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Chrysler's cruise missile
Design News ^ | 10/20/2003 | Staff

Posted on 10/27/2003 12:01:41 PM PST by BraveMan

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To: pt17
Thank you. You just made my day! :-)~~
41 posted on 10/27/2003 1:35:59 PM PST by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA Bring 'em Home, Or Send us Back!! Semper Fi)
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To: RightWhale
Does wedging one under a porch count?

I think I hold the record for the longest (duration) over-the-bars endo . . .

Back in my young and foolish days (as opposed to my current old and foolish days) I was following behind a friend's car on my Kawasaki KL-250. I caught the eye of a fetchingly cute young girl walking on the sidewalk along the street. Unbeknownst to me, this beauty has also caught the attention of my friend in the car ahead of me, who stopped in the middle of the street . . .

Well, I hit him about five miles an hour, imparting just enough force to stand my bike straight up on the front tire, and push his car forward about eight feet. Ever so slowly the bike continued over, landing in a perfect three-point stance (two handlebar ends and the taillight) and pinning me underneath sprawled out on the pavement. Try as I might, I couldn't muscle up enough leverage to get the bike off me, pinned in the position I was.

My friend jumped out of his car to rescue me from my predicament. When he saw me helplessly pinned uner the bike, he couldn't stop laughing. I finally convinced him to peel the bike off me as the tears rolled down his cheeks . . .

The fetchingly cute young girl walking on the sidewalk also was laughing so hard, she had to sit down on the curb while she composed herself. At the time, I was the only one who didn't think the situation was so damn funny.

I never did meet that girl . . .

42 posted on 10/27/2003 1:50:35 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: Fierce Allegiance
They rode those things in TRON
43 posted on 10/27/2003 1:50:42 PM PST by hattend
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To: BraveMan

Stunt Stoppies??

44 posted on 10/27/2003 2:01:19 PM PST by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA Bring 'em Home, Or Send us Back!! Semper Fi)
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To: BraveMan
Not to take anything away from this interesting engineering exercise/marketing toy,I feel compelled to pose the following:

1- Who or what company would be willing to write an insurance policy on this thing?

Answer: Nobody

2- Who is going to buy this?

Answer: Jay Leno, for one...and anyone crazy enough to "need" it.

If you can't insure it, you can't ride it on public roads. I doubt that it would pass muster with the DOT but does it really matter? If you can afford the selling price, chances are that you could also build your own road or airstrip to ride it on.

As for this machine reaching 250MPH......not likely without any kind of aerodynamic bodywork. If you've ever been on a "naked" bike, getting above 125mph or so without some kind of bodywork to slice through the air, your hands (and the rest of you exposed to the airstream) become one helluva drag. Just hanging on at 125mph+ on an unfaired bike is a feat in itself. Steering precisely at that speed exposed to the air directly is NOT easy. It doesn't matter how many ponies the motor can put out....without bodywork you MIGHT see something like 150mph. COnsider the following:

On Sept. 13, 1948, Rollie Free rode the first Vincent HRD Black Lightning to a speed of 150.313 m.p.h. at Bonneville. Rollie's leathers tore from early runs at 147 mph, he discarded them and made a final, heroic attempt without jacket, pants, gloves, boots or helmet.

The bike was capable but the rider provided enough drag to prevent speeds in excess of 147mph. He had to ride practically NAKED to get above 150. If there was bodywork...read: WIND PROTECTION, he would have been even faster. 147mph TORE HIS LEATHERS....wrap your mind 'round that for a second.

45 posted on 10/27/2003 2:06:14 PM PST by Range Rover (Karma is a boomerang...)
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To: Range Rover
....and I have it on fairly good authority that he had a BATHING CAP on in the above picture...that's not a helmet.
46 posted on 10/27/2003 2:09:12 PM PST by Range Rover (Karma is a boomerang...)
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To: Aquinasfan
Gillette Sues Energizer Over New Schick Quattro Four-Blade Razor

September 2, 2003

On August 12, 2003 St. Louis-based Energizer Holdings, parent company of Schick-Wilkinson Sword, announced that in September it will begin selling a four-blade razor called "Quattro," touting its latest product’s ergonomic design and synchronized blades. Before the day was out, though, Energizer found itself defending a lawsuit brought by rival Gillette in federal court in Boston. The lawsuit alleges that the Quattro violates Gillette’s patent for "progressive blade geometry" technology used in Gillette’s three-bladed Mach 3. Gillette asserts that the Quattro uses the same technique to stack the blades in the cartridge as Gillette’s top-selling Mach 3 three-bladed razor. The complaint calls for preliminary and permanent injunctive relief, treble monetary damages and other relief.

