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Vote "NO" on Ohio Issue 1
Ohio Taxpayers Accociation ^ | 23oct2003 | Diane fessler

Posted on 10/30/2003 10:35:48 AM PST by North Coast Conservative

VOTE “NO” ON ISSUE 1

Ohioans have the opportunity to vote against the expansion of Governor Taft’s transforming economic development plan, Issue 1, also known as the Third Frontier.

A frontier, according to Webster, is a new field for exploitive or developmental activity. The first frontier was taming the wilderness, the second, the industrial frontier according to some, or the exploration of outer space according to others.

For central planners to put the transformation of our economy on par with those frontiers is fair warning that Issue 1 is a big deal.

Proponents say it will create jobs (as though that was a legitimate function of government), but research indicates otherwise. A study of 366 Ohio companies that launched major expansions between 1993 and 1995 reveals that economic development incentives have very little (or even a negative) effect on actual job growth. Findings suggest that companies that receive tax incentives overestimate the potential of new jobs more than those companies that do not get incentives (Journal of Regional Science, Issue 4, 2002).

Issue 1 is definitely an incentive – an incentive for the chosen few but at the expense of the many. It calls for passage of a 10-year, $500 million bond issue backed by the full faith and credit of the state – meaning our tax dollars. Issue 1 is an end-run around Ohio’s constitutional 5% cap on debt service. That cap limits state borrowing. Current exceptions to the cap include justifiable spending for critical needs, such as to repel invasion, suppress insurrection, or defend the state during war.

The precise amount of the Issue 1 related debt is unknown, but taxpayers already spend $1B on state-generated debt service each year. If Issue 1 passes, that figure will jump even higher. If the interest rate is 4%, interest payments will total $225M, for a total cost of $725M - money that will be due after the so-called temporary sales tax expires. Policy Matters in Ohio reports that “substantial increases in debt will be difficult to sustain if the recent increase in the sales tax is allowed to expire as planned, and no alternative revenues are found.” Accordingly, to imply that taxes won’t be raised is disingenuous. It’s also important to remember that because payment of debt service takes precedence over spending for discretionary programs, many deserving programs are apt to get displaced.

Ohio’s Third Frontier is a multi-phase plan to link businesses with universities. One of the stated goals is to pay operating expenses such as salaries and expenses for research activities, secretarial support, conferences, meetings, and related travel.

It is fully expected that universities, researchers, professors, and businesses which have had their work underwritten by taxpayers will “commercialize” their products. That means they will make a profit when their subsidized products hit the market, giving them an unfair competitive advantage in the marketplace. The Third Frontier is a slick plan to funnel corporate welfare to the chosen few. The obvious question is: How will non-subsidized companies be able to compete?

Proponents budgeted $3M to persuade voters to support Issue 1. Where is the “get-out-the-vote” money coming from? Well, there is no prohibition on donations to the campaign from corporations that may later receive Third Frontier money, so it is conceivable that wanna-be recipients of tax credits and grants are ponying up the money.

Our economy is based on a free-market system. Economic decisions are supposed to be made by producers and consumers, not the government. Any transforming move away from capitalism is, by default, a move toward some other ism – for example, socialism, a planned economy where economic decisions are made by those affiliated with the government; in the case of Issue 1, three governor appointees.

Passage will abolish a 156-year-old ban against government being a stockholder in private businesses. Yes, the state already gives grants to businesses (a topic for another day), but those grants are not for operating expenses. In addition, the money comes from existing revenue and it is generally limited to capital improvements.

Be forewarned, Issue 1 is a vehicle to lift the cap on excessive state borrowing, promote unfair competition, transform our economic system, and lift the ban on government being a stockholder in private businesses.

Certainly there is no merit in saddling ourselves or our children with debt for the next 29 years (when the last payment comes due) especially when there will be nothing concrete to show for it. I encourage you to join me in voting “No” on Issue 1.

------------ Diana Fessler represents Miami County and a portion of Darke County. E-mail: diana.fessler@ohr.state.oh.us


TOPICS: Announcements; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: corpwelfare; election; fessler; issue1; ohio; taxes
With legislation like this being sponsored by so-called Republicans the Democrats don't need to elect their own.

