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For Modesto, Peterson slaying cements dark notoriety
The Mercury News ^ | Oct 27, 2003 | Julia Prodis Sulek

Posted on 10/27/2003 5:40:38 AM PST by runningbear

For Modesto, Peterson slaying cements dark notoriety

Posted on Mon, Oct. 27, 2003

For Modesto, Peterson slaying cements dark notoriety
CASE TOUCHES NERVE IN TOWN FAMILIAR WITH TRAGIC TALES
By Julia Prodis Sulek

Mercury News

MODESTO - Twice a week, locals get a shadowy glimpse of Scott Peterson as he strolls around the fenced roof of the downtown jail. The time varies, just in case someone tries to take a shot at him.

Some people are withholding judgment about whether the 30-year-old fertilizer salesman is guilty of killing his pregnant wife and her fetus, at least until prosecutors reveal their case during a preliminary hearing beginning Wednesday. But many in this conservative Central Valley town of farmers and commuters made up their minds long ago.

And the feelings are visceral.

``Hang Scott Peterson today and have a fair trial next week,'' said Rita Sorenson, 69, who has followed the case on TV while recuperating from a heart bypass operation and hip-replacement surgery at a local convalescent home. ``He's guilty as sin. Guilty, guilty, guilty.''

Modesto has had more than its share of grisly tales in recent years -- from the murders of three Yosemite tourists by Cary Stayner, a motel handyman who grew up in the Modesto area, to the slaying of Chandra Levy, 24, a Modesto native who was having an affair with 54-year-old local congressman Gary Condit in Washington, D.C.

But it's the Peterson case that has pushed Modesto over the edge, giving this humble community an international reputation as a place stricken by awful things.

About the only good to come from this macabre notoriety is that the newly refurbished State Theater downtown has less trouble booking musical acts. They've heard of Modesto, all right.

`So much sadness'

This is the place where Laci Peterson, the 27-year-old substitute teacher with the dimpled smile, disappeared on Christmas Eve. This is where her husband, who was having an affair with a massage therapist, begged townspeople to help with a widespread search for his wife. And this is where Peterson was charged with two counts of first-degree murder after the bodies of his wife and her fetus washed up separately on the eastern edge of San Francisco Bay.

``We have had so much sadness here,'' said Tracie Medlin, 43, who moved with her two children to Modesto from Soquel 11 years ago. ``People are just disgusted.''

As much as the Peterson killing is a riveting story making the covers of supermarket tabloids and dominating cable talk shows, for Modesto residents, it's personal. It's not just what Peterson may have done to his wife, it's what has happened to their town. And if he did it, what he has done to them.

Many people heeded Peterson's tearful pleas and fruitlessly searched, hung fliers and prayed at candlelight vigils for his wife's safe return. So when Peterson was arrested four months later -- with a beard, dyed hair and a reported $10,000 in cash -- they felt betrayed.

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Peterson case comes back to light this week

Posted 10/26/2003 10:49 PM Updated 10/27/2003 4:51 AM

Peterson case comes back to light this week

By John Ritter, USA TODAY

SAN FRANCISCO — Almost from the moment Laci Peterson vanished, police and the public fingered her husband, Scott. When Laci's body and her unborn son's washed up in San Francisco Bay four months later, he was charged with a crime that had become a national fixation.

Scott Peterson, right, goes on trial this week for the murder of wife Laci, left.

By The Modesto Bee

Even California Attorney General Bill Lockyer fueled the widespread belief that Scott Peterson was guilty by calling the case a "slam dunk."

Now comes Peterson's first chance to punch holes in that perception.

At a preliminary hearing beginning Wednesday in Modesto, the public gets its first look at how prosecutors will try to tie the former fertilizer salesman to a double murder.

His lawyers will try to persuade Judge Al Girolami to throw out key evidence investigators obtained from wiretaps, bloodhounds, hypnosis, DNA analysis and tracking by global positioning systems.

The Peterson case has always been more than just another brutal domestic crime.

Its titillating details sucked America in: the attractive mother-to-be missing on Christmas Eve, the tight-knit community's anguished search, the stunning revelation that her husband had been having an affair, his lawyers' theory that a Satanic cult was involved and fresh allegations from a jail inmate in Fresno that Scott had tried to hire neo-Nazi gangsters to kill his wife.

