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My experience with the San Bernardino Wildfire Today (pics)
Self ^ | 10/25/2003 | Self

Posted on 10/25/2003 9:42:06 PM PDT by EUPHORIC

What a week. Been breathing smoke since Tuesday with the Rancho Cucamonga Fire then today it gets worse! While watching FNC on my sat I noticed that it was getting darker and oranger outside. Looked out and to the east and it was obvious that now the mountains to the east were on fire! Grabbed my camera and jumped in the car and got in deeper then I wanted to!

Drove about 7 miles to where the smoke was coming from and found dozens packing their stuff into everything from cars to shopping carts and moving out FAST. Fire was moving south towards the houses you've heard of being destroyed today and I've got what are probably the last pics taken of those neighborhoods before they were overrun. The people in the pics are mostly now homeless. And WE almost got stuck behind the firelines!


We were about 1000 feet from the flames in the above pic and the homes beyond the treeline are now all gone as are some of the more distant ones in the pic.

In the following pic please note the people standing in the brush close to the fire with NO SAFE WAY OUT! We were listening to the helitanker pilots talking and from their viewpoint and in their own words those people were about to be "carbonized".


Just a few minutes after the above images were taken the Sheriff chased us out and ordered evacuations warning everyone that there were no firefighting resources in the area to help! I have no idea what happened to those nut cases standing there in the brush to get a better view of the action but I sure hope that pic is not the last taken of them.

Full sized versions of these and a whole bunch more are available for viewing on my server. I don't have time right now to organize them into a web page so the images are just in a directory where you will have to click on the image names to see them. The DSC000XXX.JPG files are the raw images from my camera and the ones with meaningful names are the better ones which have been processed and enhanced. The messed up night time pics are of a tounge of the Rancho Cucamonga fire that has intruded to within 2 miles of my home tonight. They did not come out very well at all. :(


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KEYWORDS: evacuations; fire; homesonfire; sanbernardino; wildfires
One thing to read about it - kinda scary to BE there.
1 posted on 10/25/2003 9:42:06 PM PDT by EUPHORIC
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To: EUPHORIC; Mo1; kayak
BTTT for later. Thanks for the thread.
2 posted on 10/25/2003 9:44:05 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Logan's Home! Logan's Home! Logan's Home! Logan's Home! Logan's Home!)
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To: EUPHORIC
I am running high speed cable, and your pics are taking forever to load. Is it your host or the size of the pics?

Glad you are ok btw.

3 posted on 10/25/2003 9:44:17 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: EUPHORIC
My brother in-law is a Fire Chief in that area so we're all praying him and his FFs stay safe.
4 posted on 10/25/2003 9:51:13 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig ("I've got a feeling you've got a heart like mine. Let's stomp some rat ba!!$, you can let it shine.")
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To: dogbyte12
I am running high speed cable, and your pics are taking forever to load. Is it your host or the size of the pics?

Glad you are ok btw.

Link is slow here too right now. Just started doing that about 40 minutes ago. Both inbound and outbound are slow. Images are large but not THAT large!

We are happy to be ok too! But if this SMOKE keeps up we may have to go further south to a Motel or something!

ALSO: I forgot to mention that fire just north of us is a stones throw from a FIREWORKS FACTORY AND STORAGE DEPOT. The big stuff is stored in old WWII underground bunkers but there are hundreds of tons of smaller stuff store in big wooden warehouses that probably should have been replaces decades ago.

5 posted on 10/25/2003 9:55:55 PM PDT by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: EUPHORIC
Yawn.

California burns every year.

The burn season is interupted only by the rain induced, human habitat slide into the ocean.

Then California burns again.

And yet they build again.

Go figure.

LVM

6 posted on 10/25/2003 10:09:40 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (You tell 'em I'm coming! And you tell 'em Hell is coming with me!!!)
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To: EUPHORIC
I'm so glad you're ok.

Thanks for the photos.
Amazing.

I'm watching Fox11LA right now.

Our home was evacuated before when a fire was coming towards us.
So scary.