…..Semper Fi

1 posted on 10/30/2003 10:35:48 AM PST by North Coast Conservative
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To: 88keys; Akron Al; babyface00; Badray; Bikers4Bush; boxerblues; Captiva; Commiewatcher; ...
NEOhio Bump.

Everybody is going to the polls on Tuesday, right?

In God We Trust…..Semper Fi

2 posted on 10/30/2003 10:38:12 AM PST by North Coast Conservative (never take a gun to a gunfight that doesn't start with at least .40 cal)
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To: conspiratoristo
Governor Boob Taxt being in favor of it is reason enough for me to vote against it. Besides, once these companies exhaust all of this free money, they will do what a lot of others do...move to another state that isn't as hostile to business.
3 posted on 10/30/2003 10:47:18 AM PST by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: conspiratoristo
bump
4 posted on 10/30/2003 11:05:36 AM PST by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: conspiratoristo
Everybody is going to the polls on Tuesday, right?

Yes sir, I am. Anything that is for "economic development" is a definite NO vote for me.

5 posted on 10/30/2003 11:17:53 AM PST by MissTargets (can't eat 'em, but love to shoot 'em)
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To: conspiratoristo

Gov. Trough does know how to spend our
money much better than us dumb Buckeyes!
6 posted on 10/30/2003 11:26:55 AM PST by happydogdesign
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To: happydogdesign
There was a commercial for this and it said this bill WILL bring in more jobs..... later it said "80" new jobs...
7 posted on 10/30/2003 11:30:29 AM PST by smith288 ((( ‹(•¿•)› )))
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To: smith288
And those 80 new jobs will be for the people working for the office that doles out the money. This turd needs to be flushed with the voters standing over the bowl with a big plunger to make sure that the toilet doesn't clog.
8 posted on 10/30/2003 12:15:46 PM PST by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: conspiratoristo
I always vote - it's your official license to bitch. If you don't vote you can't bitch. I don't want the government to be stockholders in the private sector or give them any more power to pick and choose industries. Definite NO on Issue 1.
9 posted on 10/31/2003 6:25:37 AM PST by Commiewatcher
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To: Orangedog
Governor Boob Taxt being in favor of it is reason enough for me to vote against it.

Amen! That, and it's opposed by the Buckeye Institute (a conservative Ohio-based think tank similar to the Heritage Fdn. or the Cato Inst.) on the grounds that it allows government to "pick" winners and losers in the economy—robbing some industries to incentivise others. Issue 1 is also opposed by Ohio's LARGEST industry association, the Farm Bureau.

More than enough to convince me it's worth defeating next Tuesday!

10 posted on 10/31/2003 7:06:09 AM PST by TonyRo76
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To: conspiratoristo
I really don't understand it. The state is ranked one of the worst in the country for business "climate", which I guess means there are disincentives to doing business here (taxes, workman's comp, regulations, etc.). Why not focus on relieving some of that burden instead of spending taxpayer dollars to help a few out? Business tends to go where it's welcome and if they'd just concentrate more on being helpful on that score, they'd eliminate the need for taxpayer dollars, which will probably result in an increase in bureaucracy anyway. Simpler is often better.
11 posted on 10/31/2003 12:31:27 PM PST by chimera
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To: conspiratoristo
I am going to the polls specifically to vote down this issue.
12 posted on 10/31/2003 12:33:56 PM PST by carton253 (To win the War on Terror, raise at once the black flag!)
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To: smith288
New jobs and no taxes was the ad I heard.
13 posted on 10/31/2003 12:34:57 PM PST by carton253 (To win the War on Terror, raise at once the black flag!)
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To: carton253
New jobs and no increase in taxes was the ad I heard...
14 posted on 10/31/2003 12:35:27 PM PST by carton253 (To win the War on Terror, raise at once the black flag!)
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To: carton253; conspiratoristo
New jobs and no increase in taxes was the ad I heard...

Yeah, it’s the old bate and switch routine. Except you usually get this type of con job from the dims.

The precise amount of the Issue 1 related debt is unknown, but taxpayers already spend $1B on state-generated debt service each year. If Issue 1 passes, that figure will jump even higher. If the interest rate is 4%, interest payments will total $225M, for a total cost of $725M - money that will be due after the so-called temporary sales tax expires.

