952 posted on 10/28/2003 8:12:22 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: floriduh voter; mickie
... I dozed off altogether with radios and tv on...

LOL! Geez, I know what you mean, thank god my cell phone rang and it was my mother calling to make sure I was watching, of course it rang a hundred times which woke me up, I too was waiting for Pat and Bobby to come on, but had to wait through the wildfire coverage and the Peterson case...

It gets worse once we light the woodstove...out in a flash.

1,953 posted on 10/28/2003 8:14:46 PM PST by MVV
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To: EternalVigilance
Yes, it did have some interesting points ..

I'm not a dentist and I know they are just pictures but the ones that I could find .. she doesn't seem to show any signs of tooth decay in them

Actually, they look pretty good
1,954 posted on 10/28/2003 8:15:10 PM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Mo1
Yeah, her heart and her teeth seem pretty good, don't they..
1,955 posted on 10/28/2003 8:17:37 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: floriduh voter
Yes, Pat was on Greta's show tonight.
I am getting sick of seeing the Schindlers and their attorney get the short shift every night.
Why bother having them on if they can't get a dime's worth of time to talk!
1,956 posted on 10/28/2003 8:17:52 PM PST by mickie
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To: EternalVigilance
FWIW, some bulimics don't rely strictly on barfing to purge, or don't stick a finger down the throat at all - their favorite means of purging after an episode of gorging, is to abuse laxatives and diuretics.

Laxative abuse can cause life-threatening electrolite imbalance, even if only done occasionally.

Unusual erosion of tooth enamel is a sign of bulimia, but you can be bulimic and have good teeth.
1,957 posted on 10/28/2003 8:20:38 PM PST by SarahW
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To: Hildy; mickie; sweetliberty
I'm not going to judge a man who's wife is in a PVS from having a little happiness...

According to the family's attorney, Michael was screwing around on Terri only months after he realized she wasn't "coming home", he is suppose to be a catholic, they were married in a catholic church, we catholics believe that adultery is a SIN, he's committed more than adultery more than once with more than one women, and now has two daughters out of wedlock....

So please forgive us if we get upset and nasty with sluts that screw married men, and he is STILL married. If he wants to end the marriage than get a divorce and let Terri's family take her care and therapy on, something MS has failed miserably at doing. He's obviously moved on with his life, now let poor Terri do the same.

1,958 posted on 10/28/2003 8:21:52 PM PST by MVV
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To: GWB and GOP Man; EternalVigilance
Hi, there. Nothing new here in Tampa Bay. The Schindlers were on tv tonight from the RV talking about Michael's molestation of the truth on LKL last night.

They were sitting on the couch. If anything breaks, I'll be in touch but I was snoozing for awhile but got a call from a Vigiler looking for breaking news.

No Vigils in progress but all are ready to mobilize if we are needed at Hospice Woodside.

Okay to take a break. Terri looked really good again today. She seems to be getting better care now that the whole world is watching.

1,959 posted on 10/28/2003 8:23:42 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com & Contact terrisfight.org)
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To: MVV
Yes, I agree. Let Terri move on.
1,960 posted on 10/28/2003 8:23:46 PM PST by Hildy
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To: mickie
While I feel the same way, it does get the family exposure and keeps Terri's story and face out there on national t.v. Pat made some very good points, if anything, it will get to the many of people who are just getting interested in Terri's fight for life.
1,961 posted on 10/28/2003 8:24:20 PM PST by MVV
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To: Aliska
If a lingering death process isn't fully covered by insurance or medicare, whatever, the payment for extended treatment will come out of the person's estate. So if the person stands to gain from an inheritance, it would be difficult to remain completely neutral.

Your comment brings up the most important aspect of this case: Why is Michael Schiavo still guardian of Terry? It was understandable in the beginning, but when he started working towards his wife's death, well, it just doesn't make sense why a judge hasn't removed him as guardian, especially when the parents are begging for the job.

Until Michael Schiavo is removed as guardian this case will never end.

And it just doesn't make any sense to have him be the guardian when he stands to benefit from Terry's death, which he, by word and deed, is actively promoting.

There's something very very wrong with the actions of the judge(s) in this case.

1,962 posted on 10/28/2003 8:24:39 PM PST by Auntie Mame (Why not go out on a limb, isn't that where the fruit is?)
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To: floriduh voter
Terri looked really good again today. She seems to be getting better care now that the whole world is watching.

Excellent.

