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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) October 30-31, 2003
Various | October 30, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 10/30/2003 10:27:17 AM PST by sweetliberty

TERRI'S FIGHT
(Daily Thread 2 - October 30-31, 2003)
Link back to thread 1 - October 29, 2003

Contained in thread 1:

Summary of Terri's bone scan, transcript from "On the Record" response from Bobby Schindler and Attny. Pat Anderson to Michael Schiavo's appearance on Larry King Live, link to where to search public records for Pinellas County (for a fee), information on Terri's Lights, link to transcript from Larry King Live interview with Michael Schiavo and George Felos, synopsis of radio interview with Michael Schiavo's brother in Pennsylvania, summary of interview with Pat Anderson on Michael Reagan's show, portion of testimony from Schiavo medical malpractice trial, some links to information on the Florida death cult, names and email address for the Florida Supreme Court, information on previous GAL, Richard Pearse, Jr., information on GAL currently being proposed Jay Wolfson and links back to earlier threads on the case. Of course this overview isn't comprehensive, but my main point in this section is to provide easy reference to what could be important information. Also, links to other websites focusing on Terri's fight can be found in thread 1, here.

Thanks to everyone for your contributions and for your dedication to this fight.

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Click on pic for Terri's Website.

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

FL_Engineer suggested that if you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

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Latest Threads On Terri's Case

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My apologies to (some of) the 'save Terri' posters here (a 'vanity' post)

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW - Schindlers Respond to Michael Schiavo's Larry King Love-Fest - PART1

Inside right-to-die case, a woman's real life (a few days old but not posted on first thread)

Michael Schiavo pleads case on CNN

What Should Happen With Terri S. (a "vanity" thread)

Schiavo lawyers challenge 'Terri's Law'


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: attorneyfromhell; daily; euthanasia; florida; forcesofevil; georgefelos; guardianfromhell; hino; merchantsofdeath; michaelschiavo; reallifeghouls; righttolife; schiavo; schindler; terri; terrischiavo
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To: tutstar
Sounds like Greer may have issues with women.
451 posted on 10/31/2003 6:57:56 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Snykerz
Michael can, as Terri's guardian, enter into lawsuits in her name. That's why he feels he has the authority to take away her feeding tube now. Here's the statute part that is applicable from the guardianship laws:

"(3) Rights that may be removed from a person by an order determining incapacity and which may be delegated to the guardian include the right:

(a) To contract.

(b) To sue and defend lawsuits.

(c) To apply for government benefits.

(d) To manage property or to make any gift or disposition of property.

(e) To determine his or her residence.

(f) To consent to medical and mental health treatment.

(g) To make decisions about his or her social environment or other social aspects of his or her life."
452 posted on 10/31/2003 6:58:38 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida
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To: TaxRelief
I almost can't stand what I am reading here. Surely I don't understand most of it...

taxrelief...is it possible that I have read here that terri's new doctor is named jerger and is related to the jerger that owns part of the insurance company wherein jodi, Michael's mistress, now works in Medical division having been promoted from office manager?

Did I get this right?

Is there ANYWAy to confirm this? To know that we have the right people?

And then Wolfson....a man who may have not only had sever financial problems (apparently the guardianship program in this county is state funded) but a man who has stated he is in Felo's realm when it comes to euthanasia?

Are these dots going where this thread has been leading...please set me straight!AND , if any of this is true.............DOES PAT ANDERSON KNOW ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!! my gosh....how do we inform her if it IS true! ?

453 posted on 10/31/2003 6:59:22 PM PST by Republic
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To: tutstar; dandelion; dixiegrrl
This is the second time the mobile home business has come up re: Terri's fight. That's what Jerger Insurance used to insure.

Now her current doctor just happens to be in the mobile home business? Do his mobile home customers leave their property to him in their Wills and use their living wills so that he can euthanize them? He would then make money both ways.