It will take an a lot of new high paying jobs to generate enough money to pay off that kind of debt.

Why is it that politician love to spend other people’s money so much that they so easily are willing to sell their honor for the pleasure?

Is it some kind of addiction?

15 posted on 10/31/2003 5:59:46 PM PST by Pontiac
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To: carton253
and we should believe it why??? afterall, he raised the sales tax and taxes on services. if a democrat raised taxes like that, there would be a recall or at least some hoopla. instead, nobody says anything. what is up?
16 posted on 11/01/2003 11:21:44 PM PST by boiledfishlips
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To: boiledfishlips
I'm saying something... I'm saying NO!
17 posted on 11/02/2003 1:33:54 PM PST by carton253 (To win the War on Terror, raise at once the black flag!)
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To: Pontiac
Is there any 'real' conservatives out there who has the grit to run for office? Can we recall taft? And voinovich? And? :-)We need an OhioTeaParty
18 posted on 11/03/2003 8:19:39 AM PST by OldCrobbit
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To: OldCrobbit
Is there any 'real' conservatives out there who has the grit to run for office?

Ken Blackwell. He's about the only Republican in statewide office with any kind of cajones. I even voted for him to be guv in '98 and '02...and in '06 many Ohioans have a realistic hope he will actually have a shot at governor!

19 posted on 11/03/2003 9:47:36 AM PST by TonyRo76 (Anything important enough to be said, is important enough to say in English!)
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To: chimera
The state is ranked one of the worst in the country for business "climate", which I guess means there are disincentives to doing business here (taxes, workman's comp, regulations, etc.).

It is one of the worst places in the country for business, and for just the reasons you stated. Regulations are a nightmare. Taxes and fees for start-ups are a crushing burden, and our Workers' Comp...uh, now that's a quagmire!

My dad started up a business years ago with a partner who was based in Illinois. Once they had looked at the options and done a cost analysis, the choice of IL as the company's home base was a no-brainer. Ohio would've been almost impossible!

20 posted on 11/03/2003 9:51:57 AM PST by TonyRo76 (Anything important enough to be said, is important enough to say in English!)
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To: conspiratoristo
Issue one should be voted down but it won't be because those do not pay taxes will vote for it. RE: section 8.

Jim Kelley
21 posted on 11/04/2003 11:29:03 AM PST by jrkelley
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To: conspiratoristo
Ohio: State Issue 1
Precincts Reporting: 100 percent

No 1,220,685 51%
Yes 1,173,250 49%

LAST UPDATED: Nov-05-2003 08:28 AM EST

WOO-HOOOOOOO!!!!!

22 posted on 11/05/2003 5:30:51 AM PST by TonyRo76
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To: TonyRo76; 88keys; Akron Al; babyface00; Badray; Bikers4Bush; boxerblues; Captiva; Commiewatcher; ...
I am relieved this morning, but I was sweating this issue because:

1)Many Ohioans just don't give a damn. They are ignorant of what is going on, and really don't want to know. I found this out when running for city council four years ago and was knocking on doors.

2) They don't have any idea of the proper place or function of government, so they don't understand what the Beltway Cretins should or should not be doing.

3) Many can't see into the future to extrapolate what happens to taxes and business if/when the issue at hand does not pan out, the jobs do not materialize to drive tax revenues through the roof, and the bonds have to be paid back to the lenders. Why are my taxes going up? I don't understand.

The answer is education, plain and simple. And we are the professors.

Let me plug this great organization, and ask everyone to go here:

Link to OTA to read up, and possibly join.

The big push next year should be for a Tax and Expenditure Limitation Amendment to the Ohio Constitution, and I ask that you all help me in supporting this with your state reps and senators.

…..Semper Fi

23 posted on 11/05/2003 8:27:54 AM PST by North Coast Conservative (never take a gun to a gunfight that doesn't start with at least .40 cal)
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To: conspiratoristo
I'm glad we won this thing. I emailed a ton of friends and family asking them to vote NO too.

Taft's commercial for Issue One backfired, his popularity is below 50% and so was Issue One. Coincidence, I think not.
24 posted on 11/05/2003 8:36:11 AM PST by NeoCaveman (illegitimati non carborandum)
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To: conspiratoristo
Makes two of us. I was also happy to hear that the Lakewood siezure of private property was defeated.