1,963 posted on 10/28/2003 8:25:26 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: SarahW
Good point.
1,964 posted on 10/28/2003 8:26:07 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Hildy
But do we agree to where she should move to? I want her back in therapy and getting the care she deserves, not cremated and scattered who knows where. Oh yes, catholics also don't believe in cremation, but MS does, he doesn't want an autopsy have you heard?
1,965 posted on 10/28/2003 8:26:24 PM PST by MVV
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To: All; sweetliberty; Mo1; floriduh voter; nickcarraway; Saundra Duffy; tutstar; FR_addict; cyn; ...
TONIGHT:

Greta van Susteren

October 28, 2003

GRETA: Last night, Michael Schiavo broke his silence to make his case for ending his wife’s life and made some shocking accusations against Terri’s family. He said about Terri’s father, “No, because he’s always wanted the money. He always wanted money out of this. He even testified in the first trial he was angry that he didn’t get any money.

Joining us to respond is Terri’s brother Bobby Schindler. He’s joined by the Schindler family attorney, Pat Anderson. Bobby, your brother-in-law says it’s about money. Basically, your father wants the money, that’s why he doesn’t want the feeding tube removed from your sister. What’s your response?

BOBBY SCHINDLER: Well, it’s totally false, Greta. Interestingly enough, back in 1992 Michael was suing a doctor in a malpractice trial, and he was asking up to 20 million dollars to take care of Terri for the rest of his life and the rest of her life. Shortly after the malpractice money came in, in January of 1993, it was just six months later when Michael attempted to withhold antibiotics. Terri would have died from an infection she had from a urinary tract infection. She would have died, and Michael would have inherited close to a million dollars at that time. So, this notion or this accusation that my parents were in it for money is just absolutely false and just wrong.

PAT ANDERSON: Greta, the parents want to keep Terri alive. They want to keep Terri alive. It’s obvious they’re not fighting to kill her. They’re fighting to keep her alive and get her better. It has nothing to do with money for them.

GRETA: So, what’s with this money…Pat, is there….I mean, I don’t even know where the money is. I mean, I know there was a malpractice lawsuit, a successful one, but a lot of money has gone into paying for this poor woman’s medical care. Is there any money to be fighting over?

ANDERSON: Oh, no, no, no, no. No, the money has not gone for that purpose. The money’s gone into lawyer’s pockets. George Felos has received $357,000 of Terri’s money. Debbie Bushnell has received about another $90,000. All told, way more than half of the money that that jury awarded for Terri’s care has been spent on attorney’s fees and costs.

GRETA: But is there any left to fight about? How about that? Pat, that’s really my question.

ANDERSON: No. No.

GRETA: All right. Bobby, how would you describe your sister’s marriage up until the day that she went into the hospital? What was her marriage like with her husband?

SCHINDLER: Well, it was deteriorating, Greta. I mean, Terri and I had conversations prior to her collapsing that evening when she was coming to me seeking a divorce from Michael. At the time I was only in my early 20’s, and other than just listening to her, I really didn’t have much to offer as far as how to go about getting a divorce. She was extremely unhappy.

GRETA: Pat, what Michael said last night is that Terri was bulimic, and that when you constantly throw up you lose a lot of potassium, and the suggestion was that what put her into cardiac arrest was a very low potassium. True or false, and whether or not she was bulimic and this may have created a potassium deficiency?

ANDERSON: Well, the doctors I’ve consulted, and maybe Dr. Biden can shed some light on this, is that her potassium was below normal, but her blood glucose was quite elevated, so there is some speculation in the doctors I’ve consulted is that the paramedics were running a glucose solution on her before she got to the hospital, which altered her blood chemistry to that extent. The bulimia is just a theory.

GRETA: All right, and we’ll still keep digging into that. Bobby, do you ever talk to your brother-in-law? You ever have any conversations with him in the last six months or so?

SCHINDLER: No, not in the last six months. The last time I had contact with Michael is just prior to the original trial in January of 2000, and I asked him if he’d like to talk about the upcoming trial, and at the time he told me that any conversations that we would have would be through his attorney.

GRETA: And your parents, have they…I mean, has it ever been any sort of effort for all of you to sit in the room? I mean, obviously this would become a very public and disturbing problem. Any chance that even all of you sit down and somehow work this out in Terri’s best interests? Bobby?

SCHINDLER: I would love…that would be wonderful if we could do something to work this out and we can get guardianship back of Terri. All we want to do is take her home and take care of her. We just want Michael to take care of his family, and we want to take care of Terri.

ANDERSON: You know, he has an infant daughter, and he needs to concentrate on it.