Per the local news, Wolfson is the guardian for medical. Once again, a Sixth Circuit Judge refuses to consider Terri's attorney's objections to Wolfson. Why you ask? Because if Terri's Law is ruled unconstitutional, Wolfson won't actually do anything anyway.

DOES THAT BOTHER ANYONE HERE AS MUCH AS IT BOTHERS ME? Was today's Judge showing a lack of impartiality by even bringing up whether Terri's Law is unconstitutional or not? Seems like that was JUDICIAL CARELESSNESS from the bench.

Who was the Judge today and does FELOS own him too?

454 posted on 10/31/2003 6:59:39 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: floriduh voter
Was it circuit court judge Demers? Hope so...I wrote a letter to him about it...
455 posted on 10/31/2003 7:03:10 PM PST by Republic
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To: Saundra Duffy
The Judge also said per local news that "the issue of bias won't be a factor because Jay Wolfson won't actually do anything if Terri's Law is declared unconstitutional." Don't you think that's outrageous? Kickin' Terri while she's doing well? Banking on Jeb's Order being overturned? The Judge himself showed bias today by even bringing up the constitutional issues. That wasn't his charge today!!!
456 posted on 10/31/2003 7:03:33 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: floriduh voter
Who was the judge?
457 posted on 10/31/2003 7:10:07 PM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: Lion in Winter
Dr. Gambone resigned last week but I haven't really checked him out at all. Maybe he developed a conscience or was threatened by Felos. Felos seems to own Pinellas County - judicial system and medical community. Makes it hard to sleep at night. How does a little pest get so much power and KEEP IT?
458 posted on 10/31/2003 7:10:47 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Glenn Woodworth was also a bureaucrat. I can't recall whether he served in Tallahassee or D.C. He's probably a buddy with Felos and THE SPANISH INQUISITION JUDGES IN PINELLAS COUNTY.
459 posted on 10/31/2003 7:13:10 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: floriduh voter
Well, I am broadcasting my wishes HERE and NOW, very publicly! If I am ever in such a situation, I do NOT want to be starved and dehydrated to death! It is NOT the same thing as being maintained artificially.

I am simply horrified by what our "system" is trying to do to this innocent woman....and all of it based on nothing but conveniently "remembered" hearsay testimony of a person with questionable motives (to say the least) and rapidly declining credibility and his family members that he got to vouch for him. I am thinking it is the judicial system we need to be pulling the "feeding tube" from, not Terri.

460 posted on 10/31/2003 7:13:42 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
>>They lived in an apartment. Were there stairs in the apartment?

I thought they might, given what Michael said to LK. But at this site http://www.thrownback.blogspot.com/ Terri's dad describes her as lying between bedroom and hallway, so I guess Michael was going "down" the hall. That begs another question. If he woke up and went out of the bedroom and down the hall to her, was she in a different bedroom than he was?
Not that this is going to matter in the long run. She had traumatic injuries and only Michael was there with her---and they'd been having marital trouble. That doesn't make it certain he hurt her, but it does make it obvious he shouldn't be guardian with the power to end her life on his say-so about her wishes.
And he won't say-so on a lie detector! Just when you think this thing couldn't stink more.
461 posted on 10/31/2003 7:15:33 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: Republic
The insurance company is defunct and even if they were still around, insurance companies don't have to keep their claim records for more than about five years. Seems silly but that's how it is. They toss em.
462 posted on 10/31/2003 7:15:49 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: floriduh voter
"The rule of law is more important than the right to life in Janet's world."

Yeah, well maybe Janet ought to think about that a little more carefully. She may just fall down one too many times and be the next case file in Greer's court.

