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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) October 30-31, 2003
Various | October 30, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 10/30/2003 10:27:17 AM PST by sweetliberty

(Daily Thread 2 - October 30-31, 2003)
Link back to thread 1 - October 29, 2003

Contained in thread 1:

Summary of Terri's bone scan, transcript from "On the Record" response from Bobby Schindler and Attny. Pat Anderson to Michael Schiavo's appearance on Larry King Live, link to where to search public records for Pinellas County (for a fee), information on Terri's Lights, link to transcript from Larry King Live interview with Michael Schiavo and George Felos, synopsis of radio interview with Michael Schiavo's brother in Pennsylvania, summary of interview with Pat Anderson on Michael Reagan's show, portion of testimony from Schiavo medical malpractice trial, some links to information on the Florida death cult, names and email address for the Florida Supreme Court, information on previous GAL, Richard Pearse, Jr., information on GAL currently being proposed Jay Wolfson and links back to earlier threads on the case. Of course this overview isn't comprehensive, but my main point in this section is to provide easy reference to what could be important information. Also, links to other websites focusing on Terri's fight can be found in thread 1, here.

Thanks to everyone for your contributions and for your dedication to this fight.


Click on pic for Terri's Website.


This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

FL_Engineer suggested that if you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.


Latest Threads On Terri's Case


My apologies to (some of) the 'save Terri' posters here (a 'vanity' post)

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW - Schindlers Respond to Michael Schiavo's Larry King Love-Fest - PART1

Inside right-to-die case, a woman's real life (a few days old but not posted on first thread)

Michael Schiavo pleads case on CNN

What Should Happen With Terri S. (a "vanity" thread)

Schiavo lawyers challenge 'Terri's Law'

TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: attorneyfromhell; daily; euthanasia; florida; forcesofevil; georgefelos; guardianfromhell; hino; merchantsofdeath; michaelschiavo; reallifeghouls; righttolife; schiavo; schindler; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Krodg
So, why is Schiavo's previous starvation of his parents never discussed? The Schindlers never mention this in their brief TV appearances. I wonder how much insurance Schiavo collected from the parents.
541 posted on 10/31/2003 9:49:32 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: floriduh voter
I tried to stay out of the Schindlers way, when I was at the vigil.I wanted to show my support for Terri, but I did not want to intrude upon her family.

I know how much time you spent there, and I am willing to spend some time there this weekend, if it truly helps them continue to cope with this nightmare.

I want to help, but I dont want to be another burden the family is forced to assess and deal with, since I am but a friendly stranger, who wishes them well, and supports them.
542 posted on 10/31/2003 9:49:32 PM PST by sarasmom (Pray for TerriSchiavo. Everything I post is my opinion, unless otherwise stipulated.)
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To: Republic
And, what if the insurance company WAS PAYING Jodi's mom to guard Terri in her room while they were starving her last week? Or even paying Jodi herself?

Did you know that Terri's keepers were putting heavy blankets on Terri up to her head. She started running a temp early on and then having not had a drop of water for six days was taking its toll by the Monday before last. She was shutting down. That was the only thing Felos told the truth about. Yes, her kidneys were shutting down. "How dare Jeb Bush drag her from her death bed? The death process must begin again." The compassionate words of George Felos in a lengthy press conference last week. Maybe there's a transcript on

FELOS HAS HIS OWN VOLUNTEERS. How fun must being evil for free be?

543 posted on 10/31/2003 9:55:59 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at Visit a Local Site)
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To: sarasmom
From here on out, I'm having a sign that says "Terri's Angels". I can't do 24/7s but we caught a press conference the other day we were unaware of until we got there. That's when I've learned the most about Terri.

But, back at the tv studios and radio stations, there's a whole lot of snipping going on. The media is trying to be fair and balanced with good vs. evil. Go figure.

544 posted on 10/31/2003 10:11:28 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at Visit a Local Site)
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To: 4Godsoloved..Hegave
Thanks. I watched it. I loved the way it was reported.....Terry's husband wants her dead. At least one network tells it like it is.
545 posted on 10/31/2003 10:20:54 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
Ping !!
546 posted on 10/31/2003 10:22:55 PM PST by Dustbunny
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To: pc93
Well, even though Wolfson is the GAL now, the silver lining is that Demers didn't grant MS's request to delay the GAL appointment until the constitutional issues get wrangled out, which could take who knows how long. All the GAL can do is probe and advise to both the court and Jeb. He can't order squat.
547 posted on 10/31/2003 10:46:16 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: mommy23
but a speech pathologist later determined she could not be rehabilitated enough to swallow.

