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ABC Special Explores if Jesus Had Wife
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 10.30.03 | DAVID BAUDER

Posted on 10/30/2003 7:46:04 PM PST by mhking

NEW YORK — ABC News correspondent Elizabeth Vargas concedes her network is stepping into a theological minefield with its one-hour exploration of whether Jesus Christ had a wife.

The ABC News special, "Jesus, Mary and DaVinci," is scheduled to air Monday at 8 p.m. ET.

"You can't talk about this subject without intriguing people or offending people," Vargas said Thursday. "We're trying to do it as respectfully as we can."

ABC screened the special for some reporters and religious leaders on Thursday. The program is based on the best-selling novel, "The DaVinci Code," which claims to be partly grounded on historical fact.

The book asserts that Mary Magdalene was Jesus' wife — not a prostitute, as in some teachings — and that she fled Jerusalem with his child following his crucifixion.

The story was kept alive for centuries by a secret society that included the painter Leonardo DaVinci, who supposedly inserted clues about it in his art, the book claimed.

The ABC special outlines the theories and speaks to several theologians who either discount the story or assert that it is possible.

The show unravels like a mystery perpetuated by secondhand gossip. Vargas said ABC found no proof that Jesus had a wife, but couldn't completely discount it, either.

Vargas, who was raised a Roman Catholic, said her own parents said to her, "Oh, my goodness, what are you doing?" when they found out she was working on the story.

She said she was never aware of the power struggles and political intrigue that went into how her faith is taught today.

"For me, it's made religion more real and, ironically, much more interesting — which is what we're hoping to do for our viewers," she said.

It drew some immediate criticism, particularly from a representative of the Catholic League, who said ABC News relied too heavily on the opinion of Father Richard McBrien of Notre Dame, who believes Mary Magdalene's importance has been historically understated and that it's possible she was his wife.

"I think it was not sufficiently balanced," said Joseph DeFeo, policy analyst for the Catholic League. "The majority of the people who spoke believed in either the plausibility or the outright truth of (book author) Dan Brown's claims. The facts themselves scream out that this is a crackpot theory."

The show even drew criticism from Nikki Stephanopoulos, mother of ABC News correspondent George and the communications director for the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America. She the special might offend people who believe that women have a more prominent role in the church.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; epigraphyandlanguage; faithandphilosophy; gospelofjesuswife; hewasarabbi; karenking; letshavejerusalem; mariame; mariamne; marymagdalene; rabbismarry; religion; sectarianturmoil; weddingatcana
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I ain't about to touch this one.
1 posted on 10/30/2003 7:46:05 PM PST by mhking
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To: mhking
notice how what GOD SAID or what ChRIST SAID
doesn't matter............
2 posted on 10/30/2003 7:47:42 PM PST by cars for sale
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To: mhking
I just saw the commercial ... good grief ...
3 posted on 10/30/2003 7:48:18 PM PST by Bobby777
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To: mhking
Where will we be 20 years from now.
4 posted on 10/30/2003 7:56:16 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: mhking
"Vargas said ABC found no proof that Jesus had a wife, but couldn't completely discount it, either."

And the Sun was originally Blue Cheese, according to my sources, although unfortunately there is no proof of that left either. Sheesh! Give me a break!
5 posted on 10/30/2003 7:56:34 PM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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6 posted on 10/30/2003 7:59:59 PM PST by Timesink
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To: mhking
The ABC News special, "Jesus, Mary and DaVinci," is scheduled to air Monday at 8 p.m. ET.

Is this sweeps week by chance ?

7 posted on 10/30/2003 8:00:14 PM PST by ikka
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To: ikka
wiat til God has his sweeps week
8 posted on 10/30/2003 8:01:46 PM PST by cars for sale
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To: ikka
Is this sweeps week by chance ?

Yep. Sweeps month began tonight.

9 posted on 10/30/2003 8:01:52 PM PST by mhking
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To: mhking
"You can't talk about this subject without intriguing people or offending people," Vargas said Thursday.