463 posted on 10/31/2003 7:17:09 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Budge
Per Larry King Live, MS heard a "thud", (knew it was her) and "went to get her". He just happened to be up at the same time that he heard the "thud". But, he had already gone to bed having come home from the restaurant he worked late at. No wonder he won't take a lie detector test and Felos jumped in "Twenty judges have already been the ultimate lie detector." Oh, really, Felos? And ya think that we hold them in high regard? Their word means nothing if they're affirming Judge Greer, the executioner (I mean, the guardianship Judge). I STILL CANNOT COME TO TERMS WITH THE FACT THAT GUARDIANSHIPS ARE TO PROTECT THE PERSON AND THE PROPERTY, NOT STARVE AND DEHYDRATE THEM TO DEATH.

And the Judge today is banking on Jeb's Executive Order being overturned. IS THE FIX IN? Pinellas County Judges make me ashamed to be from Tampa Bay.

464 posted on 10/31/2003 7:22:50 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: Republic
"With Ken's passion for defending the sanctity of life and his proven legal talent, we can all be confident that Terri will be well-represented on her day in court."

IF he is given the opportunity to state his case! That seems to be a real problem in these Florida cases. The judges only allow in the information that THEY want to hear. Can't be having their rulings muddied up with facts.

465 posted on 10/31/2003 7:23:36 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: floriduh voter
As I understand it...the company jodi works (ed?) for is simply underwent a name change....that jerger remains part owner...could this dr jerger, who also has interest in mobile home insurance, be one and the same or a brother, whatever? The new name of the insurance company is listed here somewhere...and as for jodi..IF it is the jodi, who was an office manager for the jerger insurance and is now promoted to MEDICAL section....my gosh....if there were a link BETWEEN Jodi's boss and the doctor appointed by Felos, then this means Michael's mistress is connected to the doctor of her boyfriend's wife....the ONE they want killed.
466 posted on 10/31/2003 7:28:31 PM PST by Republic
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To: sarasmom
Florida not having a state income tax may seem like a good deal but, there's not much money to investigate diddly-squat. That's why many issues end up in civil court and theose Judges rule against the parties who requested an investigation in the first place. It's a lose, lose proposition. The bad guys run Florida at the moment because it's cheaper for bureaucrats to look the other way.
467 posted on 10/31/2003 7:29:21 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: tutstar
IMO, something happened before the "thud". That's why Michael won't take a liar detector test. Maybe the thud was unexpected because he thought he'd already taken care of her? After the thud, he had to act like a good husband... But, not before.
468 posted on 10/31/2003 7:36:30 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; MelBelle
It is very discouraging, I know, when you know the truth and you set out to inform others. My experience, in this case, has been that the people I talk to had no idea that they were being misled about what was actually wrong with Terri. On the other hand, it is very disheartening when you see that something is very wrong and that if the wrong isn't set right that there could be grave consequences, and you set out to right that wrong, thinking that if the people only knew the truth they would choose to do what is right, only to discover that they won't hear you. They ignore our voices at their own peril. When I become discouraged by the seemingly overwhelming odds against Terri and against those of us who have sought to be her voice against the forces that have come against her, I am reminded of this passage from Ezekial and I know that I am doing what I am supposed to do. I can do no less nor more, other than to put my faith in the One who is the defender of the innocent.
'If I bring a sword upon a land, and the people of the land take one man from among them and make him their watchman, and he sees the sword coming upon the land and blows on the trumpet and warns the people, then he who hears the sound of the trumpet and does not take warning, and a sword comes and takes him away, his blood will be on his {own} head. 'He heard the sound of the trumpet but did not take warning; his blood will be on himself. But had he taken warning, he would have delivered his life. 'But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet and the people are not warned, and a sword comes and takes a person from them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood I will require from the watchman's hand.' (Exek. 33:2b-6)

469 posted on 10/31/2003 7:40:12 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: trussell
George Greer - divorced three times. George Felos - divorced 2 or 3 times. I think Greer's first divorce was a messy one - that's how he became familiarized with non-custodial parents because he was one. I think his first ex-wife socked it to him good. I wonder if he's ordered any men to be starved-dehydrated to death. Probably only if the had a living will. They want to murder Terri because she had no living will. THE PERFECT CLIENT BECAUSE SHE CANNOT SPEAK.