25 posted on 11/05/2003 8:37:02 AM PST by Bikers4Bush
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To: TonyRo76
Once they had looked at the options and done a cost analysis, the choice of IL as the company's home base was a no-brainer. Ohio would've been almost impossible!

Tony, I am working on a paper about just this type of situation exactly. If you have any articles, statistics, research, etc. that you could forward to me (public stuff only of course) I would appreciate it.

26 posted on 11/05/2003 8:38:14 AM PST by NeoCaveman (illegitimati non carborandum)
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To: Bikers4Bush
I was also happy to hear that the Lakewood siezure of private property was defeated.

By 39 votes I heard this morning. Every vote counts.

27 posted on 11/05/2003 8:38:56 AM PST by NeoCaveman (illegitimati non carborandum)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Isn't that the truth.


28 posted on 11/05/2003 8:40:03 AM PST by Bikers4Bush
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To: TonyRo76
and our Workers' Comp...uh, now that's a quagmire!
Give the politicians some credit, they tried to fix that mess. They had a new system in place, then the unions got a referendum on the ballot that put the quagmire back.

A couple of jobs ago, we suspected we had some WC freeloaders costing us money. A crew of PIs armed with video cameras confirmed our suspicions. The hearing officers:

1) Wouldn't provide a VCR or TV. Our HR Manager had to carry them through downtown streets from the parking lot to the hearing room. They wouldn't even provide a bailiff/escort.

2) Didn't consider a video of a full and vigorous workout on a weight machine conclusive evidence that a guy out for a back injury was faking it.

-Eric

29 posted on 11/05/2003 8:42:40 AM PST by E Rocc (Senator Robert Byrd voted against the Iraq package because he couldn't rename the country "Byrd".)
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To: conspiratoristo
bump
30 posted on 11/05/2003 9:08:02 AM PST by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: conspiratoristo
Many Ohioans just don't give a damn. They are ignorant of what is going on, and really don't want to know.

I bet, they could give you, the lastest stats on their favorite team thou.

BTW, Issue I passed in Trumbull County:
26,761 for
26,103 against

31 posted on 11/05/2003 9:15:13 AM PST by MissTargets (can't eat 'em, but love to shoot 'em)
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To: E Rocc
Figures. Those hearing officers are probably beneficiaries of the bureaucratic status-quo. Peons with connections. How pathetic!
32 posted on 11/05/2003 10:18:02 AM PST by TonyRo76
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To: dubyaismypresident
Now problem, dub! I will gladly keep an eye out, and forward you anything that might be relevant.
33 posted on 11/05/2003 10:21:41 AM PST by TonyRo76
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To: dubyaismypresident
Er, that's NO problem! Sheez...too much caffeine today :-Þ
34 posted on 11/05/2003 10:30:14 AM PST by TonyRo76
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To: conspiratoristo; All
People don't understand the issues well enough (who has time for "researching a subject"? ha!) and also do believe whatever they happen to hear or see on "the news" or "TV" (which is why it was important that the Reagan movie not be shown...a large number of ignorant people who also can vote would believe every word of it)...

Isn't this Senate Select Intelligence Committee memo that was leaked just astonishing?! That makes my case, and we really need to continue "counter-acting" the mis- and dis-information put out by people with a "hidden agenda" that's not related to security or intelligence issues...

RE: Lakewood and "eminent domain"...there will be a recount, since the issue failed by less that one half of one percent...but their Mayor (who's pet project this was) lost her re-election bid, and although the newly elected mayor also apparently favored the project, perhaps he will reconsider in light of the other developments (no pun intended!)...I'm presuming the count will stand, there will be no "manufacturing" of additional votes, and etc....

You are right, conspiratoristo...we must be the "teachers" in whatever ways we can...Howard Dean isn't the only one who's "Internet-savvy", and of course we should be "active" in our own communities as well as we can (Kucinich is my Rep...GACK! but DeWine is my Senator, and that's a good Ohio "reminder" that he's on the afore-mentioned Senate committee)...

"Huzzah"!!! for the new Kentucky and Mississippi governors...your "common sense local activism" at work! ;)

35 posted on 11/05/2003 5:01:15 PM PST by 88keys (Fly-over country is much more than it's cracked up to be!)
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