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Jessica Lynch Sticks Up for Former Iraqi POW Pal
ABC 7 ^
| October 26, 2003
| Associated Press
Posted on 10/26/2003 3:36:15 PM PST by yonif
El Paso-AP, October 26, 2003)- The father of former prisoner of war Shoshana Johnson on Friday accused the Army of shortchanging his daughter of disability benefits after she was offered a smaller paycheck than fellow POW Jessica Lynch.
"She is not getting what she deserves," Claude Johnson said.
Family members confirmed that Lynch, a private first class who was snatched from her Iraqi captors on April 1 in a rescue by Special Forces, is receiving an 80 percent disability. Johnson, a specialist who was released on April 13 with four other American POWs, has been offered 30 percent, Claude Johnson said.
The Rev. Jesse Jackson, who consulted the Johnson family, said race was playing a part in Army's decision. Lynch is white; Johnson is black.
"There's a long history of blacks not receiving fair and adequate recognition in the military," said Jackson. "The first black female POW who survived is about to be discharged and suffers the trauma, the emotional injury and has a 3-year-old daughter to raise. She deserves more."
Army spokesman Maj. Steve Stover said Shoshana Johnson's payment can be appealed.
Stover said the two cases are different and race is not an issue.
Stover disputed reports that Lynch had been medically discharged this summer, even though she has been allowed to reach a $1 million book deal.
He said Lynch is on the Temporary Disability Retired List and has not technically been discharged. She will be reevaluated periodically and if recovered sufficiently, she could go back on active duty or request an official discharge.
Shoshana Johnson will be discharged soon.
"The disability compensation is based on each individual soldier's condition," Stover said.
Military officials said Lynch was hurt after her Humvee utility vehicle was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade and crashed into another vehicle. She suffered multiple broken bones and other injuries and it was four months before she could walk again.
Shoshana Johnson was shot in both ankles and was held by Iraqi captors for 22 days. She still periodically uses a walking cast, has a hard time staying on her feet for any period of time and is not sleeping well, her father said.
She was shown in an Iraqi video fearfully watching her captors as they peppered her and the other POWs with questions.
The disability and discharge status of the other former POWs was not immediately known.
Claude Johnson said Lynch and his daughter, who were both stationed at Fort Bliss near El Paso, have become friends.
In a statement released Friday by her attorney, Lynch said she was "disappointed for Shoshana."
"When she visited me in West Virginia last month, we discussed the extent of our injuries and the long road back to health, including a lifetime commitment to physical therapy and rehabilitation," Lynch said. "I support her efforts 100 percent and wish her a continued ... recovery."
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; jessica; jessicalynch; lynch; pow; shoshanajohnson
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posted on
10/26/2003 3:36:15 PM PST
by
yonif
To: yonif
WOW! My dad lost an arm in WWII and received a rating of 10% disability - I wonder if that was racist - we are Italian after all.
2
posted on
10/26/2003 3:40:07 PM PST
by
roylene
To: yonif
These girls never shoulda been there in the first place
3
posted on
10/26/2003 3:40:48 PM PST
by
Norse
To: yonif
I hope no one is surprised that the race card has been played once again!
4
posted on
10/26/2003 3:43:39 PM PST
by
Arpege92
To: yonif
I do not believe any of our wounded veterans are getting the treatment they deserve. Oh, Private Lynch got treated well--but she is very much in the public eye.
It's a shame on us, and a poor reflection on how we value our defenders. They face in the field every day what few of us face, except--some of us did, if we could only remember:
Now how did the people who were injured or who lost loved ones HERE fare, financially, and medically? Any of them languishing in concrete barracks, still waiting to have their wounds treated and diagnosed?
Jesse Jackson ought to be taking up for ALL the military personnel who come back less than whole forever.
5
posted on
10/26/2003 3:44:30 PM PST
by
ChemistCat
(Hang in there, Terri. Absorb. Take in. Live. Heal.)
To: yonif
From what I understand Johnson, while terrorized, was not injured to the degree that Lynch was. That is the only pertinent fact.
6
posted on
10/26/2003 3:46:54 PM PST
by
thegreatbeast
(Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
To: yonif
"She is not getting what she deserves," Claude Johnson said. She wanted a carreer in the Army and has at least one child. I think she should get a larger disability which can be re-evaluated at a later date.