Our very existence shouldn't hinge on a failure to put something in writing.

470 posted on 10/31/2003 7:42:43 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: sweetliberty
"My experience, in this case, has been that the people I talk to had no idea that they were being misled about what was actually wrong with Terri"


You can say that again. I was talking w/a friend in the grocery store parking lot and this subject came up. She only knew what she'd heard on the alphabet soup networks. She thought Terri had a heart attack, was in a coma and brain dead and thus figured her parents were just having a hard time letting go. Once I told her some background and Terri's actual condition, she was aghast that the media would lie and distort this woman's condition so. I have replayed this scene over and over again with other friends as well. The deliberate misinformation that the major media is putting out is, in my opinion, nothing short of accomplices to murder.
471 posted on 10/31/2003 7:44:40 PM PST by PeyersPatches (I have intestinal fortitude)
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To: Republic
"Terr's parents will be on Pat Robertson's 700 club tomorrow, Friday"

I forgot! Is it too late to catch it? Did anybody see it? Transcript?

472 posted on 10/31/2003 7:45:07 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: syriacus
Woodworth was also a bureaucrat. He probably knew Attorney Felos and when he was done using Terri as a pawn, handed her over to Felos.
473 posted on 10/31/2003 7:45:37 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: PeyersPatches
" I have replayed this scene over and over again with other friends as well."

As have I, and I have yet to see one person who didn't do a complete turn around given a few more of the facts. You're right about the media. They are contemptible.

474 posted on 10/31/2003 7:48:23 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Graymatter
How did he happen to know that he needed to "go get her"? Most people who hear someone in the house usually first yell out "Are you okay, Terri?", etc. But, he knew she was at point B after he heard a thud. Did he cause her to get to point B? He was awfully certain of the need to go get her and that she was at point B but why didn't he yell out "Terri? Are you allright?"

Because he knew she wasn't allright? That was the key part of the LKL interview IMO. HOW DID HE KNOW THE THUD WAS TERRI? This also disturbs me.

475 posted on 10/31/2003 7:51:10 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: mickie
Faldwell is on right now. Maybe Pat R. will be on shortly? There's so much Halloween stuff on tonight.
476 posted on 10/31/2003 7:54:56 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: Republic
Terri's new doctor is a Stan Tropodis, or something like that. Not Jerger to my knowledge. Either way, it is still troubling that if Tropodis does own a mobile home business, that's still tied closely to Michael's business partner, Richard Jerger, whom Jodi worked for. Jerger used to be in the mobile home insurance business. I don't know, this whole thing stinks to high heaven. I'm praying that the one investigating agency with clout (can't remember what the name was) will turn something up and SOON! I'm beginning to feel helpless again.
477 posted on 10/31/2003 7:55:14 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida
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To: pollywog
A lot of the numbers in your 248 could care less. Maybe the Internal Affairs number would prove useful. Demers seems like he's hoping for Jeb's Order and Terri's law to be overturned. Welcome to Pinellas County, death without due process. Death even if it's not your time.
478 posted on 10/31/2003 7:57:35 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: lonevoice
I know I have mentioned this on another thread, but the controlling issue and using weight as a weapon really rings true here. When I was 20, I was in such a relationship. I was always very sensitive about my weight, but it was more in my mind than it was an actual problem. It seemed that anytime I would entertain thoughts of ending the relationship (which was often), he would hit me with such remarks about how I was so fat that nobody else would have me. At the time I weighed 99 pounds (I am 5'1"). I sometimes had to buy pants in the children's department...and yet, he had a real talent for getting me so down on myself that it took the attention off getting away from him, at least temporarily. One thing I can say is that any female who has ever made the mistake of getting involved with such a man and gotten out, can spot the type a mile away. Michael Schiavo is the type!
479 posted on 10/31/2003 8:00:20 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
...and all of it based on nothing but conveniently "remembered" hearsay testimony of a person with questionable motives...

