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Gay, lesbian couples can teach heterosexuals how to improve relationships: U of Wash
University of Washington ^
| October 20, 2003
| Joel Schwarz
Posted on 10/25/2003 2:03:02 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: xm177e2
The American Journal of Public Health has published a detailed study of battering victimization in the male homosexual community (December 2002, Vol. 92, No. 12). The probability-based sampling of "men who have sex with men" (MSM) focused on four geographical areas (San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York) and resulted in 2,881 completed telephone interviews.
Based on these responses, this first-of-its-kind study determined that the rate of battering victimization among gay men in the target group (men over 18 who had engaged in homosexual activity since age 14, or who identified as gay, homosexual, or bisexual) is "substantially higher than among heterosexual men" and also possibly higher than the rate for heterosexual women, according to the study.
http://www.narth.com/docs/domestic.html
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posted on
10/25/2003 2:53:23 PM PDT
by
narses
("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
To: nwrep
...the researchers explored the conflict interaction of homosexual and heterosexual couples using mathematical modeling techniques. That settles the that!
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posted on
10/25/2003 2:54:24 PM PDT
by
dasboot
(Celebrate UNITY!)
To: Mortimer Snavely
"Robert Levenson, a University of California, Berkeley ..."
They say the only two things of any noteworthiness to come out of Berkeley are Unix and LSD. Not coincidental, in my sarcasm-loaded opinion!
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posted on
10/25/2003 2:55:22 PM PDT
by
Babalu
("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
To: nwrep
Study funded by National Institute of Health which is funded by the taxpayer. We paid for this idiotic crock of sh*t!
To: Babalu
Yep. A bit too convenient.
The other thing that's odd is that Gottman in the past has really shied away from survey research. His reputation was made in marital research using experimental observation of functioning couples.
I'm afraid that this might be politically motivated.
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posted on
10/25/2003 2:58:53 PM PDT
by
xzins
(And now I will show you the most excellent way!)
To: nwrep
More likely to share a STD with their spouse..
The truth Is
God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit..can never ever "Bless" two sodomites
or Lesbians with anything other than he did a Sodom & Gomorahh...
His nature -His Values- nor His Will - has not, nor ever it will change...
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posted on
10/25/2003 3:11:53 PM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: xzins; nwrep
I think this illustrates that straight couples answer questionnaires candidly, and gay couples don't.
When something flies in the face of reason and logic, it's usually propaganda.
Gay couples live lives based on maladaption, deep-seated contrariness and aggressive resentment, all of which are the conflicted results of childhood sexual abuse.
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posted on
10/25/2003 3:23:46 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(There are very few shades of gray.)
To: nwrep
"Gay and lesbian couples are a lot more mature, more considerate in trying to improve a relationship and have a greater awareness of equality in a relationship than straight couples" What a load of crap.
To: Babalu
They say the only two things of any noteworthiness to come out of Berkeley are Unix and LSD. Perhaps oddly, many of the key original Unix guys at Berkeley were gay. Some of them are still "domestic partners" to my understanding. The percentage of gays involved in the early years of Unix development is wildly out of proportion to the general population. One can hypothesize endlessly as to why this was.
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posted on
10/25/2003 3:31:36 PM PDT
by
tortoise
(All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
To: nwrep
The National Institute of Mental Health funded the research. My taxdollars are subsidizing sodomy, I see. Ugh.
To: xzins; *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; pram; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; ...
As my good Freep'in friend EdReform says: Bump and ping. That's about all the time I have this weekend... Thanks for the ping, xzins.
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posted on
10/25/2003 3:40:22 PM PDT
by
scripter
(Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
To: nwrep
Gay and lesbian couples are a lot more mature, more considerate in trying to improve a relationship I haven't read all of the posts, so this may be repetitive, but give me a friggin' break!
I have known gay and lesbian people most of my life. In the pre-AIDs days, gay men were some of the most notoriously immature people I have ever met. I won't go into the sexual escapades, whoring, etc. that went on. From my viewpoint now, this hasn't changed that much - constantly changing partners, drug use and abuse, physical abuse run rampant. And God help you once you get older.
Regarding lesbians, I do think that they can have more longstanding and mature relationships due to the different sexual nature of women vs men, but I have known plenty that were as bad as the men.
There is nothing that I want to learn from gay or lesbian relationships in general. I do think that particular people can always teach us something, but to say that gays have better relationships is just not true.
I have gay people in my family. However, they are older now and matured when most gays were in the closet. I'm not saying whether this is right or wrong. It must be difficult to live that way. However, they seem to be much better balanced people than the young gays I've met. They are people, workers, family members first - their sexuality doesn't come into it.
Jeez, this is crap is going on at my school...
To: TommyDale
"Oh, please!"
It's funny, that was the exact thought running through my mind when I read the first couple of paragraphs of this article (I couldn't get much further!).
To: Dr. Eckleburg
Precisely why it's so odd that Gottman, the strongest advocate ever in the field of marital research for field observation research instead of survey research, has chosen in this study to desert his tried and insightful methodology and reverted to something that he himself has always somewhat questioned.
Survey research on these kinds of issues gives results that are all over the map. In the area of sexual experience outside the marriage bond for women, there've been studies that have demonstrated everything from a low of about 20% to a high of about 75% and everything in between. It's insane.
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posted on
10/25/2003 4:41:41 PM PDT
by
xzins
(And now I will show you the most excellent way!)
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To: GOPLUVSANAL; Dr. Eckleburg; scripter
Actually I'm a trained family educator and a marriage therapist in addition to being a pastor. MS, KSU mid-nineties. MDiv, ATS, early eighties.
It's a fascinating subject. The point is which is the group that really cares.....those who tell a drunk to keep on drinking, or those who point a drunk to a way to stop drinking? (Thought you might appreciate the alcohol illustration....:>)
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posted on
10/25/2003 5:11:08 PM PDT
by
xzins
(And now I will show you the most excellent way!)
To: radiohead
I have gay family members who I care about but disaggree with extremely. They are very immature. Fights stem from what the other one is wearing to what they do. It is like watching two catty high school girls that are in extreme competition of one another. Also the turn over rates are so high in these cases. I have been a happily married heterosexual for 12 yrs-- in that time I have watched the homosexual part of the family go through tons of different relationships-Close to 7 to 8 relationships.
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posted on
10/25/2003 5:16:03 PM PDT
by
jobedo
To: nwrep
What is it with these freaks that compels them to swathe themselves in other people's religious symbols?
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posted on
10/25/2003 5:18:42 PM PDT
by
Alouette
(Neocon Zionist Media Operative)
To: xzins
Precisely why it's so odd that Gottman, the strongest advocate ever in the field of marital research for field observation research instead of survey research, has chosen in this study to desert his tried and insightful methodology and reverted to something that he himself has always somewhat questioned. It is strange. I have a couple of his books. The one written about batterers was one of the best and most accurate books on the subject I have ever read.
To: nwrep
No comment.
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posted on
10/25/2003 6:23:56 PM PDT
by
Valin
(A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject)
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