I saw Shoshana of Leno and I like her as a person better than I do Lynch.
7
posted on
10/26/2003 3:47:52 PM PST
by
Mike Darancette
(No Taxation Without Respiration - Repeal Death Taxes!)
To: yonif
The last thing this unfortunate woman needs is Shakedown Jackson playing the race card. I don't know whether she has a legitimate grievance or not, but with Jackson involved that doesn't matter - his involvement alone is going to polarize everyone involved (and everyone watching) based on their feelings towards him, and what did or didn't happen to Shoshana is going to be ignored.
8
posted on
10/26/2003 3:51:42 PM PST
by
CGTRWK
Comment #9 Removed by Moderator
To: thegreatbeast
Thank you, Johnson was walking.. And not injured... Lynch was carried out of the iraqi hospital on a stretcher. Wow it is racism now to be not be injured and to expect money from the man..This makes me sick.
To: DAPFE8900
Shot in both ankles isn't injured to you?
Wow, I suppose you think Terri Schiavo is just resting.
11
posted on
10/26/2003 4:01:58 PM PST
by
ChemistCat
(Hang in there, Terri. Absorb. Take in. Live. Heal.)
To: ChemistCat
20% is the standard payout for a wound of that type. The military actually has percentages based on type of injury. Lynch's higher percentage is due to the greater number and location of injuries.
That is all.
12
posted on
10/26/2003 4:06:46 PM PST
by
dark_lord
(The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
To: yonif
13
posted on
10/26/2003 4:07:14 PM PST
by
SC DOC
To: dark_lord
Sure. I know what you're saying. But it's not that she was NOT INJURED.
14
posted on
10/26/2003 4:10:27 PM PST
by
ChemistCat
(Hang in there, Terri. Absorb. Take in. Live. Heal.)
To: Mike Darancette
Infortnately, who you like or dislike has no bearing, nor does rationality ...
POW status has no bearing, both were POWs, one longer, one not so long.
I expect that Lynch had more broken bones and bruised innards than did Johnson - otherwise they'd both have been in a hospital or a prison. (ergo, dissimilar disability)
I also expect that Ms Johnson will get a greater disability via review - just because.
Both ladies will have a rough row to hoe, and both should get all the support they can from a "grateful nation".
However,
I know men still showing Vietnam brain-scars who get nada.
I was OFFERED ten percent for jungle rot and turned it down. (I now know the names of each and every fungucide on the market but none that actually works...)
I have a co-worker who gets $350.00 a month plus for fainting in line during draft physical. (one day minus, count 'em, one!)
So go figure.
15
posted on
10/26/2003 4:13:26 PM PST
by
norton
To: ChemistCat
16
posted on
10/26/2003 4:14:34 PM PST
by
ALOHA RONNIE
(Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.)
To: roylene
You never know... Italians were looked at as greaseballs and part of the great unwashed immigrant wave anyway. If Jackson wants to whine, whine about the way blacks were treated in the military during WW2. Today the military opens up tremendous opportunity for black youth, and youth in general from poor backgrounds. GI bill for education, job training esp. if it's something that can transfer to civilian life.
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posted on
10/26/2003 4:15:20 PM PST
by
cyborg
(Kyk nou, die ding wat jy soek issie hierie sienj)
To: Mike Darancette
I haerd her appearance on Jay Leno was really good. She's very personable and good natured lady.
18
posted on
10/26/2003 4:16:08 PM PST
by
cyborg
(Kyk nou, die ding wat jy soek issie hierie sienj)
To: CGTRWK
If any grievance needs to be addressed, it should be addressed towards the schizophrenic media, not the military. The media are always obsessed with cute,little blonde girls.
If I ever saw Jesse Jackson coming to offer his 'help' I'd tell him go away.
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posted on
10/26/2003 4:19:13 PM PST
by
cyborg
(Kyk nou, die ding wat jy soek issie hierie sienj)
To: DAPFE8900
However, Lynch received $1 million for her book/TV movie deal. If anyone gets this much money, they should NOT be received any type of compensation from the military. I say revoke Lynch's money and give it to other injured soldiers.
To: yonif
Good Lord. If this is not a sign of the times, nothing is. These young people, like millions before them, volunteered to go in harms way. Now one of their FATHERS is seeking to put his daughter on the federal teat for a lifetime. Disgusting.