You know what? You pinned the thing in one sentence. I just spent too much time reading Felos' petition to the FSC from a couple of years ago, asking for a motion to stay Judge Quesada's order to replace Terri's tube. Felos is diabolically clever. He isn't interested in Terri Schindler, the human being. To him, PVS is just a convenient diagnosis to underpin his case, which is: Terri's "right-to-refuse" medical treatment (right-to-die) is being violated by the feeding tube. She would never want to "live like this" because Schiavo said so. This is the clear and convincing evidence needed to end a life? Hearsay testimony?

I read somewhere the strength of a people can be measured by how they treat the vulnerable and weak among them. If this court sanctioned murder of Terri Schindler really goes through, then what sort of people are we?

480 posted on 10/31/2003 8:01:05 PM PST by keri
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To: Republic
If the new doctor is a "Jerger," I don't think there is any doubt that this is a Schiavo puppet. Yes, the dots are leading back to death for Terri. The legislature and governor will be shown as ineffectual in FL -- all the real power has been delegated to the judiciary. What a horrible Halloween discovery!

I tell you there is MONEY here in ways that no one can now anticipate!
481 posted on 10/31/2003 8:02:52 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: sweetliberty
One thing I can say is that any female who has ever made the mistake of getting involved with such a man and gotten out, can spot the type a mile away. Michael Schiavo is the type!

That is a fact!

482 posted on 10/31/2003 8:05:58 PM PST by JustPiper (RIP Freeper Lynne - God loves you! You are our angel now!)
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To: tutstar; phenn; Drk4The1; pc93; dixiegrrl; dandelion
You made an excellent point. If Felos claims BIAS, the GAL is thrown out. If Terri's counsel claims BIAS, they are denied while Judge Demers puts his money on the Executive Order/Terri's Law being overturned.

I think his statements regarding the declaratory action show BIAS by Judge Demers. DOUBLE STANDARD COULD BE USEFUL ON APPEAL...

It's now on the record that Demers is awaiting the constitional decision instead of ruling on the matter at hand standing alone. He indicated that Wolfson may never have to make any decisions regarding Terri's care. WHY, WHY, WHY? DOES JUDGE DEMERS HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL or did he borrow Stetson Law College's?

483 posted on 10/31/2003 8:06:47 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: floriduh voter
So what is George W. Greer doing in this conservative Baptist church? Why is he not excommunicated? I had read on one thread that the church had urged that Terri be spared. I suspect that Greer may not be attending service at this time.
484 posted on 10/31/2003 8:07:58 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: sweetliberty; Ethan_Allen; Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; ...
Please contact me if you have documents that you would like to post but do not trust the source file to stay online. I have webspace/bandwidth available for any Terri related files and will happily upload to my webspace and provide you the link for posting purposes.
485 posted on 10/31/2003 8:08:13 PM PST by WackySam ("There's room for all God's creatures- right next to the taters")
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To: floriduh voter
Is Demers another of these Pinellas Co. "Republicans" or what?
486 posted on 10/31/2003 8:09:06 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: syriacus
Maybe you better send your post re: the St. Pete Times to terrisfight.org. Statements from the article conflict with what MS said on Larry King Live the other night. A side by side comparison with the transcript of LKL may be useful. If their mailboxes are full, keep trying.
487 posted on 10/31/2003 8:10:15 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: keri
I read somewhere the strength of a people can be measured by how they treat the vulnerable and weak among them