God bless you.
7 posted on 10/25/2003 10:15:43 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: LasVegasMac
I wouldn't yawn too much on these fires.
If I understand the reports correctly, the majority of these fires (except for backfires of course) are suspected arson.
8 posted on 10/25/2003 10:17:27 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: LasVegasMac
Yawn.

California burns every year.

Yep. We have mountains. We have psychotic greenies who prevent us from properly culling the trash out of our fire prone areas. We have fires. Usually set deliberately by human cockroaches no more intelligent then the green variety of cockroach which only serves to increase the pleasure of the pyro variety of cockroach.

I hope a nice big fat pregnant-with-baby-maggots BLOWFLY buzzes into that yawning mouth of yours Mr. Las Vergas Cockroach.

9 posted on 10/25/2003 10:23:22 PM PDT by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: EUPHORIC
ALSO: I forgot to mention that fire just north of us is a stones throw from a FIREWORKS FACTORY AND STORAGE DEPOT. The big stuff is stored in old WWII underground bunkers but there are hundreds of tons of smaller stuff store in big wooden warehouses that probably should have been replaces decades ago.

Do tell; did you buy this property of your own free will, or did someone hold a gun to your head and make you sign the paperwork???

Just curious.

To put things in perspective - I live in Las Vegas. In a few short years my claim to fame will be that I live within 90 miles of the world's biggest nuclear dump - Yuca Puke Mountain.

But I moved here in 1983. No such plans at the time - at least that the public knew about.

You, however, knew that California burns each and every year. Then the rain comes and everything slides down the hill. At least I knew that. It's been on network TV since I can remember. Over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...................

ALSO: I forgot to mention that fire just north of us is a stones throw from a FIREWORKS FACTORY AND STORAGE DEPOT. The big stuff is stored in old WWII underground bunkers but there are hundreds of tons of smaller stuff store in big wooden warehouses that probably should have been replaces decades ago.

Now, tell me again, why did you buy that property? You knew about the boom boom stuff??

Still waiting for the "Big One"

LVM

10 posted on 10/25/2003 10:27:54 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (You tell 'em I'm coming! And you tell 'em Hell is coming with me!!!)
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To: EUPHORIC
Been watching the Fire up Hermosa Ave all day. Really scary.

It seems to me that the local authorities have handled the fire (keeping it away from houses) and the related troubles quite well. It gives me hope if there is ever a terrorist attack.

11 posted on 10/25/2003 10:30:16 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (No Taxation Without Respiration - Repeal Death Taxes!)
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To: LasVegasMac
Then California burns again

When does the shaking start?

12 posted on 10/25/2003 10:32:00 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (No Taxation Without Respiration - Repeal Death Taxes!)
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To: Cindy
As far as what the fires are doing, does not matter what or who started it.

Tis the season - Santa Anna winds, etc.

Started by man or nature is not the issue now, is it?

LVM

13 posted on 10/25/2003 10:32:48 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (You tell 'em I'm coming! And you tell 'em Hell is coming with me!!!)
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To: EUPHORIC
Have twisted together a quick index page to the better of the pics: HERE

Getting much smokier here near Rialto. Looks like fog but smells like a fireplace!

God Help our mountains. Looks like fire stretches from West of the I15 to East of the 330. Nasty.

14 posted on 10/25/2003 10:35:46 PM PDT by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: LasVegasMac
Now, tell me again, why did you buy that property? You knew about the boom boom stuff??

Still waiting for the "Big One"

Not worried about the "boom boom stuff" here. I'd rather enjoy the show just as I enjoy the show everytime they test their wares. :)

I see what is going on here. Another finger waggling liberal piece of infested parrot droppings who is jealous because he has to do "special service" in the backrooms of casinos rather then enjoy Southern Cal as we do. Fires or no.

Big NEENER and don't forget to wipe your chin next time. :)

Yucca Mountain? What is the problem there beyond the typical liberal paranoia of things they do not understand. Yucca is the best place for that stuff although from your siclky performance I'd personally vote for it to be stored under your BED.

Go eat your tofu and watch PBS and continue hallucinating yourself into grandeur.