"It's got a lot of human intrigue," says Laurie Levenson, a law professor at Loyola University in Los Angeles. "But the main reason it's gotten so much attention is that you had a whole community that spent their Christmas dinner looking for Laci Peterson, a whole community invested in this case.

"It became a cause celebre ."

Legal experts say the preliminary hearing could preview battles at Peterson's trial next year.

Look for his lead lawyer, Mark Geragos, to try to discredit the police investigation and maybe float other scenarios of how Laci died.

He may try to lock in the testimony of prosecution witnesses, hoping later to show inconsistencies with their trial testimony.

"Usually the defense uses these hearings as a chance to learn and to probe," says Erwin Chemerinsky, a University of Southern California law professor.

Assistant District Attorney David Harris is .......

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Cast of Characters: A Witness - Frey romance turned the case to full boil

Cast of Characters: A Witness - Frey romance turned the case to full boil

By GARTH STAPLEY
BEE STAFF WRITER

Published: October 26, 2003, 04:39:53 PM PST

Of the many bombshells in the Peterson case, none has burst with greater force than that of Scott Peterson's romance with Amber Frey.

Many observers say that Frey's testimony might be the key to locking away her former boyfriend -- or sending him to his death.

The Fresno massage therapist and single mother appeared joyful in photos showing her cozying up to Peterson by a Christmas tree. Friends say the happiness turned to horror when she realized her beau was not only married, but also a suspected killer.

Laci Peterson was small, dark-haired and outgoing. Amber Frey is tall, blond and quiet. She has said she didn't know Peterson was married when they met Nov. 20. People close to Frey say she quickly fell in love with Peterson.

Phone records show that Frey first contacted police at 1:43 a.m. Dec. 30. They also suggest that she maintained an active phone relationship with Peterson as investigators bugged his cell phones.

Frey, 28, also dialed family and friends of Laci Peterson -- 53 times. She hoped to assure them she had no idea Peterson was married, and that she prayed for the return of his wife and their son, sources said.

If Frey was chatty with Laci Peterson's loved ones, she's the opposite with media. Frey has spoken publicly only twice: in a January news conference arranged by police and in May to announce she had hired a lawyer.

Gloria Allred, a self-proclaimed feminist attorney, has been at the center of many gender-issue cases. Her clients include Pamela Anderson, Paula Jones and the family of murder victim Nicole Brown Simpson.

Allred has one focus: to protect Frey's reputation and -- by extension -- her credibility. That could be hugely important to prosecutors as well.

Reporters of all stripes have pursued Frey relentlessly, turning up nude and semi-nude photos she had posed for four years ago, when she hoped to become a model. A tabloid published some in February; a porn broker said he bought rights to the pictures and posted them on his Web site in September, charging $19.95 for peeks. Last week, she sued the broker for $6 million.

Also figuring in Frey's entourage is her father, Ron. Initially eager to comment, he has drifted to the background.

Lana Romano, who worked for Ron Frey's construction ............

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Actor leads bikers on Peterson ride


The Fabulous Blue Notes play at the Fruit Yard for the Laci Peterson memorial. DEBBIE NODA/THE BEE

Shawn Rocha organized the event to thank volunteers for helping search for his cousin Laci Peterson. DEBBIE NODA/THE BEE


Above, the Homewreckers entertain at the blues concert held Saturday at the Fruit Yard. Hundreds of Harley-Davidson owners proudly turned out for the occasion. DEBBIE NODA/THE BEE

Actor leads bikers on Peterson ride

By KEN CARLSON
BEE STAFF WRITER

Published: October 26, 2003, 04:36:31 PM PST

Shawn Rocha, the cousin of homicide victim Laci Peterson, had met actor and fellow motorcycle enthusiast Mickey Jones only once. They had shaken hands at a bikers' rally some time ago.

But somehow Rocha knew Jones was the right person to host a memorial event for his cousin and her son, Conner.

The event, called the Laci Peterson Memorial Day & Concert, was held Saturday at the Fruit Yard on Highway 132 to thank people who had worked and prayed for Peterson's safe return.

