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An Execution In Florida Terri Schiavo On Death Row
toogoodreports ^ | October 30, 2003 | Lisa Fabrizio

Posted on 10/30/2003 3:22:44 PM PST by sweetliberty

According to the Florida Department of Corrections, the average stay on their state's death row prior to execution is 11.76 years. That means that convicted murderers, many of whom have signed confessions, are usually given a decade to use the legal system to pursue the means of extending their lives. Armed with teams of lawyers and abetted by anti-death penalty advocates and judges, they do not receive their due punishment until all legal processes have been exhausted, and sometimes not even then.

Terri Schiavo received her death sentence on February 11, 2000 and her time on death row may be running out. Terri has been sentenced to suffer a fate that the Founding Fathers would surely have considered a 'cruel and unusual punishment'; that of death by starvation. Terri's crime? It is the same for which thousands of innocent, unborn children are legally put to death every year; inconvenience. And, like those unfortunate unborn, Terri seems fated to be executed in full view, and with the support of the same judicial system that goes to excruciating lengths to preserve the lives and rights of murderous felons.

Inconvenience? Yes. It is the same reason we shunt our sick and elderly off to nursing homes, condone abortion and practice varying forms of euthanasia. Forgot to use one of the many, many contraceptives available and became pregnant when the birth of a child would be a nuisance? Just visit the nearest 'family planning' center where they'll eliminate your 'problem' and even help you fill out the health care forms. An older parent becoming troublesome? Merely dial up the nearest 'assisted living' complex and bon voyage! A brain-damaged wife? There are many 'right-to-death' folks just panting at the opportunity to help you pull the plug and make money in the process.

In this modern age of ours, it is not only the sanctity of life that is in question, but that of true compassion in general. In the sad case of Terri Schiavo, these, plus other notions of common decency have been twisted by the courts and by others who seek her death as somehow beneficial to her. A wise sister of mine asks; If she is truly in a vegetative state as Michael Schiavo, et.al. contend, why must she be relieved of the 'suffering' which, by their definition, she can not feel?

The answer is, because her continued existence is inconvenient to her legal guardian who also purports to being her husband. She was once very important to Schiavo, when he was exploiting her condition to the tune of a $1.3 million dollar malpractice settlement in 1992. At that time, Schiavo testified, "I believe in the vows I took with my wife, through sickness, in health, for richer for poorer." Well, he's been through the health, but the sickness that enabled him to get richer, if not terminated, will someday reduce him to the ranks of the poorer. And that is one reason why Terri must die.

Another is that maybe, if allowed to live out the life God gave her, she might one day regain her ability to speak, and that might cause a wee bit of trouble for the vow-believing Mr. Schiavo. On the night of her collapse in 1990, although he knew CPR, Schiavo did not perform it on his wife, who then became oxygen-deprived for five to ten minutes.

But what caused the collapse? Doctors who treated her at the Northside Humana ER and performed her toxicology screen ruled out heart attack or drugs and theorized that it may have been caused by low blood potassium. When she was admitted, it was noted on her paperwork that she had a "rigid neck," which is sometimes indicative of strangulation. Why this information was not investigated or even given to her family at the time is another part of the mystery surrounding the cause of her condition. As is a recently released bone scan done in 1991, which details multiple traumas to her limbs, spine and torso including a broken femur and back. The radiologist who performed the scan noted, "This patient has a history of trauma."

Usually, in legal proceedings, unanswered questions like these are up to the State to answer before a death penalty can be imposed, but in Terri's case, the manner in which her appeals have been handled raises even more questions. Why are the conflict of interest issues involving Schiavo mouthpiece George Felos, Circuit Judge George Greer and the Hospice of the Florida Suncoast where Terri awaits her fate, not under tighter scrutiny? Why was Terri admitted to a hospice, where the admitting physician must certify that death is imminent within six months, when no such diagnosis has ever been made? Why was Terri's feeding tube ordered removed without an "end of life directive" by Terri which is mandated by Florida law?