15 posted on 10/25/2003 10:44:51 PM PDT by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: EUPHORIC
I hope a nice big fat pregnant-with-baby-maggots BLOWFLY buzzes into that yawning mouth of yours Mr. Las Vergas Cockroach.

Sorry, no BLOWFLY's up here.

Or Fruit fly's, for that matter.

Hey, pal - you chose to live there, not me. Don't get bent outta shape cuz I'm not in "shock and awe" about your pic's and post. Happens every year.

We have psychotic greenies who prevent us from properly culling the trash out of our fire prone areas. We have fires. Usually set deliberately by human cockroaches no more intelligent then the green variety of cockroach which only serves to increase the pleasure of the pyro variety of cockroach.

And yet you still bought property there - ??????

Hey, I got this property in southern California - great view - located close to schools, churches, malls, everything - the ultimate dream home!!!

Never mind that little gully over there, just the San Andreas fault - it has not went off for years. no big thing.

Interested?

LVM

16 posted on 10/25/2003 10:47:04 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (You tell 'em I'm coming! And you tell 'em Hell is coming with me!!!)
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To: LasVegasMac
Your empathy is overwhelming.
18 posted on 10/25/2003 11:07:34 PM PDT by GOPrincess
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To: GOPrincess
I am as caring as they come.

I just don't have much when it comes to folks that set themselves up for situations like this.

If you are more than 10 years old, you would know that the Mississippi River floods - in a big way.

Would you buy property on the river's flood plain?

Keep in mind that I live in a gambling town, ok?

LVM

19 posted on 10/25/2003 11:13:23 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (You tell 'em I'm coming! And you tell 'em Hell is coming with me!!!)
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To: LasVegasMac
Sorry, no BLOWFLY's up here.

Just the human variety.

Or Fruit fly's, for that matter.

Oh.... PLENTY of those.. Also of the human variety.

Hey, pal - you chose to live there, not me. Don't get bent outta shape cuz I'm not in "shock and awe" about your pic's and post. Happens every year.

"Bent outta shape?" Me? I just think you are a self centered dink. I'm laughing at yet another seismophobe that scuttled away out of the frying pan to the oven more then anything else. You apparently know little of the geologic history of your "safe haven" there.

And yet you still bought property there - ??????

Sure! Why not! I am not paranoid about quakes like you are and afraid of fires. Please note that I intentionally drove into the danger zone to get my pics rather then scuttle away to the deep desert to avoid them. Bet you were all bent out of shape over the Y2K non-event too!

Hey, I got this property in southern California - great view - located close to schools, churches, malls, everything - the ultimate dream home!!!

Never mind that little gully over there, just the San Andreas fault - it has not went off for years. no big thing.

Interested?

Sure! I'd love it!!! Where is it?!?! I'll take it as long as it is not located on bedrock AT the fault zone where surface acceleration can exceed 120G and top 2.7 Mach...

A half mile or more away on alluvium or broken strata and I'll grab it from ya!

BTW: I've studied the San Andreas from its northern dive into the Pacific all the way to the Mexican border. In fact those fires today depicted in the pics you see show properties that are RIGHT ON TOP the SAF. And THAT is what the "gully" is. :)

I guess you thought that tounge in your cheek was applicable to anyone but you? Typical liberal. Always think they know everything and have all the answers when everyone else is way ahead of them.

Here is another pic for ya sweets:


20 posted on 10/25/2003 11:21:41 PM PDT by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: EUPHORIC
Well, I'm impressed by your photography and prayerful for your situation, and I hope that this other so-called FReeper wakes up with shingles tomorrow. What a spiteful miserable excuse for a HINO.

I've been in hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, and blizzards, but thank God never a fire. It doesn't matter where you go. There's always some way for Mother Nature to squish you like a bug if she's so minded.
21 posted on 10/25/2003 11:23:11 PM PDT by ChemistCat (Hang in there, Terri. Absorb. Take in. Live. Heal.)
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To: LasVegasMac
I have good pals in San Clemente.

They say they see the red sky.

I said to to them, leave, come to Western Pennsylvania.

We have clear skies and an array of stars.

They told me they love California.

They say they will stick it out.

We will have an annual get together in Myrtle Beach in March.