Then why talk about it at all? It's not news, it's meaningless speculation.

10 posted on 10/30/2003 8:02:13 PM PST by Timesink
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To: mhking
Okay, the stupid movie of the left, "The Reagans," really had me in a tizzy earlier this week. I e-mailed all of the sponsors and jerks at CBS. I am angry at them in their attempt to distort history in such a vile and disgusting manner.
Now the spinners at the networks of X42's presidency are TAKING ON THE BIBLE AND JESUS? I think I have to walk away from the monitor now. I'm not a chuchgoer, but I at least have enough faith and knowledge to recognize blasphemy.
11 posted on 10/30/2003 8:02:52 PM PST by mplsconservative (Time for a new tagline.)
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To: mhking
If he had one, wonder if she'd go around after him yelling "Jesus Christ" as much as mine does at me.
12 posted on 10/30/2003 8:03:05 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (Dr. Hasslein was the only human character who had any sense in the "Apes" series)
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To: mhking
Ok, so CBS is trashing Reagan, ABC is trashing Jesus, who's NBC susposed to trash?
13 posted on 10/30/2003 8:03:43 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: mhking
It is a mark of the ahistorical ignorance of our society today that such tripe as the DaVinci Code is read and taken seriously by millions.
14 posted on 10/30/2003 8:05:17 PM PST by The Iguana
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
"Where will we be 20 years from now."

I'm guessing:

a) Civil War II

b) WW III

c) The Second Coming.

15 posted on 10/30/2003 8:05:21 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: mhking
"You can't talk about this subject without intriguing people or offending people," Vargas said Thursday. "We're trying to do it as respectfully as we can."

Can anyone spell R-A-T-I-N-G-S? I knew you could. Thank goodness there's nothing newsworthy going on in the world that is getting ignored (having exhausted the coverage on illegal aliens, delayed judicial nominations, the evils of homeschooling, or anything positive that is happening in Iraq).

This sounds like some crap the "Jesus Seminar" would pull. Scholarship by opinion. Alas...
16 posted on 10/30/2003 8:06:51 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: tbpiper; All
I wouldn't know, nor care, if they were trashing me, since I don't watch those stations, unless sports are on. They are so yesterday in the cable/dish/internet world. As for all the blasphemy that they may be engaging in, don't worry; they're the ones going to hell! Celebrate the Word of the Lord!
17 posted on 10/30/2003 8:08:10 PM PST by hollywood
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To: F16Fighter
And still no Red Sox WS Pennant :o)
18 posted on 10/30/2003 8:08:13 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican (sorry, couldnt resist...)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I believe some of us may be "gone" and others will be "Left Behind"
19 posted on 10/30/2003 8:08:16 PM PST by apackof2 (Watch and pray till you see Him coming, no one knows the hour or the day)
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To: mhking
"The DaVinci Code," which claims to be partly grounded on historical fact.

This about broke my ribs!
What written work in the history of civilization hasn't been "partly grounded on historical fact"?
20 posted on 10/30/2003 8:08:39 PM PST by VOA
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To: mhking
What ya wanna bet the Domminck Crossen shows up on this show?
21 posted on 10/30/2003 8:09:34 PM PST by Protagoras (Hating Democrats doesn't make you a conservative.)
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To: Timesink
Then why talk about it at all?

That was my first reaction. If it wasn't Christians that the report was likely to offend, it would be hands-off.

22 posted on 10/30/2003 8:09:57 PM PST by FourPeas (Preview? We don't need no stinkin' Preview!)
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To: mhking
WWJD...Who Would Jesus Date! LOL!
23 posted on 10/30/2003 8:10:07 PM PST by anncoulteriscool
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To: mhking
Anything that comes out of a "secret society" is always a good clue it is going to be a bit loony. It never fails.
24 posted on 10/30/2003 8:11:11 PM PST by Peace will be here soon (Go USA Eagles !!! Beat those Frenchies !!!!)
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To: mhking
The story was kept alive for centuries by a secret society that included
the painter Leonardo DaVinci, who supposedly inserted clues about it
in his art, the book claimed.