No moral tragedy would be complete without irony and this is the most bitter; that Michael Schiavo is using the money earmarked for Terri's care to kill her. Another is that he would have been $800,000 dollars poorer had he remembered Terri's "wish" to die with dignity at the time of the malpractice suit instead of six years later when he and the state of Florida began their crusade to execute Terri.

If you can stand the heartbreak, go to the website maintained by her parents and look into the eyes of a vibrant, living human being as she interacts with those who love and only want to take her home and care for her. Then contemplate the slow, agonizing death her husband and the state of Florida have planned for her.

On Florida's death row, prisoners are allowed (among other things) medical and dental care, visitors and access to the clergymen of their choice. As Terri awaits her fate in her hospice cell consider: She has not had her teeth cleaned or a PAP smear in over seven years, nor has she ever had a mammogram. Her husband will not allow therapy of any kind and even ordered medication withheld when she developed serious infections. She is not allowed any visitors unless approved by Schiavo. Her parish priest was not allowed to give her a tiny sliver of the Host while administering Last Rites when her feeding tube was pulled on October 15, as this would have constituted 'sustenance', and he has since been barred from visiting her.

Terri Schindler-Schiavo, through the grace of God, did not die when her executioners ordered her feeding stopped twice. And the courageous act of the Florida legislature and stay of execution by Governor Bush may yet save her life, and we should all say a prayer that that happens. For who might be next? Alzheimer's patients, autistic or special needs children? The 'Greatest Generation' fought a war to defeat a man who had a plan to make the disabled disposable. Can we do any less than fight for the sanctity of all life?

To comment on this article or express your opinion directly to the author, you are invited to e-mail Lisa at FabLi@aol.com .


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: euthanasia; execution; righttodie; righttolife; terrischiavo
I am informed that the above article was written by a FReeper and is posted here with permission of the author.
1 posted on 10/30/2003 3:22:45 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty; JohnHuang2; Luis Gonzalez; Alamo-Girl; holdonnow; AC; ohioWfan; Marie Antoinette
Fantastic....would expect nothing less from a Freeper writer extraordinaire.

Calling on some big guns to add their two cents!

2 posted on 10/30/2003 3:44:59 PM PST by Republic
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To: Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; dandelion; PleaseNoMore; ...
Terri's Army ping!

If you want on or off of this list, please let me know.

3 posted on 10/30/2003 3:45:31 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
Then Terri should at least be given the time a murderer is given.
4 posted on 10/30/2003 3:50:50 PM PST by Budge ( <>< .)
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To: sweetliberty
I'm still praying for Terri. I'm sick and terribly pressed for time so thank you for pinging me to keep me informed. If there is anything I can actually DO I'll know about it thanks to you.
5 posted on 10/30/2003 4:19:40 PM PST by ChemistCat (Hang in there, Terri. Absorb. Take in. Live. Heal.)
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To: ChemistCat; lonevoice; MarMema; mommy23; cyn
I am praying, too!

Freeper published this!

6 posted on 10/30/2003 4:23:17 PM PST by Republic
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To: sweetliberty
Excellent Article. Thanks for posting it. I have equated Terri's situation to abortion in many of my comments in this forum. She is as innocent as an unborn and must be protected as we need to protect the unborn.

I don't see how anyone can look at those videos on her parent's site without realizing that there's still a soul in there trying to communicate. How anyone can sanction killing her is beyond me. I'll never understand it.

I've heard and repeated for years that you can tell a lot about a person by how he or she treats babies, old folks.

Thanks again.
7 posted on 10/30/2003 4:27:36 PM PST by gooleyman
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To: sweetliberty
Yay, LISA!! Way to lay it out, FreeperGirl...
8 posted on 10/30/2003 4:39:05 PM PST by dandelion
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To: sweetliberty; LisaFab
The 'Greatest Generation' fought a war to defeat a man who had a plan to make the disabled disposable. Can we do any less than fight for the sanctity of all life?

Well done, Lisa!

Thanks for the ping, sweetliberty.

9 posted on 10/30/2003 5:12:29 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Saddam Hussein is not running Iraq. He is not butchering tens of thousands of people." Rummy,10/27)
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To: sweetliberty
Why was Terri's feeding tube ordered removed without an "end of life directive" by Terri which is mandated by Florida law?