The bodies of Laci and Conner Peterson were recovered in April along the shore of San Francisco Bay. Her husband, Scott, is charged with their murders.

"When I got an e-mail from Shawn, he said, 'I am sure you are asked to do this all the time,'" Jones recalled Saturday.

"I do a lot of events that I get paid for, but sometimes you have to do what your heart tells you is the right thing to do."

Jones has appeared in numerous television and movie roles, including the science-fiction thriller "Total Recall" and the ABC comedy series "Home Improvement." He is in the recently released film "The Fighting Temptations."

Jones also serves as a spokesman for Indian Motorcycle Corp. He made the trip from Southern California with his wife, Phyllis, who arrived by car.

Also attending the free blues concerts were numerous motorcycle clubs from Northern California, some of which provided volunteers to help stage the event.

"Bikers come out stronger than anyone else for support when others are down," said Rocha, a Harley-Davidson owner who estimated that 600 to 700 bikers participated.

Original idea scrapped

Rocha first planned a large memorial ride in memory of Laci and Conner, but insurance issues convinced him to scuttle the idea in favor of the concert.

Saturday morning, some of the bikers met up at Mitchell's Modesto Harley-Davidson shop on Carpenter Road and rode to Burwood Cemetery near Escalon to visit the gravesites of Laci and Conner.

Jones said he was moved.

"I can't imagine what this family is dealing with," he said. "As of today, I got to know Laci."

Jones later took to the Fruit Yard stage to introduce the bands, the Fabulous Blue Notes and the Homewreckers, and also to help Rocha announce the raffle winners.

Volunteers said fund-raising activity, such as the raffle and T-shirt sales, was for a new nonprofit foundation whose name and purpose is yet to be announced.

Kevin Scott of the Modesto Harley Owners Group said the club was more than willing to provide people to help with the concert.

"As soon as Shawn made the call, it was like bees to honey," he said. "A lot of people have asked how they can help the Petersons. This is the best tribute you can give them."

Other clubs represented at the event included American Legion Riders of Turlock, the Livermore HOG chapter and the Blue Knights, a group of retired peace officers.........

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Peterson stage is set


Media hordes will again descend on Modesto's streets this week. AL GOLUB/THE BEE

Peterson stage is set

By JOHN COTÉ
BEE STAFF WRITER

Published: October 27, 2003, 05:02:57 AM PST

The public's first real look at evidence against accused double-murderer Scott Peterson is expected Wednesday, when prosecutors begin laying out a legal case that has been under wraps for 10 months.

"Everything will be a revelation to us," said Ruth Jones, a criminal law professor at McGeorge School of Law in Sacramento and a former prosecutor. "This case is unique in that sense."

Peterson's preliminary hearing, which likely will last five days, could demonstrate the strength of the prosecution's case and outline the possible trial.

The hearing that begins Wednesday is to determine whether there is enough evidence to try Peterson in the deaths of his 27-year-old wife, Laci, and their son, Conner. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

It's unclear how much evidence the prosecution will unveil at the hearing, because it's relatively easy to have a defendant held for trial. For that reason, the defense rarely calls witnesses, protecting them from cross-examination.

But this case is different, legal observers said, pointing to widespread public scrutiny that has influenced legal tactics and might affect the trial.

"There are two battles going on here," San Francisco Deputy District Attorney James Hammer said. "The legal battle and the PR battle."

In the legal battle, attorneys are poised to spar over an array of evidence the defense wants kept out of court, including information from wiretaps, electronic tracking devices, DNA testing and scent-tracking dogs.

The judge also is to hear a defense argument that a potentially key piece of evidence -- a single hair found attached to a pair of needle-nose pliers in Peterson's boat -- likely was "altered" while in police possession.

Prosecutors contend that the hair simply broke inside an evidence bag.

The hair could be a critical piece of physical evidence linking Laci Peterson to the boat her husband said he took fishing on Christmas Eve, the day she was reported missing.

The defense's challenge of the evidence signals a wider tactic of trying to show that investigators acted improperly, echoing the O.J. Simpson murder trial, legal observers said. A jury acquitted the former football star in 1995 of killing his ex-wife and her friend.

"It's a very important strategy," said Professor George Bisharat, a criminal ...........