GRETA: All right, Pat, Bobby. Thank you both very much.
1,966 posted on 10/28/2003 8:26:51 PM PST by Gelato
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To: sweetliberty
I don't consider a woman who's been with the same man for 7 years "promiscuous." But we're not going to agree because we don't agree on the basic principle of the whole thing.
1,967 posted on 10/28/2003 8:28:16 PM PST by Hildy
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To: mickie
Well, now Terri's fighting for air time with major fires on the West Coast. Where will the next shoe drop? The Schindlers are doing a solid job and their attorney is as well. Per Atty Anderson, 500K people on the internet are praying for and supporting Terri. That's only what they can confirm from terrisfight.org.
1,968 posted on 10/28/2003 8:29:05 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com... http:www.conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: Auntie Mame
Until Michael Schiavo is removed as guardian this case will never end.

LKL did ask him if he would give up guardianship of Terri and he said he would absolutely not, as it meant giving her back to Mr. Schindler and we all know what pack of lies he started spewing about "her limbs being cut off..."

1,969 posted on 10/28/2003 8:29:17 PM PST by MVV
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To: mickie
Well, now Terri's fighting for air time with major fires on the West Coast. Where will the next shoe drop? The Schindlers are doing a solid job and their attorney is as well. Per Atty Anderson, 500K people on the internet are praying for and supporting Terri. That's only what they can confirm from terrisfight.org.

Fixed my tag line. Conservative-Spirit.org needs some hits by freepers. Thanks in advance.

1,970 posted on 10/28/2003 8:30:44 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: floriduh voter
I was on hold for Glenn Beck this morning when Glenn was interviewing Pat, but time ran out and I didn't get on. I was going to mention Free Republic and all our awesome threads...also was going to tell GB that Steven Schiavo is going to be on the Michael Smerconish show tomorrow morning, his show is on 1210 am in Philadelphia, don't know who else carries Mike's show, but it should be a good one. GB's engineer already knew about the brother coming on to do an interview.
1,971 posted on 10/28/2003 8:33:32 PM PST by MVV
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To: SarahW
FWIW, some bulimics don't rely strictly on barfing to purge, or don't stick a finger down the throat at all - their favorite means of purging after an episode of gorging, is to abuse laxatives and diuretics,

That is true

It would be nice if MS would release all of her medical records so that many of these question could be answered

1,972 posted on 10/28/2003 8:34:17 PM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: GWB and GOP Man
There's more to love with the Bush clan. If this becomes a Federal matter, more love incoming.

Have a nice day tomorrow. I'm still lo-cool.

1,973 posted on 10/28/2003 8:34:43 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: EternalVigilance
IF she had an "arrest" the question then becomes "what caused the arrest" and yes potassium can do that but most likely it was the TRAUMA TO HER HEAD!!!

She did not have a cardiac arrest. If a cardiac arrest were responsible for the deprivation of oxygen to her brain, then her heart also would have suffered significant damage. Since it has been proven that she didn't even suffer a heart attack, she definitely didn't have a cardiac arrest.

The question then becomes what caused her oxygen deprivation to her brain?

The only logical answer that has ANY evidence to back it up is strangulation. I have very little doubt that Michael Schiavo strangled Terri that night.

1,974 posted on 10/28/2003 8:36:00 PM PST by SwordofTruth
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To: sweetliberty
So you're starting a Terri Daily Dose Update Thread? That will help sort out research and rants from breaking news and Terri's condition which per today, "She's looking good."
1,975 posted on 10/28/2003 8:36:41 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: sweetliberty
I am not a cat person, but if they were my wife's cats and she was in that condition, I'd want to keep them just because they were hers.
1,976 posted on 10/28/2003 8:42:39 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: EternalVigilance
I find it difficult to believe her initial condition was created by a heart attack and there has been no tendency for one since then. A heart attack als leave certain distortions in the QRST axes in heartbeats which are quite measurable. Don't ask me to explain it. The best description I know of is in Guytone's Textbook of Medical Physiology.
1,977 posted on 10/28/2003 8:43:44 PM PST by RLK
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To: floriduh voter
"She's looking good."

Terri has a will to live.....no doubt about that!
After 6 days of starving her, she bounces right back.

You go Girl!

1,978 posted on 10/28/2003 8:44:53 PM PST by mickie
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To: Auntie Mame
He stands to benefit.

This is a major factor in the dispute, and he has tried to remove it by saying the money's gone, there's no insurance, etc. But even assuming that is true (which we don't), Michael Schiavo would face a serious financial burden if Terri survives. I think that is part of his motivation.

1,979 posted on 10/28/2003 8:47:03 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: First_Salute
That is a very possible scenario you just described.

Except I don't think it was an "accident"; I think Michael knew exactly what he was doing. He is too evil for this to have been an accident.