"Queer Eye For The Holiest Guy"
Criminy, they can't get anything on the three major networks without
it being at least metrosexual.
25 posted on 10/30/2003 8:11:32 PM PST by VOA
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To: mhking
Some people just have too much idle time. What is the old saying. An idle mind is the playground of the devil. Or something like that.
26 posted on 10/30/2003 8:12:13 PM PST by TexKat
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To: TexKat; Timesink
Some people just have too much idle time.

Yeah - ABC News...

27 posted on 10/30/2003 8:13:08 PM PST by mhking
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To: tbpiper
who's NBC susposed to trash?

Undoubtedly they're working on a documentary asserting that Mohammed was a homosexual. (Need I close my tags?)

28 posted on 10/30/2003 8:13:28 PM PST by FourPeas (Preview? We don't need no stinkin' Preview!)
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To: mhking
Are they gonna do a special on whether Mohammed was a child abuser? ......I didn't think so. Not enough guts.
29 posted on 10/30/2003 8:15:54 PM PST by cookcounty
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To: mhking
"You can't talk about this subject without intriguing people or offending people,"

Projected percentage of people who will be "intrigued" by this show: 10%. Projected percentage of people who will be offended by this show: 70%. Percentage of people who are too jaded to be either intrigued or offended by this show: 20%.

30 posted on 10/30/2003 8:16:04 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: tbpiper
Ok, so CBS is trashing Reagan, ABC is trashing Jesus, who's NBC susposed to trash?

NBC will be bashing Clinton. Wait...NO! They can't do that. That would be blasphemy.

31 posted on 10/30/2003 8:17:46 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: mhking
Jesus as celebrity. The media thinks we own the private lives of celebrities. They stalk the talented and beautifully mercilessly, watching for the slightest misstep, the slightest flaws. Their criticism gave Karen Carpenter a fatal illness. Their vigil killed Princess Diana of England. Perhaps the isolation they force celebrities to adopt breeds political extremism. It certainly destroys marriages and lives and puts untenable pressures on people who are "just people" behind the glitz and glam.

Hey, time to step up and do the same to "historical figures," no matter how important or how widely venerated.

The Bible is almost silent about His early life, before His ministry and sacrifice, for a reason. It was His time to be human, to have friends who were just FRIENDS, not followers; time to laugh, love, learn. As a carpenter he surely made many wonderful things with His hands during this time; yet none of those artifacts survive--because they are not what matters. We tend to view the places He walked in awe, and there would probably be whole sects devoted to worshiping a spoon with which He ate. Fortunately, in my opinion anyway, we do not have tangible things leftover from the life of Jesus. We have His WORDS. Those of us who believe in continuing revelation have more of them than others do; He is not dead, nor silenced by His critics!

In His childhood, youth, and early adulthood, He had a life that presumably was full of the best life has to offer the best Man who ever lived--and therefore, when He gave it up to do His Father's will, He was really giving up SOMETHING. We don't own that--we have no right to that, and his friends who recorded the Gospels know that. What we need to know about Him we are told in the testaments of Him. The rest is His business and to speculate on it at all seems evil to me--the ultimate gossip.

If He married on earth it's not our BUSINESS. He was without sin, and went to His death a completely innocent sacrifice for sin. Some bit of gossip, preserved in history though it may be, just doesn't have a bit of RELEVANCE as far as Jesus's importance in our lives today.

I do not believe we ought to pursue such questions.
32 posted on 10/30/2003 8:17:50 PM PST by ChemistCat (Hang in there, Terri. Absorb. Take in. Live. Heal.)
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To: mhking
If Jesus had a wife, it wouldn't have damaged the theology of Christianity in the least.