"A four blade razor would not function well, and would not have significant market appeal, unless it utilized the progressive geometric blade configuration invented by Gillette," the lawsuit stated. "Energizer is deliberately attempting to capitalize on the superior performance of Mach 3, the world's No. 1 shaving product," Gillette spokesman Eric Kraus said. "It's hard to imagine that progressive blade geometry was included in the Quattro product by accident." Gillette claimed that it spent $750 million to develop Mach 3. Energizer responded that it "has always respected the valid intellectual property rights of third parties, including Gillette, and will continue to do so." It said it believes it has valid defenses and will follow through on its previously announced plans to launch Quattro in September.
47 posted on 10/27/2003 2:15:43 PM PST by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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To: Aquinasfan

48 posted on 10/27/2003 2:19:49 PM PST by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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To: JoeSixPack1
Here are some cool motorcycle videos of guys doing stunts like that... some don't end so happily...

Cruzin Homestead
49 posted on 10/27/2003 2:20:01 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: BraveMan
COOL!

I have this issue of Design News... thanks for posting this.

50 posted on 10/27/2003 2:21:53 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Oooooooooooooooooo. Muttly NEED !!!

It makes Muttly's Official 4 Wheel Muttlycycle look wimpy...not a Muttly characteristic. Muttly Official Pal "Big Daddy Roth" would go NUTS with this !

Humpf. Now can't ride Muttlycycle anymore. Sad. Such a good day before this.

Back to Official Yo-Yo Practice...after I dig this little hole....
51 posted on 10/27/2003 2:30:59 PM PST by PoorMuttly (Would YOU mess with a Muttly who even sleeps with his racoonskin cap and sixguns on ?...)
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To: Bon mots
OMG!! Thanks for the link!

I got through the first one and all I could say was, OMG!!

Bookmarked for group viewing!
52 posted on 10/27/2003 2:51:31 PM PST by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA Bring 'em Home, Or Send us Back!! Semper Fi)
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To: Range Rover
If you can't insure it, you can't ride it on public roads.

Untrue in Floriduh! Just FYI. :-)~

53 posted on 10/27/2003 2:55:13 PM PST by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA Bring 'em Home, Or Send us Back!! Semper Fi)
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To: JoeSixPack1
...in this case, I suppose the estate of the deceased should be enough to cover any damages.

While I'm no fan of Insurance companies, having an "incident" with an uninsured driver is something none of us should be saddled with. It has happened to me and to two people I know. The uninsured walked away without having to pay for squat in each case (and they were ALL the cause of the mishaps).

BTW, is that just Bikes that can go without insurance in the Sunshine State? Been a while since I've been there. Judging by all the Floriduh-tagged pastel Cadillacs I see in New England shuttling their Beige Orthopedic-wearing "gotta hit the Early Bird Special" types to and fro, I'd be carrying a full boat of insurance if driving in that state. Hell, I'd get PEDESTRIAN Insurance.

54 posted on 10/27/2003 3:04:22 PM PST by Range Rover (Karma is a boomerang...)
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To: BraveMan
*Perfect*

I say to the idiots running (or is it ruining) Chrysler, "Go for it!"

First these imbuciles went to work at their billion dollar R&D center in Canada & engineered a V10.
Then collared Carol Shelby -- no less -- to design 'em a true "sports car" in the same vein as Carol's AC Cobra, 25 years before.
So far, so *good*.

Next thing ya know?
The public's seeing that same Copperhead V10 showing up as an option in Dodge pickup trucks.
>doink<

Then Chrysler designers come up with the *retro* "PT Cruiser" & people are standing in lines waiting to scoff the thing up.
Those people would've told ya "It has great styling! while the lamestream mediots are giving it all the positive press any American automobile manufacturer could ever possibly ask; thereby, fanning the flames of a hungry motoring public.
What could be better, eh?

So what's the engine Chrysler used to *power* this fabulous testament in styling?
The only engine available is the same old & very *tired* Mitsubishi V6 one found in virtually every other Chrysler product made since the early 90s.
Yawwnnn.

Yup, bought my bride a snazzy red LaBaron convertable with one of those V6 engines in it, &, the torque curve was a classic *flat liner*. "DOA."
We affectionately nicknamed the thing "The Beached Whale" after the groan it'd make when ya mashed the accelerator.
~Yea...whadda car.

Of course then there was *the* incredible, fabulous Prowler!! (Grrrrrr!)
All the *Prowler* V6s that'd been built for that Edsel-like abomination must've wound up going into the PT Cruisers *after* the *braintrust* at Chrysler managed to run Plymouth into the ground & outa business.
So much for what used to be one of the greatest automobile monikers Detroit ever had & why "Penny-wise & Dollar Foolish" was coined.

But wait, the Chrysler bozos weren't done!
Not finished "reading the record"!
It gets even *better*!