Six parents and nine children.

I can't wait.

22 posted on 10/25/2003 11:23:18 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: LasVegasMac
As far as what the fires are doing, does not matter what or who started it.

Tis the season - Santa Anna winds, etc.

Started by man or nature is not the issue now, is it?

Santa Ana Winds FYI...

Only a drug scrambled mind left wing could concoct nonsensical babble like that. "It does not matter because it is the season"...?

GIVE ME A BREAK. Do you even believe that drivel yourself?

Guess I need to keep repeating the mantra "considerthesourceconsiderthesourceconsiderthesourceconsiderthesourceconsiderthesource"...

Outrageous.

23 posted on 10/25/2003 11:31:17 PM PDT by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: EUPHORIC
Only a drug scrambled mind left wing

OOPS. Make that "Only a drug scrambled left wing mind"... :)

24 posted on 10/25/2003 11:37:07 PM PDT by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: LasVegasMac
LasVegasMac,Gosh you are so negative,He likes where he lives,bet you have drive by shotings.Where would you like to live.
25 posted on 10/25/2003 11:45:22 PM PDT by fatima (Karen,our Granddaughter-4th ID prayers,Baghdad.John Paul II,We love you,Viva Maria.)
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To: EUPHORIC
After further review of some of your "note worthy" replies....

I hope a nice big fat pregnant-with-baby-maggots BLOWFLY buzzes into that yawning mouth of yours Mr. Las Vergas Cockroach.

and....

Big NEENER and don't forget to wipe your chin next time. :)

and....

Go eat your tofu and watch PBS and continue hallucinating yourself into grandeur

and....

I just think you are a self centered dink. I'm laughing at yet another seismophobe that scuttled away out of the frying pan to the oven more then anything else. You apparently know little of the geologic history of your "safe haven" there.

I'm wasting time here. I did not scuttle anywhere - I've been here for 20 years and, yes, I fully realize and understand the geologic area I am in.

Pay attention to those two words I used - "realize" and "understand".

You are the one that bought property in the "flame on" area, not me.

And now, you post pic's (extremely slow loading, by the way) and print words that try to excite others by the dramatics of it all.

I'd bet that, given the opportunity, you would buy a ticket to sail on the Titanic. Knowing the history.

Oh. Ah. California is on fire again. By Jan / Feb we will be seeing rain pictures of ninnys, not unlike you, that bought houses on hill sides and are now sliding down the slope into the gully at the bottom / ocean, etc.

And bitching about it.

Get a clue. Better yet, get a ticket for the clue bus.

Again, big YAWN.

You need to get beyond that Kalifungus mentality of yours and recognize that it was YOU that made the choice to live there.

No amount of bitching at me / flaming me can change that, can it?

Good luck.

LVM

26 posted on 10/25/2003 11:53:22 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (You tell 'em I'm coming! And you tell 'em Hell is coming with me!!!)
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To: fatima
LasVegasMac,Gosh you are so negative,He likes where he lives,bet you have drive by shotings.Where would you like to live.

No, I'm really not that negative at all.

No, we don't have drive by "shootings" in this area.

My point is this - why, knowingly, put yourself in a bad situation to begin with?

If I lived in Nebraska / Iowa and got nailed by a huge earth quake, I'd be surprised. So would a lot of other folks.

If I bought property, next to the Missippi River, and got flooded out - I would not be surprised. Neither would anyone else.

This individual decided to locate in a known fire prone area. Numerous fires over the years. Year after year. Yes, the fact that this one is suspected arson flat out sucks. But that does not take away from the facts that 1) this area burns - repeatedly. Over and over and over, 2) bad time - Santa Ana winds.

It is like living on the east coast - Virgina - South / North Carolina - Florida. You know the risk of a hurricane.

Maybe I presume too much. I just figure that common sense would prevail.