Anybody know if the "end of life directive" must be in writing, under Florida law? If it is, then how can Greer proceed on the basis of hearsay?

10 posted on 10/30/2003 5:12:46 PM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: sweetliberty
Excellent article!!! Prayers continuing for Terri.
11 posted on 10/30/2003 5:22:57 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: shhrubbery!
"If it is, then how can Greer proceed on the basis of hearsay?"

I read somewhere here today that there has to be a directive in writing under Florida law. I can only presume that Greer makes that giant leap based on the HINO acting as proxy, which I'm not sure there is any legal precedent for. That could be another reason why this case is so important to certain players....they would like to set that precedent, then they could appoint death advocate "guardians" at will to act as proxy in any case where an individual might not be able to speak for himself or herself, or for whatever reason the court may deem an individual incompetent to do so.

That would set a very scary precedent indeed.

12 posted on 10/30/2003 5:23:38 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty; All
I'm glad to see that a lot of us are getting a "clue" to this case, lets keep supporting the family and Terri.

I would like to add that if any of you would like to make a contribution to Terris foundation to help pay for postage, phone calls, photo copies and misc. other things, go to www.terrisfight.org and make a tax deductable donation(I beleive its a non-profit org.) to a worthy cause. This will eventually help us and other handicap people in this country.

The family's attorney Patricia Anderson (God Bless her) is working pro-bono. Thanks to her, and Tom her legal secretary.
13 posted on 10/30/2003 7:25:35 PM PST by tomniris (Is michael schiavo an honest man(I pray he finds peace in the Lord Jesus Christ real soon))
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To: ChemistCat; All
This is very true....

Give time To God
1. Give God what's right -- not what's left.

2. Man's way leads to a hopeless end -- God's way leads to
an endless hope.

3. A lot of kneeling will keep you in good standing.

4. He who kneels before God can stand before anyone.

5. In the sentence of life, the devil may be a comma--but never let
him be the period.

6. Don't put a question mark where God puts a period.

7. Are you wrinkled with burden? Come to the church for a face-
lift.

8. When praying, don't give God instructions - just report
for duty.

9. Don't wait for six strong men to take you to church.

10. We don't change God's message -- His message changes us.

11. The church is prayer-conditioned.

12. When God ordains, He sustains.

13. WARNING: Exposure to the Son may prevent burning.

14. Plan ahead -- It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.

15. Most people want to serve God, but only in an
advisory position.

16. Suffering from truth decay? Brush up on your Bible.

17. Exercise daily -- walk with the Lord.

18. Never give the devil a ride -- he will always want to drive.

19. Nothing else ruins the truth like stretching it.

20. Compassion is difficult to give away because it keeps
coming back.

21. He who angers you controls you.

22. Worry is the darkroom in which negatives can develop.

23. Give Satan an inch &he'll be a ruler.

24. Be ye fishers of men -- you catch them &He'll clean them.

25. God doesn't call the qualified, He qualifies the called.

26. Read the Bible -- It will scare the hell out of you.


What we do in life echoes in eternity....