First let us return to Chrysler's billion dollar R&D center where after what, 30 years, Chrysler's engineering brainiacs are *reinventing* Chrysler's infamous hemispherical head iron pushrod V8.
Only *this* time the magnificent heads will be worn not on a 392 or monster 426cu/in block, no-no-no!
This iteration of the famous "Hemi" will be a totally new, state-of-the-art 5.7L V8 engine (~350c/in dis +/- an cu/in).
This motor is being marketed as the Second Coming & currently available in yup -- you guessed it -- a Dodge pickup truck.
Sometime next year's the very soonest it'll be available, as an option, in one of Chrysler's passenger cars.
>doink<

Chrysler's so woefully mismanaged as to be hysterically laughable; so, I say bring that *thing* on!
At a paltry half mil I'm sure most of 'em will be sold to the posters right here at FR.
While the moron-huns who're running Chrysler will finally do to Chrysler what Lynn Townsend couldn't with his infamous *Aspen*.
Ruin it. :o)

While across town things aren't much better.
Ford's all set & chaffin' at the bit to launch their new GT40, soon.
Yup, at a time when the automobile market's in a depressed & bloated condition due to 0% et al.
But in all fairness it must be noted, Ford must keep their factories running & the UAW guys at work per the contracts they signed, even if Ford's only planning to build around 1,500 GT40s, at the most!!
Some *savior*, huh.

The new GT40 will still, after all, be a *Ford*; but, *this* Ford's going cost the perspective buyer anywhere between $120 & $150,000!!
Gosh things must be awfully good in Grosse Point! :o)

Naturally while this malarkey's going on at Ford?
In 2005 Ford's, unfortunately, discontinuing what should've *&* could've been Ford's crown jewel.
A car that was extremely affordable & a true "sports car" going head-to-head with Chevrolet's Corvette.
The Ford "Thunderbird."

The car's being scrapped because -- known to all *but* those at Ford World HQ -- the thing could *not* be had with Ford's premium performance V8, the supercharged SVT twin cam 32 valve modular racing engine.
Nope, couldn't get it in a Thunderbird; buuuuut, you *could* get it in the aging Mustang!!
BTW, that's all ya can get that motor in.
>doink<

Guess Ford's *strategy* is to put all their eggs into the mega-buck GT40 during a depressed economy, or, Ford -- apparently -- knows something we don't, huh?

So Braveman, tell me.

...you gonna be signing up for one? {g}

55 posted on 10/27/2003 3:05:16 PM PST by Landru
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To: Range Rover
Yeah, just bikes.
56 posted on 10/27/2003 3:06:30 PM PST by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA Bring 'em Home, Or Send us Back!! Semper Fi)
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To: Range Rover
If you can't insure it, you can't ride it on public roads.

Actually you can but you just have to put a pre-paid insurance policy out .... you determine maximum liability and then you put that much into the insurance policy issuer's banks in something like an escrow account.

If you crash and die ... the other people you clobbered get it. IF you live long enough to cancel your policy then the company takes a cut and hands it back.

57 posted on 10/27/2003 3:07:53 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Virtue untested is innocence)
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To: Range Rover
Remember the Kawasaki Z1-R?

I had one of those things in 1978. It had a little bikini fairing with the instruments built into it.

I decided one day I would wring it out and see what she'd do. I picked out a nice, flat, straight country road, tucked down into the boy-racer crouch and turned up the wick. It seemed to get to 130 mph awfully quick, with a little throttle left over.

When I'd had enough, I rolled out of the throttle. When the beast got back down to 120 mph, I straightened up out of the tuck. Big, big mistake! The wind blast nearly tore me right off the bike. To this day, I don't quite know how I was able to hang on long enough to decelerate down to a reasonable speed.

That was my first and last ride over the Ton, on two wheels, anywhere.

I have a deep, viceral respect for motorcycle aerodynamics and how they relate to speeds above 100 mph. There are forces in play at that speed you wouldn't begin to imagine. I agree, the Tomahawk may well do 200+ mph. However, hitting the slightest bump at that speed would probably eject the rider into the windstream.
58 posted on 10/27/2003 3:11:41 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: Petronski
Gillette claimed that it spent $750 million to develop Mach 3.

Say *what*??

Something tells me I could have come up with something equally workable for a mere million or so.

59 posted on 10/27/2003 3:25:50 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Centurion2000
...I get it now....something in the same vein as "Stated Value" crossed with an escrow account. I guess Lloyds Of London would step up to the plate.

I should be thinking more along the lines of what they do for exotic autos

The thing is that few of us here (and I'm assuming)are flush enough play in that realm (at least from the "owner" side) enough to know the ins and outs of this type of thing.

I'm thinking of taking out a special policy on two of my bikes but I'm paying about $150.00 a year to insure each right now and I consider that a bargain....I used to pay more. When I get a 1930's Indian up and running, I'll need to get a bit more coverage, I suppose.

Thanks for the info. I can't be the only one curious so a collective thank you for everyone else while I'm at it....(anyone in the market for a few BSA's? My other half won't complain about a new old bike if I shed a few of the projects.....)

60 posted on 10/27/2003 3:28:16 PM PST by Range Rover (Karma is a boomerang...)
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