LVM

27 posted on 10/26/2003 12:12:40 AM PDT by LasVegasMac (You tell 'em I'm coming! And you tell 'em Hell is coming with me!!!)
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To: LasVegasMac
re those winds --- they're bad no matter how the fire starts.
28 posted on 10/26/2003 12:15:12 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: LasVegasMac
LasVegasMac,Thanks for your answer,You sound like my husband.
29 posted on 10/26/2003 12:19:50 AM PDT by fatima (Karen,our Granddaughter-4th ID prayers,Baghdad.John Paul II,We love you,Viva Maria.)
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To: LasVegasMac
Are you this hard on people who live where there are hurricanes, or those in tornado areas?
30 posted on 10/26/2003 12:26:58 AM PDT by halfdome
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To: EUPHORIC
Dontcha love someone in that garden spot Las Vegas dumping on California? Too funny.
31 posted on 10/26/2003 12:28:27 AM PDT by halfdome
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To: EUPHORIC; doug from upland; tame
Thanks for the Pics.
I been watching the smoke all day. My dad was evacuated From the Highland area of San Bernardino He's spending thje night here and my Nephew and his family left Devore to spend the night in Hesperia with my brother.
If this fire reaches Arrowhead we are going to have a real problem.
I'll talk more tomorrow. Here's a good website to follow the fire (s)
http://www.calmast.org/mast/public/default.htm
32 posted on 10/26/2003 12:30:01 AM PDT by jokar (Beware the White European Male Christian theological complex !!)
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To: LasVegasMac
No, we don't have drive by "shootings" in this area.

Bull shit. You not only have people shooting each other, you have riots too. LOL, weak little riots anyway, in the neighborhoods just north of that giant tourist trap in the desert. Vegas is one big tacky amusement park.....

Like you, it's a little to loud for me.

33 posted on 10/26/2003 12:40:25 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: fatima
Is that good or bad??

LVM

34 posted on 10/26/2003 12:43:51 AM PDT by LasVegasMac (You tell 'em I'm coming! And you tell 'em Hell is coming with me!!!)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Bull shit. You not only have people shooting each other, you have riots too. LOL, weak little riots anyway, in the neighborhoods just north of that giant tourist trap in the desert. Vegas is one big tacky amusement park..... Like you, it's a little to loud for me.

Yo, skippy - don't let your aligator mouth overload your sized pea brain.

Oh, never mind. I see you have already done that.

LVM

35 posted on 10/26/2003 12:52:49 AM PDT by LasVegasMac (You tell 'em I'm coming! And you tell 'em Hell is coming with me!!!)
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To: halfdome
Are you this hard on people who live where there are hurricanes, or those in tornado areas?

Kind of. Did you read all my posts - like the one that I mentioned living on the east coast?

I used to live in tornado country. Don't plan on going back.

I'm not hard on anyone. I just took exception that 1) California burns every year. Watch the news. 2) This person made a big deal out of "all of a sudden" finding out that they were located close to a munitions dump of some sort.

You can plot where the fire prone areas are, from history. They have done that, they do that. Just like flood prone areas.

Why would anyone move into an area like that?

Must have that "gambling" instinct.

The bitch when it bites 'em.

LVM

36 posted on 10/26/2003 1:04:49 AM PDT by LasVegasMac (You tell 'em I'm coming! And you tell 'em Hell is coming with me!!!)
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To: LasVegasMac
Kinda fun to watch another liberal doing the duck and tumble and avoid. :)

We've got your number.

Don't forget to wipe that chinny chin chin sweetie!

For the record you are the tenth idiot I know that ran to Vegas to hide from the quakes.

Guess you runners like explosive Volcanoes more then quakes eh? Problem is you've NOT escaped the quakes...

You are in the middle of a zone that gets HAMMERED quite regularly. Time to bolt to the East Coast!!!! Whups! They get the big ones TOO! Gahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!

Lets see... You want no earthquakes? Mmmm.. Try dead central California a little north and west of the center of the state on top of the Batholith. You will get a few jiggles from time to time but that is about the most local quake free zone in the USA.

Vegas? Hehehe... You are NOT safe. Look HERE see all those brown wiggly lines in Nevada? Those are active earthquake generating fault lines. Compare that to California on the same map.

Ready to move back now arrogant one?

37 posted on 10/26/2003 1:18:56 AM PDT by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: LasVegasMac
Yo, skippy

What's this, vegas ghetto talk?....