1,980 posted on 10/28/2003 8:48:13 PM PST by SwordofTruth
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To: JustPiper
Did you find out where you can e-mail yet? If not I can look it up on my comments as someone provided me a link.

Sorry I have been so busy today and did not get back with you!

MCD
1,981 posted on 10/28/2003 8:48:26 PM PST by MSCASEY
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To: floriduh voter
"So you're starting a Terri Daily Dose Update Thread"

I'm working on it now, but I'm doing it in a hurry and having to work on the formatting and I have to leave to go back to work in 3 hours. It's just that I wanted to get links to a lot of the the past threads on the initial one. My eyes are crossing! Hopefully it won't be too much longer. I will ping the list as soon as it's up and everyone else who has one can do so as well.

1,982 posted on 10/28/2003 8:50:28 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: EternalVigilance
Thanks, EV! Very interesting info, and when coupled with Dr. Baden's opinion on Greta's show last Thursday, makes me very suspicious of Michael. Head trauma? Michael is a large man.

You've probably already heard this. One of Terri's close friends is on record as talking to Terri the day before her "accident". From what Terri told her friend, Michael was very upset with her for spending too much. The friend even offered to come stay with Terri, but Terri told her friend that she would just pretend to be asleep when Michael came home that night.
1,983 posted on 10/28/2003 8:53:30 PM PST by auboy (Liberals believe in free speech… theirs not yours.)
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To: Mo1; nickcarraway; Canticle_of_Deborah; MarMema; kimmie7; floriduh voter; JulieRNR21; NautiNurse
http://mfile.akamai.com/6713/wma/glennbeck.download.akamai.com/6713/preview/10-16-02/steveschiavo.asx


Glenn Beck talking to Steve Schiavo, brother of MS

Glenn: Do we, as americans, starve handicapped people to death?

Steve Schaivo: Yes, if the court calls for it.

Chilling.......
1,984 posted on 10/28/2003 8:53:30 PM PST by wisconsinconservative ("...then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak out for me.")
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To: Gelato
Thanks for that wonderful transcript, my friend.
1,985 posted on 10/28/2003 8:53:42 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: wisconsinconservative
Good Lord .. he said that?
1,986 posted on 10/28/2003 8:54:23 PM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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Heavenly Father, we return to give You thanks that You continue to work in the affairs of men on behalf of this mother's child. Thank You that Terri is known from the smallest home in Florida to the grandest home in the nation, the White House. Let no one mistake this fact, Father, for You have brought into national view a planned murder of an innocent woman .. let the outrage of the people descend like a mighty river upon the State of Florida, sweeping away all the corrupt, vile, and evil doings that would label this horrendous act as "mercy."

Almighty God, we see that money and prestige can buy many things ... we also know, Father, that You use the weakest and the least to bring to foolishness those who would be wise. We remember Gideon ... mightily used by You with so very little. We remember David ... mightily used by You with so very little. May it be so with dear Terri, Lord ... use a legal team of ordinary folk, use volunteers of ordinary means, use time and talents of those ordinary citizens whose only aim is to free this defenseless woman from the pit of hell and return her to the love of one ordinary family.

Protect her where she is, O God, for there are those who would seek to end her life, no matter the cost. Be for her the Heavenly Guardian .. remove from her presence the earthly guardian, for he is intent on taking her life. Raise up another who will act on her behalf .. let not the sham of judicial rule continue to stain the legal life of Florida. Father, again and again, as in Your word ... relief has been sought before the judge, but he would not render justice. Again and again, Terri's legal team has sought relief, to no avail. Be for them that Righteous Judge of the Bible, that the continuing plea for relief finally is met with justice. May it be so, Father .. for their cause is just.

Continue to confuse and confound the enemy .. may they appear to the public as ones who have interests other than that of this dear child ... may their words tumble forth in confusion ... may their very words convict them. If we were all to remain silent, Father, still let them be found guilty, for their words are testimony against them.

Lord, be for Terri the greatest song in her heart this night; be the refreshing air and sunlight and gentle breezes that she does not feel; may her memories of mom and dad and sister and brother bring a smile ... cause those who look upon her to know that she is extraordinarly precious to someone, somewhere ... as we all are. May she delight in the angelic host who encamp around her, for such is Your love.

We long for the day this dear one will be released from the evil that men do ... may our hearts be as Yours, dear Lord, that we might see her as You see all of us ... made in the image of God. To You be glory and honor and power, forever and ever, Amen ...