Those who trade liberty for security have neither ...
14 posted on 10/30/2003 7:37:37 PM PST by tomniris (Is michael schiavo an honest man(I pray he finds peace in the Lord Jesus Christ real soon))
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To: sweetliberty
Thanks for the heads up!
15 posted on 10/30/2003 7:45:48 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: sweetliberty
Excellent!
16 posted on 10/30/2003 7:46:21 PM PST by katnip (It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains)
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To: sweetliberty
Beautifully done and full of information for those who do not know what Terri has been put through. The more who read this and other true reports on Terri, the better her chance to go home at last.
17 posted on 10/30/2003 8:29:44 PM PST by T'wit
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To: nickcarraway
Ping!
18 posted on 10/30/2003 9:00:43 PM PST by wisconsinconservative ("...then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak out for me.")
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To: Lady In Blue; Canticle_of_Deborah; MarMema; kimmie7; floriduh voter; JulieRNR21; NautiNurse; ...
ping
19 posted on 10/30/2003 9:07:21 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetliberty
Excellent!
20 posted on 10/30/2003 9:08:26 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: nickcarraway
27. In the Encyclical on Christian Education[10] We explained the fundamental doctrine concerning man as it may be gathered from reason and Faith. Man has a spiritual and immortal soul. He is a person, marvelously endowed by his Creator with gifts of body and mind. He is a true "microcosm," as the ancients said, a world in miniature, with a value far surpassing that of the vast inanimate cosmos. God alone is his last end, in this life and the next. By sanctifying grace he is raised to the dignity of a son of God, and incorporated into the Kingdom of God in the Mystical Body of Christ. In consequence he has been endowed by God with many and varied prerogatives: the right to life, to bodily integrity, to the necessary means of existence; the right to tend toward his ultimate goal in the path marked out for him by God; the right of association and the right to possess and use property.

21 posted on 10/30/2003 9:15:12 PM PST by Coleus (Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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To: sweetliberty
bookmarked. great post. thank you.
22 posted on 10/30/2003 9:15:33 PM PST by Calpernia (Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does.)
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To: sweetliberty
During the trial, attorneys for the Schiavos showed a film of a day in Mrs. Schiavo's life at Sabal Palms Nursing Home in Largo. Although she's in a vegetative state, said St. Petersburg lawyer Glenn Woodworth, "you can tell she has some sense of her predicament."
"It's a tragic case," Woodworth said. "She was on the threshold of her life. They were ready to start a family . . . (On the film) she knows her husband and looks into his eyes."

Doesn't this statement by Schiavo's lawyer directly contradict everything Schiavo and his new lawyer are saying today?

23 posted on 10/30/2003 9:22:48 PM PST by Samwise (There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
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To: Samwise
Interesting observation/inconsistency. There are just SO many.
24 posted on 10/30/2003 9:26:30 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty; LisaFab
Lisa has written an excellent article that asks the right questions. Thanks for the ping, sweetliberty.
25 posted on 10/30/2003 9:36:59 PM PST by windchime
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To: sweetliberty

Terri must be guarded 24/7 and quickly removed from the Hospice of Hell. As things heat up... and Mikey finally realizes that his attempts to legally execute and cremate Terri are going to fail... I suspect he will become desperate and would smother her to insure that she never has a chance to implicate him as being the brutal monster that beat her and strangeled her on that fateful night!!!

God Bless You, Terri !!!

.

26 posted on 10/30/2003 9:45:22 PM PST by GeekDejure (<H3> Searching For The Meaning Of "Huge" Fonts !!!</H3>)
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To: shhrubbery!
SHHRUBBERY! WROTE: "Anybody know if the "end of life directive" must be in writing, under Florida law? If it is, then how can Greer proceed on the basis of hearsay?"

I AM RESPONDING: "BINGO!!! Even a murderer doesn't get convicted and the death penalty based on HEARSAY!!!

27 posted on 10/30/2003 9:47:22 PM PST by Concerned
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To: sweetliberty
Kudos, Lisa! Well written. Just one addition: this case points further than calling it 'for convenience'; this case of Terri's husband and her state's court system executing her in her dependency state points to 'quality of life', with emphasis on the husband's quality of life, the state's quality of life (not having to spend the monies to maintain her dependency or the future dependencies of others), and none at all toward Terri's LIFE.

Terri has been dehumanized, reduced to a thing over which her husband, his henchghoul lawyer, and the imperious Florida court system wrangle as they seek to dispose of her in order to improve the 'quality of other's lives' ... and if the people of Florida allow this to end with Terri's dehydration execution, they will reap what they have allowed their courts to sow, but when it hits them personally, they will find they are too late to alter the course chosen by the imperious courts and judges.

Personally, I wouldn't set foot in the state of Flordia on a bet! I'm doing everything I can to prevent anyone in my family from going there, also. Too damn dangerous.