(Excerpt) Read more at bayarea.com ...


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some over the weekend stories,and today on Scott Peterson.
1 posted on 10/27/2003 5:40:38 AM PST by runningbear
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To: Rheo; Mystery Y; Searching4Justice; brneyedgirl; Scupoli; sissyjane; TexKat; Lanza; Mrs.Liberty; ...
Pinging.......
2 posted on 10/27/2003 5:42:29 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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Pinging.......
3 posted on 10/27/2003 5:42:56 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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Pinging.......
4 posted on 10/27/2003 5:43:23 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
bump
5 posted on 10/27/2003 5:47:07 AM PST by MEG33
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To: runningbear
Thanks for the new thread rb! I thought that concert was a wonderful way to thank the thousands who searched and prayed for Laci and Connor. They feel betrayed by Scott, but are given heartfelt thanks from the Rochas.
6 posted on 10/27/2003 5:55:30 AM PST by Jackie-O
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To: runningbear
What did Condit know and when did he "know" her? (just kidding...somewhat)
7 posted on 10/27/2003 5:57:41 AM PST by philman_36
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To: runningbear
Thank you, Runningbear.

I've got my sewing projects lined up for the trial. I sure hope CTV broadcasts it. As painful as it might be for the Rocha's, it would be nice to see Stupid Scott be brought down blunder by blunder.

Pinz
8 posted on 10/27/2003 7:28:10 AM PST by pinz-n-needlez
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To: pinz-n-needlez
Pinz, no cameras in the courtroom for the pre-lim...hopefully for the trial.
9 posted on 10/27/2003 7:45:11 AM PST by Jackie-O
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To: Jackie-O
Thanks for the info. Hope Fred (what's his last name?) at CTV can convince them for the trial.

Sad to admit, I'm STILL in withdrawal from the OTHER Peterson trial. Nothing like slogging through all of the minutia and trivia to learn how the system works (or doesn't) and how criminals trip themselves up.

These threads are a close second, though. :-) Thank you, all you sleuthers who keep us mostly-lurkers up to date on the latest.

Pinz
10 posted on 10/27/2003 7:50:24 AM PST by pinz-n-needlez
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now that the P&G plant is closed, there are modesto folks all over the US... wonder how they are reacting to people who know they are from modesto. (and vice versa)
11 posted on 10/27/2003 8:32:07 AM PST by KneelBeforeZod (If God hadn't meant for them to be sheared, he wouldn't have made them sheep.)
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To: runningbear
Thanks very much, rb, for the updates!
12 posted on 10/27/2003 8:47:11 AM PST by Sandylapper
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To: Sandylapper
Will they have "delayed" video of the Pre lim ? Anyone know ?
13 posted on 10/27/2003 9:31:58 AM PST by Neenah ("It's always something !")
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To: Neenah
I don't think so, but don't know that for a fact. Believe they said, "No cameras in courtroom". Wonder if they'll have sketch artists present?
14 posted on 10/27/2003 9:38:55 AM PST by Sandylapper
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To: editer
Are you thinking about applying for the job?
16 posted on 10/27/2003 10:00:36 AM PST by Sandylapper
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To: runningbear
I am sitting here getting all teary eyed again,geesh this is a case that has really affected me.
18 posted on 10/27/2003 10:02:56 AM PST by suzyq5558 (Terri is not in a coma!)
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To: editer
OMG! You wouldn't be getting the original. You'll have to wait for the sketch to go into "print".
19 posted on 10/27/2003 10:04:07 AM PST by Sandylapper
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To: runningbear
Walking through the check out line at the store, I noticed a story on the cover of Globe that said Peterson bragged to other inmate that he killed Laci with one blow.