38 posted on 10/26/2003 1:32:35 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: EUPHORIC
Yeah, and vegas just flash flooded out just two months ago...Cars bobbing up and down the amusement park strip....
39 posted on 10/26/2003 1:35:14 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: LasVegasMac
There's few things more annoying than a person who insists everyone else be afraid of the same things they are.
40 posted on 10/26/2003 1:41:50 AM PDT by MattAMiller
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To: LasVegasMac
I'm not hard on anyone. I just took exception that 1) California burns every year. Watch the news. 2) This person made a big deal out of "all of a sudden" finding out that they were located close to a munitions dump of some sort.

HUH? How did I make a "big deal" out of anything? I just posted my experience and your drugs did the rest. And your doped up rant began BEFORE I mentioned the local Fireworks Factory. (not a "munitions dump") - typical left wing exaggeration for effect. Dodging of the facts and everything.

You can plot where the fire prone areas are, from history. They have done that, they do that. Just like flood prone areas.

Why would anyone move into an area like that?

Because "areas like that" are mostly free from liberal donkeys like you and VERY pleasant to live in.

Must have that "gambling" instinct.

More PROJECTION from you. Tsk! Tsk!

The bitch when it bites 'em.

So I guess you are a "rappa" or a wannabe "rappa"?

Nothing more need be said.

41 posted on 10/26/2003 1:30:00 AM PST by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: EUPHORIC
I love Las Vegas! It will suck when they run out of water though... It will happen.
42 posted on 10/26/2003 7:55:42 AM PST by abner (In search of a witty tag line...)
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To: EUPHORIC
You seem to be fixated on a couple of things here...

Kinda fun to watch another liberal doing the duck and tumble and avoid. :)

and ...

Don't forget to wipe that chinny chin chin sweetie!

California traits, no doubt.

For the record you are the tenth idiot I know that ran to Vegas to hide from the quakes.

I told ya before to get a ticket for the clue bus - how did you come up with that one? If you count getting stationed here with the Air Force as "running", then I guess I ran here.

Yep, this is an active area. We almost always feel the big ones coming out of your area!

Anyway, back to the fires.

Good luck.

LVM

43 posted on 10/26/2003 8:15:30 AM PST by LasVegasMac (You tell 'em I'm coming! And you tell 'em Hell is coming with me!!!)
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To: LasVegasMac
I told ya before to get a ticket for the clue bus

What's this, 60s lingo? The clue bus?

BWAAAAHAHAHA.....

44 posted on 10/26/2003 8:35:40 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf ( failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Brad's Gramma
I'm in San Diego - we have a fire east of us and this morning we are covered in ash. It's so bad, we cannot go outside. You can, but the stuff gets all over you so they are telling people to stay inside. I'm up above Mission Valley, near Qualcom Stadium. We have a think dark cloud hanging over the valley. To the Northeast of us the sky is almost black (not a good sign).

We always get some smoke from fires in the LA area, because of the winds. However, when you add SD County fires, it's not a good combination.

The fires are at the edge of El Cajon - where my nephew and his wife and new baby live - haven't heard from them yet. They may be at church. [UPDATE] Nephew's wife just called. They are at home and safe. They have been told to be ready to leave so they are packing their car - just in case.

The other part of the fire is near Miramar Marine Corp Base and another Nephew lives a stone's throw from there. They are probably at church, but they have closed Hwy 15 N so they may not be able to get home.

Also .. the area just northeast of the base is an industrial area - high tech stuff. That will be devastating to this area. Nokia has a BIG, BIG building complex near there.
45 posted on 10/26/2003 9:27:09 AM PST by CyberAnt
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Self proclaimed lingo expert?

Nice to know that your are the expert.

Wake up now.

Lift rock.

Crawl back into your space.

LVM

46 posted on 10/26/2003 5:55:23 PM PST by LasVegasMac (You tell 'em I'm coming! And you tell 'em Hell is coming with me!!!)
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To: LasVegasMac
Yo, get a ticket for the clue bus......

Yo man, LOL!

47 posted on 10/26/2003 6:16:26 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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