In the future he should just instruct his offspring to slip and fall at a Wal-mart.
21
posted on
10/26/2003 4:29:47 PM PST
by
billhilly
(If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
To: billhilly
Uh huh. They volunteered to go into harm's way for you, and you want to make sure that their injuries never cost you anything.
What a PATRIOT. Did you attend the Rallies for America with a sign, "JUST DON'T GET HURT AND NEED HELP."
22
posted on
10/26/2003 4:38:02 PM PST
by
ChemistCat
(Hang in there, Terri. Absorb. Take in. Live. Heal.)
To: roylene
My dad lost an arm in WWII and received a rating of 10% disability - I wonder if that was racist - we are Italian after all. Was this the typical payment the Italian government paid their disabled vets?
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posted on
10/26/2003 4:38:13 PM PST
by
Doe Eyes
To: ChemistCat
Thanks for your words ChemistCat, it nice to see it when a few here that truely appreciate the military post.
-instead of those few freepers that just brand military, or civilians [that point out clear facts & injustices done to the soldiers] as whiner's because it's not keeping with the -stick your fingers in your ears and say "La La La La" if it is anything but good news from Iraq- mentality.
Not all news is bad from Iraq, nor can all of it be good either, regardless Thanks for your post, it was uplifting.
24
posted on
10/26/2003 4:40:50 PM PST
by
KineticKitty
(We support our troops...as long as what they say/do fits our preconceived notions?)
Comment #25 Removed by Moderator
To: yonif
If you let the VA adjudicate your case rather than have one of the service organization reps with a good record represent you at any hearings...you WILL be shortchanged....
Go talk to a DAV (Disabled American Veterans) Service rep- or MOPH (Purple Heart) -AMVETS,- PVA (Paralyzed Veterans Association)-Or VFW (Veterans of Foreign Wars)
You wouldnt go into court and let the District Attorney represent you ...would you?
If you go into a VA adjudication hearing without a rep...it pretty much amounts to the same thing...
Sorry .....but the VA is not your friend in these hearings folks....tell your relatives friends and neighbors so they can look out for their kids...dont trust your kids to the politicians and bureaucrats...
imo
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posted on
10/26/2003 4:52:54 PM PST
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: yonif
Anyone who allows Jesse Jackson to speak for him or her is worthless, IMO.
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posted on
10/26/2003 4:55:59 PM PST
by
Sloth
("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
To: billhilly
We have become a mean, meritritious, grasping society we have become. And it will only get worse.
28
posted on
10/26/2003 4:58:46 PM PST
by
gaspar
To: yonif
Didn't Jackson call Colin Powell an Uncle Tom once?
To: Sloth
If only Jesse had been standing a little more to the left that one fateful day years ago....
To: yonif
She would have been better off at home rather than abandoning her child.
31
posted on
10/26/2003 5:27:02 PM PST
by
nmh
To: ChemistCat
Look, jerk, I spent twelve years on active duty a very long time ago. How about you?
32
posted on
10/26/2003 5:31:07 PM PST
by
billhilly
(If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
To: RedBloodedAmerican; Sloth
<< If only Jesse had been standing a little more to the left that one fateful day years ago .... >>
Would have had to be an awful "little more."
Hijackson was a floor away from the Reverend King when he was shot -- and about 30 yards in a straight line.
Hijack ran upstairs later and smeared a little of Mr King's blood on hisself and started lyin' about where he'd bin at the time -- and has bin a lyin' ever since.
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posted on
10/26/2003 5:31:57 PM PST
by
Brian Allen
( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
To: Brian Allen
Okay, call me a tinfoiler, but for a long time I have always thought that JJ had something to do with the Kings death. JJ has more than a few skeletons in his closet. He has a houseful.
To: ChemistCat
She was walking on the video when she was getting on the freedom bird...Lynch had to be carried out of her iraqi prison!
To: DAPFE8900
Might just mean she's tough. Anybody who can walk on two bulletwounded ankles is no crybaby.
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posted on
10/26/2003 5:58:01 PM PST
by
ChemistCat
(Hang in there, Terri. Absorb. Take in. Live. Heal.)
To: ChemistCat
I'm still waiting to hear about your war record.
37
posted on
10/26/2003 6:20:39 PM PST
by
billhilly
(If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
To: yonif
"There's a long history of blacks not receiving fair and
adequate recognition in the military," said Jackson. See here, this is what I really need to hear.