Huh? Talking is not swallowing or vice versa.

548 posted on 10/31/2003 10:49:45 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: floriduh voter
His mom was AGAINST Terri being starved-dehydrated to death. I wonder if she was starved-dehydrated herself but she had a terminal illness so maybe she just quit eating naturally towards the end.

Maybe "Clara, she" did hold food and H2O in low regard,can't say. But from the many folks I have cared for during their last breaths including my Mom, they always asked for something to be put in their mouths if they were able to.

Just because someone can't ask for it, I will never agree that they don't desire it. And those that couldn't ask, well I always assumed they wanted it and never had a problem with them receiving those offerings.

Great job Floriduh voter down there in Tampa Bay! If we can make the trip down from LA I will give you a heads up.

549 posted on 10/31/2003 10:50:18 PM PST by 4Godsoloved..Hegave (Mat 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink:)
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To: All
Jay Wolfson, Dr.P.H., J.D
Environmental and Occupational Health
B.A., History,University of Illinois, Chicago 1973
M.A., History, New York University, 1974
M.P.H., Community Health Administration,
Indiana University, Bloomington 1975
Dr. P.H., Health Services Organizations,
University of Texas, Houston 1981
J.D., Law, Stetson University College of Law 1993

Wolfson the Guardian Ad Litium (sp?) is not even an M.D. a Medical Doctor
M.P.H is Masters Degree in Public Health, the "administration" of health
His P.h.D is again aobut healthcare Organizations, and then he is a Lawyer.

This is the guy who is going to determin if Terri can be re-habilitated? This is a guy who makes his living by being published. in acedemia it is publish or perish. If we all get on this we should be able to come up with some pre-disposition on his part. Just Google his name. I will work up this link -

My father is an M.P.H [side joke. I was a little kid when my dad got his M.P.H. from Berkley, and everytime we would see a speed limit sigh=n 35MPH we would shout out Masters of Public Health!!] My dad recently ws awarded the equivenent of the "Lifetime Achievment Award" from the American Public Health Association, I'm sure you have all heard of it. My dad was President of the APHA etc. So you can imagine my surproise when I looked at Wolfson's credentials and I'm sitting here realizing that his credentials on the face of it are not at all suited to the Gaurdian Ad Litim (again sp) responsibilites. I don't know about you but I jsut assumed he was an M.D.

I am with others who strongly feel that the money is the key. It was what brought down Nixon. Ben Bradley said "follow the money" and that is what I think we should be doing. I doubt if Wolfson has a money connection, but those other doctors and the Judges.

Oh another thing, why did the judge pick Wolfson? My dad was again a Nationally recognized consultant after he retired, actually he did a LOT of work in Florida, and he got his jobs by referral. Judges don't spend a lot of time to research and find the "best" candidates as the "exerts". They makse a few phone calls and it is who you know. Somehow there is a connection between the Judge who selected Wolfson and the Judge.

Sorry to brag so much about my dad but when I saw the M.P.H. I thought my personal background would have value. I'm going to work on Jay and I hope others follow. If we can find bias we need to dig theat up and sent it to Terri's lawyer. This could be used in an appeal. The guy isn't even an M.D. for crying out loud.

Just go to Google and typ in his name. Again I am already covering
550 posted on 10/31/2003 10:51:11 PM PST by Lone Voice in the hinterlands
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To: floriduh voter
George Greer - divorced three times.

This alone ought to be enough reason to disqualify him for sitting on cases where marital matters do or could have an impact. Michael cheating on Terri? NO PROBLEMO!

551 posted on 10/31/2003 10:58:31 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: floriduh voter
They brought Terri's brain scans to that press conference which were quite different than the one scan held up by Felos on Larry King Live the other night.

I'll just bet they were.

552 posted on 10/31/2003 11:00:08 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: sweetliberty
It seemed that anytime I would entertain thoughts of ending the relationship (which was often), he would hit me with such remarks about how I was so fat that nobody else would have me. At the time I weighed 99 pounds (I am 5'1"). I sometimes had to buy pants in the children's department...and yet, he had a real talent for getting me so down on myself that it took the attention off getting away from him, at least temporarily. One thing I can say is that any female who has ever made the mistake of getting involved with such a man and gotten out, can spot the type a mile away. Michael Schiavo is the type!