I don't put much stock in the tabloids, but just thought I would mention it.
20 posted on 10/27/2003 11:17:40 AM PST by trussell (PRAYER WORKS!!)
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To: trussell
I saw that also. Who knows huh? Anyway we are marching forward to finding out. BBL
21 posted on 10/27/2003 12:56:06 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: runningbear
I think the Modesto Bee did a pretty good job yesterday listing the cast of characters. Anxious to see how all this will play beginning Wednesday.
22 posted on 10/27/2003 2:15:10 PM PST by Diver Dave
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To: Canadian Outrage
Hi Lynn. I was just able to get back on here at home...My AOL connection sucks, I think I'm quitting it soon.
I have been over to the CA fires live threads all day...my brother and his family are in Santee, just talked to him. It's been a rough go for these poor people in SO CA...Brother Nik and family are safe, thank God. SanDiego CO a mess.
23 posted on 10/27/2003 6:01:36 PM PST by Jackie-O
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To: Canadian Outrage
I want to wish you a very happy anniversary!
24 posted on 10/27/2003 6:59:31 PM PST by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: Jackie-O
I know what those people are going through after what we experienced this summer. It's AWFUL!! And thank you Jackie and Maggie for the ANNIVERSARY WISHES. We went to my sister & BIL's last night for dinner and a few shots. It was fun. Tonight is ALL mine. Besides, I'm so bagged from work I wouldn't have wanted to go anywhere anyway. LOL
25 posted on 10/27/2003 8:15:47 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Jackie-O
I know what those people are going through after what we experienced this summer. It's AWFUL!! And thank you Jackie and Maggie for the ANNIVERSARY WISHES. We went to my sister & BIL's last night for dinner and a few shots. It was fun. Tonight is ALL mine. Besides, I'm so bagged from work I wouldn't have wanted to go anywhere anyway. LOL
26 posted on 10/27/2003 8:15:53 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: MaggieMay
You sweet thangs you!! I appreciate it. Wouldn't you know that we had an excrutiatingly stressful day at work today and tonight we don't really even like each other. LOL!!
27 posted on 10/27/2003 8:17:34 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
Happy Anniversary, CO! You aren't supposed to like him this week--you're going to be busy, remember? He CANNOT have the computer to play bridge!
28 posted on 10/27/2003 8:40:46 PM PST by Sandylapper
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To: Canadian Outrage
Happy anniversary!!!

Maybe y'all can trim some hedges together on the weekend!
29 posted on 10/27/2003 8:41:01 PM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
Sounds good to me! ;)
30 posted on 10/27/2003 8:44:07 PM PST by Sandylapper
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To: Devil_Anse; Sandylapper
Sounds good to me too. But does HE get the electric trimmers? That ought to do it. Everything will be scalped bald.!!
31 posted on 10/27/2003 8:47:51 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
PS I am SO TIRED tonight, I'm gonna head for the sack. Just remember, ONLY two days to go, Yipee, - wonder if Geragos is gonna try to drop his stink bomb in the meantime?
32 posted on 10/27/2003 8:49:26 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Canadian Outrage
Yeah, let him use the electric trimmers--if he relinquishes computer rights all week.
33 posted on 10/27/2003 8:52:12 PM PST by Sandylapper
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To: trussell
yeah I saw that too.... the "one blow" caught my attention...
34 posted on 10/28/2003 2:43:05 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Sandylapper
kind of stuck on the news about the Southern Ca fires.. My sister is in Imperial Beach, San Diego, and is having problems with the air...
35 posted on 10/28/2003 2:44:27 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Hope it turns out all right for your sis, RB!! Get her up there where you are!!
36 posted on 10/28/2003 5:01:44 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
no, she likes the beach... and the perks from the commissary on base... ;o)
37 posted on 10/28/2003 5:21:50 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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Peterson case moves at last from tabloids to courtroom

Posted on Tue, Oct. 28, 2003

Peterson case moves at last from tabloids to courtroom

By Brian Anderson
CONTRA COSTA TIMES

A strand of hair. A piece of tape. A brown van.

A trail of evidence leading to Laci Peterson's killer has been left behind.

From the time the Modesto woman vanished Christmas Eve to the days in April when her remains and those of her unborn baby were found in Richmond, investigators have pieced together a strange mix of clues. Those leads, authorities said, point to the woman's husband, Scott Peterson, who was arrested April 18 and charged in her killing.

But defense lawyers using the same evidence and roundly different theories say the evidence not only exonerates their client, but also shows who really committed the brutal crime.

Both sides will begin using that evidence Wednesday at a preliminary hearing to convince a Stanislaus County judge that their theory is accurate. Only the judge can decide if there is enough evidence incriminating Peterson to hold him for trial on murder charges and special circumstances that allow prosecutors to pursue a death sentence.