Jesse Jerkoff.
38
posted on
10/26/2003 6:42:01 PM PST
by
BobbyK
(The Truth Is Out There.)
To: billhilly
Hell, he says Johnson got both ankles shot, I'm tring hard
not to take sides, but with JJ in one corner, I'll run to the other.
39
posted on
10/26/2003 6:56:36 PM PST
by
BobbyK
(The Truth Is Out There.)
To: billhilly
Married to an Air Force enlisted man who served for 24 years. He ENLISTED during 'Nam. I tried to enlist but my eyesight is too bad.
Don't you DARE CALL MY MILITARY WHINERS.
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posted on
10/26/2003 7:02:25 PM PST
by
ChemistCat
(Hang in there, Terri. Absorb. Take in. Live. Heal.)
To: BobbyK
Yes. I remember an old saying, "Don't write checks with your mouth that your A$$ can't cash." Talk is cheap. I'm betting that this chemist is smoking his own product.
41
posted on
10/26/2003 7:06:28 PM PST
by
billhilly
(If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
To: yonif
In calculating disability benefits, the lowest reimbursement is for feet. Apparently you can provide a living for yourself if you can use your hands,eyes, and mind and be in a wheelchair vs. the alternative.
42
posted on
10/26/2003 7:11:08 PM PST
by
Cate
To: cyborg
Very good points. Relatively few blacks serve in combat arms compared to thirty or forty years ago. One of the reasons turns out to be that while white kids often see a military hitch as an adventure before returning to a life in progress, black kids tend to think about a career in the service, to be followed by a civilian job.
Most people in infantry are white. Most personnel management types are black. Not an accident.
d.o.l.
Criminal Number 18F
43
posted on
10/26/2003 7:29:05 PM PST
by
Criminal Number 18F
(The essence of life, I concluded, did not lie in the material. -- Charles A. Lindbergh)
To: ChemistCat
Let me guess. You have a Phd, a maid, and you live in a trailer.
44
posted on
10/26/2003 7:31:44 PM PST
by
billhilly
(If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
To: Criminal Number 18F
Jesse Jackson is a turd. Did he ever serve one minute in the military? If he said something about the racism in the military years ago, he'd had a case. The big recruiting tools now are the bonuses and most important the GI bills and the military footing the bill to medical school,etc. Become a lifer when one is young, then when you're forty, pull a nice pension AND still be young enough to have a civilian job. JJ is an idiot. Only him could overlook the fact that the military went from being a racially divisive thing in many ways(not all the time) to a model of real brotherhood and true unity among American men of different backgrounds. It doesn't serve Jesse's agenda to have men,black and white, refer to eachother as BROTHERS because they were 'in country' together Funny when VC bullets are whizzing over one's head, easy to forget such superficial things like race.
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posted on
10/26/2003 7:37:24 PM PST
by
cyborg
(Kyk nou, die ding wat jy soek issie hierie sienj)
To: RedBloodedAmerican
There's some FReeper that has a link called Jesse's Bloody Shirt... wish I could find it
46
posted on
10/26/2003 7:38:21 PM PST
by
cyborg
(Kyk nou, die ding wat jy soek issie hierie sienj)
To: nmh
Okay whatever... what would you prefer? Her to stay wherever she's from and be a single mother working two jobs? In case you didn't know, her baby's life was probably more enhanced by her joining the military with the medical coverage, BAQ allowance, base babysitters,etc.
47
posted on
10/26/2003 7:41:13 PM PST
by
cyborg
(Kyk nou, die ding wat jy soek issie hierie sienj)
To: billhilly
I think it's a miracle of science that you learned how to use a computer.
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posted on
10/26/2003 8:00:02 PM PST
by
ChemistCat
(Hang in there, Terri. Absorb. Take in. Live. Heal.)
To: Mike Darancette
I saw her on Leno also and was quite impressed. She's a sharp cookie and should have been a comedian. Whoopie should take a look at her. She could be Whoopie's cousin from Hobokin and annoy the Persian.
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posted on
10/26/2003 8:07:30 PM PST
by
Sacajaweau
(God Bless Our Troops!!)
To: Norse
These girls never shoulda been there in the first place We don't have enough men to do their jobs. If these "girls" as you call them had not been there, who would have been?
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