A statement to that effect was coined by the late Vice President Hubert Humphrey.
488 posted on 10/31/2003 8:10:32 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: floriduh voter
Does the "constitutional decision" come from Greer, the appeals court, for the Supreme Court? Does it not start out at the lower court and wind up at the Supreme Court in Tallahassee?
489 posted on 10/31/2003 8:11:39 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: tutstar; Drk4The1; dandelion; pc93; cyn
I hope you try to send the new corporate stuff to terrisfight.org. Sarasota Corporations may be new info. If the mailbox is full, keep trying.
490 posted on 10/31/2003 8:14:29 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
We can't interview the Schindlers. But, they'll be on Larry King Live next Thursday night thanks to tons of freepmails from FR.
491 posted on 10/31/2003 8:17:16 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: pollywog
I can't say my name but if you communicate with Terrishope again, I vigiled alot with terrishope. Tell her hi from a vigiler. Pop Schindler would like us to re-vigil. I'm thinking about making a sign stating "Terri's Angels" and keeping it in my car so I can stop by while I'm out doing stuff. It's hard to keep up what we did the first two weeks. It must be hard to bond with over 500 people and then people needed to take care of their stuff.

If anyone can re-vigil on Saturday or Sunday, that would be great. Just call the phone number for Hospice Woodside and ask for the address. Hospice isn't as combative as they were week one and two. The Schindler's enjoy the support and our company. It's hard to spend every day in a parking lot waiting for good news. That is the scene.

492 posted on 10/31/2003 8:29:18 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: floriduh voter
I have been working almost the entire day. Just now reading the posts to see what has happened today.
I guess the 700 Club is over now....what channel was it on?
493 posted on 10/31/2003 8:29:30 PM PST by mickie
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To: sweetliberty; All
Sweetliberty, ALL

You can still watch via their website.
http://cbn.com/ It is the first segment. Folks you may be interested in watching the second segment too. It describes historically how we arrrived where we are judicially.

I also recommend Francis Schaeffer series, "How Should We Then Live". In video or book form. An incredible historian and theolgian of the 20th century. 2 decades ago looked down the hall of our American ways and by the grace of God saw what we are seeing here today.

Be blessed!

494 posted on 10/31/2003 8:31:55 PM PST by 4Godsoloved..Hegave (Mat 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink:)
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To: 4Godsoloved..Hegave; Drk4The1; phenn; dandelion; dixiegrrl; tutstar
Post 278. The implant was a success? Not per MS on Larry King Live the other night.
495 posted on 10/31/2003 8:33:09 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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To: pollywog
"Never , in my life have I been more involved in a grassroots effort than this!"

Same here Polly, and I have to reluctantly confess that if we lose this fight for Terri, if Terri loses this fight, I'm not sure I could ever put my heart and soul so much into such an effort again.

What I saw with the legislature in Florida really gave me hope. Seeing all the people fighting for Terri restored my faith in Americans. If all should be lost because the court holds the trump card, I will completely lose faith that our form of government can be redeemed. If the voice of the people is removed and the legislators aren't allowed to legislate nor the executive to order, then our constitutional republic has failed and we are at the mercy of a tyrannical judiciary that is blind to both justice and mercy.

"Lord, I believe. Help my unbelief!" (Mk. 9:24)

496 posted on 10/31/2003 8:33:12 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Theodore R.
>>>...If the new doctor is a Jerger...

I can't find a listing for any Dr. Jerger in Florida. For that matter, "Jerger M.D." yields nobody living---anywhere.
497 posted on 10/31/2003 8:35:57 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: sweetliberty
Sweet? Did you see this good news? It is a PDF!

Jay Wolfson Appointed as Guardian despite objections

498 posted on 10/31/2003 8:38:17 PM PST by JustPiper (RIP Freeper Lynne - God loves you! You are our angel now!)
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To: pollywog; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; dandelion; PleaseNoMore; ...
Professor Appointed to Probe Schiavo Case

Terri's Army Ping!

If you want on or off this ping list, please let me know.

499 posted on 10/31/2003 8:38:39 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If my life was solely based on eating, I'd weigh 700 pounds. Food is not medical treatment. That is what's wrong with Florida's exit protocols. Food should not be defined as medical treatment. Put anybody in a guarded room with no food or water and see what happens. Not natural causes as spun by that Felos fellow.
500 posted on 10/31/2003 8:40:30 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at baynews9.com...conservative-spirit.org Visit a Local Site)
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