28 posted on 10/30/2003 10:04:26 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
"her state's court system executing her in her dependency state points to 'quality of life', with emphasis on the husband's quality of life, the state's quality of life (not having to spend the monies to maintain her dependency or the future dependencies of others), and none at all toward Terri's LIFE."

Most excellent point!

29 posted on 10/30/2003 10:08:35 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
This has always been about the right to kill, no the right to die.

And it is the government, of by and FOR the people who through elected representatives and a good govenor stepped in to STOP THIS DEATH BY JUDICIAL PROCLAMATION!

30 posted on 10/30/2003 10:12:15 PM PST by Republic
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To: sweetliberty
I've been working on a manuscript in which I will seek to bring so many of these abominations under one notion. I firmly believe the euthanasia, abortion, ESCR and therapeutic cloning issues have a common thread ... the utilitarian exploitation of others' as a means to improve the perceived quality of the stronger lives. All share the basis of dehumanizing in order to empower the exploitation for the benefit of others.
31 posted on 10/30/2003 10:21:14 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Republic
Still wondering, after reading the doctor's report the other day...why has no one looked into how Terri got these traumatic "bone"scars? Too many unanswered questions here.
32 posted on 10/30/2003 11:19:46 PM PST by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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To: nickcarraway
Hey, Nick, thank you for all the info pings...I am going to catch up on the weekend, have been very busy.....still praying for Terri....
33 posted on 10/30/2003 11:51:58 PM PST by sfRummygirl (SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Lisa
Excellent summation, Lisa. Thank you.

I just keep sending emails to Larry King asking him when the Schindlers get their turn on his show...
34 posted on 10/31/2003 6:47:53 AM PST by krunkygirl
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To: sweetliberty; Republic; rogercolleridge; All
Thanks for posting this. I've gotten great response to this piece and am pursuing some leads as a result. Terri's fight is as vital to the rest of us as it is to her.

Are there any Florida lawyers familiar with guardianship issues out there?

Hey, wise sister.

35 posted on 10/31/2003 7:04:34 AM PST by LisaFab
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To: LisaFab
Great job Lisa! I sent this story to eveyone on my email list! It is a wonderful summation of what is going on with Terry for anyone who hasn't followed the story very closely. I am really hoping that it will open some eyes.
36 posted on 10/31/2003 7:12:30 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: LisaFab
Well, you've called me a "wise a##" before, but never just plain wise.

Bravo, sis.
37 posted on 10/31/2003 7:59:26 AM PST by rogercolleridge
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To: LisaFab
I just reread your article. Lisa, it really nails it down. I am so glad you are helping to recruit people who can help the Schindler family right this horrific injustice.

Thanks God our elected officials in the Florida House of Reps and the good Govenor down there 'CHANGED THE LAW!!!

Just what judges facing disgruntled plaintiffs or defendants say so often..."You don't like the law, so change it!"

They did. Florida points out the CRUCIAL importance of judges....the dems know this...and they fight dirty to keep good constitutional JUDGES off the bench.

We can all help here by calling our reps in DC and DEMANDING they stand up and push without relenting for the judicial nominations of our President! We must act. Now. It is up to US to stop this madness of court ordered DEATH. Especially considering the evidence Judge Greer DISALLOWED in determining that Terri certainly needed to be starved and denied water.

Still looking for Judge Greer's email address....I have a LOT to get off my chest. And want Circuit Judge Demer's address too, the man charged with determining Terri's guardian.

We have to help prevent a MONSTER from hovering over Terri....doing the work of those two vampires-MS and girly death man Felos.

38 posted on 10/31/2003 8:21:26 AM PST by Republic
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To: All
Major bump!
39 posted on 10/31/2003 11:43:26 AM PST by Republic
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To: Republic
Great article! I'm praying for Terri and searching for anything I can find to help out.
40 posted on 10/31/2003 4:09:26 PM PST by mommy23
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To: mommy23
Yeah....that is great...me too!
41 posted on 10/31/2003 5:51:44 PM PST by Republic
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To: All
Just a bump for an article written by an outstanding FReeper that was published online.
42 posted on 11/03/2003 8:46:02 PM PST by Republic
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