What a cruel loser was that boyfiend [sic].

553 posted on 10/31/2003 11:02:08 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
but a speech pathologist later determined she could not be rehabilitated enough to swallow.

Huh? Talking is not swallowing or vice versa.

Speech pathologists work with feeding issues as well as speech. Not unusual.
Either is the findings of that result. Everyone in the Felos camp has Terri dead and incapable of anything.


554 posted on 10/31/2003 11:04:08 PM PST by 4Godsoloved..Hegave (Mat 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink:)
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To: tutstar; 4Godsoloved..Hegave
Hi, tutstar -- for the record -- that was initially posted by 4Godsoloved..Hegave at #278 and pinged me . I just repeated it and have had it on my mind ever since.

Thanks SO much for the ping, 4God -- keep it up, there's so much to be brought to light. I just don't understand why it wasn't shouted earlier.

For example, WHY did the St. Pete paper repeatly use the word "coma" to describe a woman who looked like THIS? (1990, St. Pete Times):

and THIS (date unknown, early 90's) and THIS? (2002):

555 posted on 10/31/2003 11:11:43 PM PST by cyn (
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To: sweetliberty
I too tend to think that the time for any faith in our current government has passed and that Terri's death if it happens may just be the Dread Scott descision that brings about CWII.
556 posted on 10/31/2003 11:12:50 PM PST by Coral Snake (deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
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To: Saundra Duffy; phenn
I know! I know! That's what I wonder, too. Has anyone asked? Surely can't be oblivious to Terri's situation now!
557 posted on 10/31/2003 11:13:49 PM PST by cyn (
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To: 4Godsoloved..Hegave
well, HI there! Thanks so much (again) for pinging me to that post yesterday. Like others, I plan to put together to send off.

The pictures above are further proof that felos' camp is oh-so-wrong. At what point will they become afraid, as the truth comes out? It SHOULD have happened 10 yrs ago.
558 posted on 10/31/2003 11:18:28 PM PST by cyn (
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To: WackySam
thank you! I just spent some time today reading up more on our capabilities w/new setup. Archives are crucial -- for proof, just see the above pictures!

We need to always keep URL with our snippets so others can confirm & put w/other info -- note to self, as info piles up!
559 posted on 10/31/2003 11:23:41 PM PST by cyn (
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To: texasbluebell; All; Ragtime Cowgirl; pc93; EternalVigilance; nutmeg; PhiKapMom; summer; ...
Please ping your lists to this post. FAMILY FRIENDS MEMO TO TERRI'S SUPPORTERS:

10/31/2003, All Hallows' Eve, Evening Prayer Vigils Resume

As you know, Mr. Schindler profoundly believes that as a result of your prayers, Terri is still with us today. Currently, legal proceedings have begun for Mr. and Mrs. Schindlers' fight for guardianship of Terri. In addition, the Schindlers are fighting Attorney George Felos' attempt to challenge the constitutionality of Terri's Law. The American Center for Law and Justice is joining the Schindler family and their local attorney in this regard and wish to uphold Terri's Law. We are very encouraged by this!

Many calls have been received by the public asking, "What is going on now?" and "What can we do?" Prayer is the most powerful weapon we have in the battle for Terri's life. Please continue to pray, and if you are able, visit the site of the vigil once again. Many of us are peacefully lighting candles at dusk Friday, Saturday, and Sunday evenings each week to pray for both Terri's healing and for her protection. This prayer has given this fight for Terri's life the momentum it gravely needed. We are asking for your perpetual support. Please tell all your friends, church members, prayer groups, sports teams, class mates, and families that we need your help. Terri cannot speak for herself yet and it seems that the siege is just beginning after thirteen long years.

The location of the hospice vigils is 6774 102nd Avenue North, Pinellas Park, Florida.

Mr. and Mrs. Schindler will be on Larry King next Thursday. We don't believe the official release has been given on this, but stay tuned for further updates. This is the best information we have at this point.

On behalf of Terri and her family, thank you and God bless you.

Many blessings, Friends of Terri

FV: Ditto re: Pops Schindler

560 posted on 10/31/2003 11:24:49 PM PST by floriduh voter (Breaking at Visit a Local Site)
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