But since there's no evidence that I know of that suggests that he did, why is this even an issue?

33 posted on 10/30/2003 8:18:20 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: mhking
CBS applying vain imagination to Reagan. ABC praying for a Jesus scandal. What's NBC up to?
34 posted on 10/30/2003 8:18:20 PM PST by cookcounty
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To: txzman
I heard it was blue cheese, too. YOU MUST BE RIGHT!
35 posted on 10/30/2003 8:19:01 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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To: Dog Gone
But since there's no evidence that I know of that suggests that he did, why is this even an issue?

'Cause it's November sweeps.

36 posted on 10/30/2003 8:19:32 PM PST by mhking
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To: mplsconservative
Slava Isusu Chrystu!

Glory to Jesus Christ!

37 posted on 10/30/2003 8:19:37 PM PST by Leo Carpathian
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Hey, those were my first words! :)
38 posted on 10/30/2003 8:19:46 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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To: cookcounty
What's NBC up to?

More Queer Eye...

39 posted on 10/30/2003 8:20:34 PM PST by mhking
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To: mhking
I remember something about this---supposedly her and Jesus' child was ancestor of the Capetian line, among others----interesting, cuz the Capets are some of my ancestors....

It's a load. I am not Jesus' eighty-somethingth great grandkid. Trust me.

40 posted on 10/30/2003 8:21:36 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: mhking
"We're trying to do it as respectfully as we can."

I used to get mad at this sort of thing. Now I worry what God will do to people who think this way.

41 posted on 10/30/2003 8:21:41 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: FourPeas
Undoubtedly they're working on a documentary asserting that Mohammed was a homosexual.

I think the drift is towards trashing people of value to the 'right'. Mo wouldn't qualify and besides, I think he had a fondness for little boys anyway.

42 posted on 10/30/2003 8:22:13 PM PST by tbpiper
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To: F16Fighter
WOW! I think you are definitely psychic. That's probably right on the money.
43 posted on 10/30/2003 8:22:16 PM PST by I'm ALL Right! (He is no fool who would give what he cannot keep to gain what he can never lose. - Jim Elliot)
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To: mhking
"The DaVinci Code," which claims to be PARTLY grounded on historical fact.

PARTLY? Which to me means they are mostly full of sh.t!

44 posted on 10/30/2003 8:23:03 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: tbpiper
Hence my 'tags' comment.
45 posted on 10/30/2003 8:23:04 PM PST by FourPeas (Preview? We don't need no stinkin' Preview!)
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To: Dog Gone
Years ago, I read "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" which speculated that Christ was married, and not only married, had children. That's the reason for the special, I think...that somewhere there's a "bloodline" of Christ...living decendents.

I swear, what will they think of next...
46 posted on 10/30/2003 8:24:34 PM PST by Judith Anne (Cyanide, mercury, and botulinum toxin are medically and industrially useful friends to mankind.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Where will we be 20 years from now.

That's a frightening one, isn't it?

47 posted on 10/30/2003 8:24:55 PM PST by SaveTheChief
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To: tbpiper
Ok, so CBS is trashing Reagan, ABC is trashing Jesus, who's NBC susposed to trash?

Moses? Take out the Jews and the Ten Commandments with one show.

-PJ

48 posted on 10/30/2003 8:27:16 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
"And still no Red Sox WS Pennant :o)"

The Second Coming is THE "day" the Red Sox almost win the World Series.

Jesus will land near the mound at Fenway with the Sox one out away from celebrating because God has a great sense of humor...AND He's a Yankee Fan ;-)

49 posted on 10/30/2003 8:28:39 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: mhking
Vargas said ABC found no proof that Jesus had a wife, but couldn't completely discount it, either.

If you have no proof of something and you continue to espouse it or do not discount it...then you are exhibiting a bias.

ABC showing bias? Now where have I heard that before?

50 posted on 10/30/2003 8:34:04 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Things are more like they are now than they ever were before.)
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