Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) October 30-31, 2003

Various | October 30, 2003 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

TERRI'S FIGHT(Daily Thread 2 - October 30-31, 2003)Link back to thread 1 - October 29, 2003

Contained in thread 1:

Summary of Terri's bone scan, transcript from "On the Record" response from Bobby Schindler and Attny. Pat Anderson to Michael Schiavo's appearance on Larry King Live, link to where to search public records for Pinellas County (for a fee), information on Terri's Lights, link to transcript from Larry King Live interview with Michael Schiavo and George Felos, synopsis of radio interview with Michael Schiavo's brother in Pennsylvania, summary of interview with Pat Anderson on Michael Reagan's show, portion of testimony from Schiavo medical malpractice trial, some links to information on the Florida death cult, names and email address for the Florida Supreme Court, information on previous GAL, Richard Pearse, Jr., information on GAL currently being proposed Jay Wolfson and links back to earlier threads on the case. Of course this overview isn't comprehensive, but my main point in this section is to provide easy reference to what could be important information. Also, links to other websites focusing on Terri's fight can be found in thread 1, here.

Thanks to everyone for your contributions and for your dedication to this fight.

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Click on pic for Terri's Website.

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

FL_Engineer suggested that if you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

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Latest Threads On Terri's Case

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My apologies to (some of) the 'save Terri' posters here (a 'vanity' post)

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW - Schindlers Respond to Michael Schiavo's Larry King Love-Fest - PART1

Inside right-to-die case, a woman's real life (a few days old but not posted on first thread)

Michael Schiavo pleads case on CNN

What Should Happen With Terri S. (a "vanity" thread)

Schiavo lawyers challenge 'Terri's Law'

[Ohioan from Florida]

Igel was her gynecologist, Prawer was her general doctor. Prawer settled out of court for an undisclosed amount.

[Lion in Winter]

Whatever hapened about that doctor who resigned last week as Terri's doc?

[Mamzelle]

Where does he come in? I can't get him to google up.

[kodani69]

She WILL live, but she won't be as 'able' because she has been denied therapy all these years (thanks to her supposed 'husband')

I just pray that her parents will be able to bring some kind of joy into her life after all this is said & done. MS has done his best to see to it that she has NO outside stimulation or inter-action with others. No therapy, no love. In essence, he has actually tried to kill her while she was still alive. Hasn't worked, Michael.

Better luck next time.

[Saundra Duffy]

Just imagine this miracle. After all she's been through (abuse, neglect and ATTEMPTED MURDER BY STARVATION) Terri is still alive!! She's a miracle woman. You go, girl!! We're rooting for ya.

[Ohioan from Florida]

He, who? Igel or Prawer?

[Ohioan from Florida]

This was posted on the other Terri daily thread by mommy23:

by LAURA GRIFFIN.
St. Petersburg Times. St. Petersburg, Fla.: Nov 12, 1992. pg. 3.B

see article at
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sptimes/

(excerpt)

Tuesday night, a jury awarded Mrs. Schiavo and her husband, Michael, more than $2-million in a lawsuit they brought against the gynecologist who never asked about her medical or nutritional history while treating her.

During the trial, attorneys for the Schiavos showed a film of a day in Mrs. Schiavo's life at Sabal Palms Nursing Home in Largo. Although she's in a vegetative state, said St. Petersburg lawyer Glenn Woodworth, "you can tell she has some sense of her predicament."

"It's a tragic case," Woodworth said. "She was on the threshold of her life. They were ready to start a family . . . (On the film) she knows her husband and looks into his eyes."

As a child, Mrs. Schiavo was heavy. As a teenager, she weighed about 200 pounds. But she weighed only 120 pounds at age 25. She kept her weight off through a dangerous eating disorder, bulimia, which involves vomiting after eating.

The couple had been married about six years when Mrs. Schiavo began thinking she was pregnant because she kept missing her menstrual periods.

Her family doctor referred her to Dr. Stephen Igel, an obstetrician-gynecologist in Clearwater. But she wasn't pregnant, Woodworth said. She was missing her periods because of poor nutrition.

Woodworth and Miami lawyer Gary Fox maintained that Igel saw Mrs. Schiavo four times over a year and never asked about her nutrition and never noticed the loose skin and stretch marks resulting from her substantial weight loss.

"There were no questions about weight loss, eating habits or anything," Fox said. "She had significant stretch marks on her thighs. This was something a prudent gynecologist would not miss."

Igel treated only the symptoms, he said, not the cause.

On Feb. 24, 1990, after a year of treatment, Michael Schiavo heard a thud in the bathroom. When he went to see what happened, he found his wife crumpled on the floor. She had suffered a heart attack, Fox said.

"I think there are a lot of gynecologists out there who are treating women with Teri's symptoms in an ordinary way," Fox said. "But it's not an ordinary problem."

Igel's attorney, Kenneth Deacon, could not be reached for comment Wednesday.

Fox said Igel's attorney contended that Mrs. Schiavo should have disclosed her problem and that even if he had suspected and asked, she probably would have kept it from him because bulimics are often secretive.