1,987 posted on 10/28/2003 9:00:44 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: pc93
4) Is it true that Terri's money has paid for attorneys to make her dead, instead of therapists to make her better? The answer is, unquestionably, yes. According to court records, George Felos, the dutiful "right to die" attorney who sat at Schiavo's side on King's show, has been paid over $350,000 from Terri's trust fund. Another of Schiavo's attorneys, Debra Bushnell, has received about $90,000. These two lawyers alone have received more than half of Terri's entire trust.

Might this be considered obtaining money under false pretenses? Could somebody research case law and see if there are any precedents for litigation awards that were diverted for another purpose after settlement and what the disposition was? There has to be something out there similar to this. It smacks of fraud to me.

1,988 posted on 10/28/2003 9:01:47 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Hildy
I can't believe this is you , Hildy. Adultery in my book is wrong. Worse, this case stinks so badly, and all on Michael's part, that I find it hard to believe that anyone would take his word for ANYTHING. Basically-even if you can believe that flashy dressed, gold bedecked, sneering man on LKL-why would ANY human being not want to give terri the benefit of the doubt, to err on the side of caution (WHEN A LIFE IS INVOLVED and the husband is so fantastically cruel) and investigate, fully, the charges of Michael's neglect?

Even you have to know that 10 years without therapy, no TV allowed (per Michael), no MOVEMENT from her room to the outdoors or even the lobby of the nursing home then the hospice (per michael), basic grooming denial and withholding of antibiotics (per michael), DESERVES AN INVESTIGATION EVEN IF THE PERSON WERE ON A BREATHING APPARATUS AND COMPLETELY PARALYZED.

TERRI has been paralyzed by her LIMBS degrading and her tissue sheering down, fingers and toes curling, BECAUSE Michael KEEPS her thusly. His great lack of compassion and love has had terri dying a death for 10 years.....a death of of hellish proprotions. And this man PUNISHES the people he loves her by not allowing them to visit her ANYTIME they want to...he sometimes tells them they cannot SEE her at ALL...

So they live in a TRAILER outside the hospice so that whan Michael finally gives them some oh so precious TIME with their daughter, they can make the most of it...every single second!

So Hildy....since michael has changed his mind from wanting her to have therapy, from wanting her to live out her life to wanting to kill her because he remembered years later that that was her wish....do you not think it WISE to investigate what the courts have ignored?

1,989 posted on 10/28/2003 9:02:37 PM PST by Republic
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To: wisconsinconservative
Thank you for that link and I don't give a crap if people call me nuts or not

I agree with Glen .. We do not starve starve handicapped people to death

1,990 posted on 10/28/2003 9:04:49 PM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Graymatter
Michael Schiavo would face a serious financial burden if Terri survives.

Yes, and he may have an inheritance from his parents' deaths. Even if he were to divorce Terry, a court would look at that and possibly order him to pay for her maintenance. My opinion is that is the real reason he wants out and sees her death as the only way out.

1,991 posted on 10/28/2003 9:06:54 PM PST by Aliska
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To: texasbluebell
Crier is supposed to be a Republican, but she may be liberal. I think she was a judge somewhere in TX before she got into the media.
1,992 posted on 10/28/2003 9:09:17 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: wisconsinconservative
Glenn Beck talking to Steve Schiavo, brother of MS

Glenn: Do we, as americans, starve handicapped people to death?

Steve Schaivo: Yes, if the court calls for it.

[you]-"Chilling......."

I'll say.

This snipet with the date of the transcript of this radio show should be sent to AARP and the Florida Assc of Disabled ASAP!

Judicial execution!

1,993 posted on 10/28/2003 9:11:18 PM PST by Republic
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To: Aliska
That didsey legally bling Judge Greer ruled it was OK to pay the attorney fees out of the trust fund.

Big audit needed here!

1,994 posted on 10/28/2003 9:11:21 PM PST by mickie
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To: Republic
Talking about Terri now on Michael Reagan. I won't be able to transcribe as I go. Will try to tape it.
1,995 posted on 10/28/2003 9:12:11 PM PST by Aliska
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To: EternalVigilance
Wow neat post EternalVigilance! Tell your friend to join us.!!
1,996 posted on 10/28/2003 9:13:16 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: Aliska
Maybe Terri has an inheritance from Michael's mother ...
1,997 posted on 10/28/2003 9:15:43 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Republic; All
MSNBC NOW!!!!!!!
1,998 posted on 10/28/2003 9:16:29 PM PST by Humidston (Two Words: TERM LIMITS)
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To: Mo1
msnbc segment on now 12:15am est
1,999 posted on 10/28/2003 9:16:50 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: Aliska
Does anyone know how a trust fund works? If invested properly, 1.2 million should have grown quite a bit over the years.
2,000 posted on 10/28/2003 9:20:22 PM PST by Beach_Babe
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