Bit by bit

Once off-limits, much of the evidence that is expected to be presented at the preliminary hearing has slowly filtered to the reporters who have been digging away at one of the country's hottest real-life dramas. In the beginning, leaks were to blame, even as officials worked to conceal from the media what they had found.

Leaks about Scott Peterson's mistress and an insurance policy he reportedly had taken out on his wife months before she disappeared found their way into the headlines. There were leaks about cement residue in his boat and on human remains that turned out to be Laci Peterson and her unborn son.

An investigator leaked information about photographs and hair samples authorities collected from Scott Peterson early in the case. "A source close to the defense" leaked information about taped phone calls and evidence that pointed to "credible suspects" in Laci Peterson's disappearance.

There was a leaked autopsy report, providing eager reporters with information that Laci's fetus was found with tape around its neck and a gash to its body............

38 posted on 10/28/2003 5:25:57 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Well, okay--she can just come up to see you during the fire crisis!
39 posted on 10/28/2003 5:26:40 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
lol.... she would if she can... I think the hwys and byways are clogged from people fleeing.. (was looking at the traffic logs in LA area)... She says the air with the ashes falling down is like it is snowing... and strong burning brush smells... Not good for people with bronchonitis, or other breathing disorders.. But I think eventually the ocean breeze, once containment is there, will clear the air..
40 posted on 10/28/2003 5:33:50 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Devil_Anse; All
this is a neat image of the fires:

Fires in Southern California

41 posted on 10/28/2003 5:46:05 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Devil_Anse; runningbear; Velveeta; grizzfan; Jackie-O; Canadian Outrage; STOCKHRSE; All
In runningbear's post #38. In the third to the last paragraph,I quote,"There were leaks about cement residue in his boat and on human remains that turned out to be Laci Peterson and her unborn son." So there is the confirmation we were looking for, there was cement residue in Laci's body cavity.
42 posted on 10/28/2003 6:08:12 AM PST by MaggieMay (A blank tag is a terrible thing to waste)
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To: MaggieMay
just awful of scaughty...
43 posted on 10/28/2003 6:34:11 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
I talked to my brother in Santee last night...as we talked he went out on his front porch and said, "Jack, it smells like the world is having a barbeque!" He told me that the air quality is dangerous, ash and embers all over his yard, in the pool,covering everything. He sent me some pics of his backyard, a night time shot, but it was lit up but the fires only blocks away. Frightening for the children.
44 posted on 10/28/2003 6:46:35 AM PST by Jackie-O
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To: runningbear
How very topographical looking! Hey, when are they gonna contain these things, I wonder?
45 posted on 10/28/2003 6:46:43 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: runningbear
He also told me when he and the boys were coming back from LA on sunday, most of the highways were closed, the ones that were open were a mess...said that literally all of SO CA was in flames...
46 posted on 10/28/2003 6:48:34 AM PST by Jackie-O
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To: MaggieMay
Aha! We keep hearing that!

How on earth could a person lift a corpse, even lift it just enough to dump it out of a boat, with hardened cement sticking to it? I mean, that seems like it would be HEAVY. OTOH, suppose the cement hadn't hardened when he dumped her. Wouldn't it then have dissolved and floated away in the bay?

Geez, it almost sounds like he filled her with cement. I know that's disgusting sounding, sorry.
47 posted on 10/28/2003 6:52:22 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
I just don't see how he would get any great amounts of cement into her body..I was thinking that cement may have gotten into the cavities if he had her in some type of container and attmpted to fill the container with cement, maybe the cement seeped into some cavities??
Bizzare to even feature!
48 posted on 10/28/2003 6:57:26 AM PST by Jackie-O
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Depending on just how sick this s.o.b. is, I'm thinking maybe he had some sort of tool, similar to a caulking gun, but bigger, something that would be filled with cement, and allow one to sort of "inject" wet cement, which would then dry as "fill". Maybe I'd better rein in my imagination for now, lol...
49 posted on 10/28/2003 7:01:02 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
Anyone who would kill another human being, let alone his pregnant wife, is sick..on many levels.
50 posted on 10/28/2003 7:13:30 AM PST by Jackie-O
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