The jury agreed partly with the defense. They originally awarded the Schiavos more than $6-million but found that she was 70 percent at fault. So they subtracted her liability from the award, bringing it down to $2-million, her attorneys said.

The verdict could have been higher, Woodworth said, if the jury hadn't found that because of the bulimia, Mrs. Schiavo had a life expectancy of only 17 more years.

Woodworth said he and Fox questioned the jury's decision to decrease the award and will discuss with Circuit Judge Phillip Federico whether it is legal.

The couple also sued Mrs. Schiavo's family doctor, Joel Prawer, but Prawer settled earlier this year for an undisclosed amount, Woodworth said.

Michael Schiavo has stayed with his wife and takes care of her, Fox said. He is in nursing school so that he can care for her on his own, Fox said.

"This is the kind of guy whose wedding vows are just that - vows," Fox said. "Ironically, Tuesday (the day of the verdict) was their eighth wedding anniversary."

To Fox, the case represents a larger problem: a dangerous societal pressure placed on women to be thin.

"I think it's important that women who have these eating disorders know the downside. I don't think they know how dangerous it is," he said.


470 posted on 10/30/2003 3:46 PM EST by mommy23

[T'wit]

>> Possibly Michael was still having her medical records sealed.

It has been said that the bone scan was indeed sealed until three (?) years ago, when it figured in some legal proceeding. I've also heard that most of Terri's medical records remain sealed, on Michael's orders (presumably rubberstamped by the judge). Don't take any of the above as gospel until we can come up with documentation. Pat Anderson would know.

One would think the bone scan would have been damning to Michael had it been available at the malpractice trial.

(Yo -- insurance companies, come back and sue his butt off!)

[Mamzelle]

re: Yo -- insurance companies, come back and sue his butt off!) )))

I wonder, could they, under right circumstances?

[Republic]

Ohio-thanks for reprinting this here!

ALL-Please see post #107 and read it all...the award was more than we thought, Michael promises to tend to Terri, Micheal is cast as an absolute angel. This article so contradicts what this man has done in the last ten years it needs to be broadcast to the heavens. To Sean, and Glenn Beck, and Larry King and Greta and News Max and World Net Daily and to the ACLJ, and to everyone you know who would care!

If ever there was a damning article against Michael, isn't this it?

This is from the St Petersberg Times, Nov, 1992-and speaks to the settlement Michael received.

[Graymatter]

I checked the court records on a website, it confirms the news reports that there were 2.

[Republic]

I understand the insurance company has folded. Wonder now, if even that is true, or if it simply refiled under a new name.

[Republic]

About post 107-"This is the kind of guy whose wedding vows are just that - vows," Fox said. "Ironically, Tuesday (the day of the verdict) was their eighth wedding anniversary."

This makes my stomach turn. Wish Larry King had thrown this into sneering Michael's face.

[Graymatter]

I thought the insurance co. was Prudential. The rock of Gibraltar may tumble, it's only made of clay, but Prudential...?

[Theodore R.]

The company(ies) that paid Schiavo are no longer in business! He gets another pass.

[Aliska]

are no longer in business!

The obgyn they sued is.

[Republic]

Hmmmmmmmm.....read several posts that said his insurance company was now defunct.....but also, believe that often misinformation is not always accidental. It would be WONDERFUL to know who paid out to Michael...and to contact them....hehe!

[Republic]

Let's see if that is true...how do we go about it? I am not sure I believe this. How about you?

[Theodore R.]

Bobby Schindler said on a radio interview transcribed on Free Republic in August 2003 that they tried to get the insurance companies to sue Schiavo for false testimony and misuse of the funds, but the companies, he said, were out of business now.

[Graymatter]

Here's what I got on docs listed at https://pubtitles.co.pinellas.fl.us/


DEFENDANT SCHIAVO MICHAEL 01003200CI NEGLIGENCE 04/26/01 SCHINDLER ROBERT 011 999899
PLAINTIFF SCHIAVO MICHAEL 03008212CI DECLARATORY 10/21/03 BUSH JEB 020 999999
PLAINTIFF SCHIAVO MICHAEL 90008845CI INJUNCTION 05/22/90 PRUDENTIAL INSURANCE COMPANY OF AMERICA 007 999999
PLAINTIFF SCHIAVO MICHAEL 90018585CI MALPRAC PROF 10/30/90 NEUHARDT ROBERT G MD 018 999799
PLAINTIFF SCHIAVO MICHAEL 90018585CI MALPRAC PROF 10/30/90 NEUHARDT ROBERT G MD 018 999999
PLAINTIFF SCHIAVO MICHAEL 92000939CI MED MAL PRAC 02/20/92 PRAWER JOEL S M D 015 999999
PLAINTIFF SCHIAVO THERESA 90008845CI INJUNCTION 05/22/90 PRUDENTIAL INSURANCE COMPANY OF AMERICA 007 999799
PLAINTIFF SCHIAVO THERESA M 900018585CI MALPRAC PROF 10/30/90 NEUHARDT ROBERT G MD 018 999699