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US TV set for 'Jesus wife' storm
BBC ^ | 10/31/03

Posted on 10/31/2003 9:30:53 AM PST by nypokerface

A leading US TV news reporter has said her network is taking a risk with a news special which asks whether Jesus Christ had a wife.

ABC's Elizabeth Vargas said Jesus, Mary and Da Vinci, to be shown in the US on Monday night, was being made "as respectfully as we can".

But she admitted: "You can't talk about this subject without intriguing people or offending people."

The programme is partly based on the best-selling novel The Da Vinci Code.

The book alleges Mary Magdalene - a biblical figure widely thought to have been a prostitute - was actually Jesus's wife.

The book also asserts Magdalene fled Jerusalem with Jesus' child after his crucifixion.

This story was supposed to have been kept alive by a secret society that included the medieval painter and inventor Leonardo Da Vinci.

Da Vinci left clues about the story in his art, the novel alleged.

ABC have already screened the special, which talks to some theologians to try and unravel the theory, for some journalists and religious leaders.

'Crackpot theory'

It has already drawn criticism from a representative of the Catholic League, Joseph Feo, who said the news special had relied too much on the opinions of Father Richard McBrien of Notre Dame.

Father McBrien is said to believe the historical importance of Mary Magdalene had been under-rated.

Mr De Feo said: "The majority of the people who spoke believed in either the plausibility or the outright truth of [book author] Dan Brown's claims. The facts themselves scream out that this is a crackpot theory."

Vargas said ABC had not found any proof as to whether Jesus had a wife, but could not completely discount the theory either.

"For me, it's made religion more real and, ironically, much more interesting - which is what we're hoping to do for our viewers," she said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: abc; faithandphilosophy; gospelofjesuswife; hewasarabbi; jesus; karenking; mariame; mariamne; marymagdalene; rabbismarry; sectarianturmoil; weddingatcana
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1 posted on 10/31/2003 9:30:53 AM PST by nypokerface
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To: nypokerface
If the networks had any stones they would do a series of Muhammad as a misguided rug peddler.
2 posted on 10/31/2003 9:33:20 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Semper Paratus
They wouldn't dare offend anyone else, just Christians.
3 posted on 10/31/2003 9:35:10 AM PST by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: nypokerface
Vargas said ABC had not found any proof as to whether Jesus had a wife, but could not completely discount the theory either.
Now THERE is a suprise! /sarcasm..
4 posted on 10/31/2003 9:38:57 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Semper Paratus
Offend Muslims? Never....it's the Christians they love to target!

Muhammad as a misguided rug peddler? Funny....but how about Muhammad as a misguided female who fools everyone into thinking she is actually a he? ;-}
5 posted on 10/31/2003 9:39:05 AM PST by Arpege92
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To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
They wouldn't dare offend anyone else, just Christians.
AWWW come on now. Aren't they the "tolerant" ones? /sarcasm - again.
6 posted on 10/31/2003 9:42:34 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: nypokerface
I believe this comes from the Coptic gospels which the R.C. Church removed around 300 A.D..
I've heard about Christ having children before, but it's merely interesting theory.
However, since Christ was known as 'Rabbi', a term usually indicating one who had 'settled down' in life.

I really don't understand why it would make a difference one way or the other.
7 posted on 10/31/2003 9:43:55 AM PST by dyed_in_the_wool (Slowly I turned...step by step...inch by inch...)
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To: Semper Paratus
And as a pedophile! But will they? Nope. Only Christianity has the pleasure of being trashed these days.
8 posted on 10/31/2003 9:44:49 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: nypokerface
Posted here http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1011814/posts
9 posted on 10/31/2003 9:44:56 AM PST by dyed_in_the_wool (Slowly I turned...step by step...inch by inch...)
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To: nypokerface
These people are in bed with Satan.
10 posted on 10/31/2003 9:46:30 AM PST by boomop1
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To: Arpege92
How about moho as a raging epileptic pedophile who invents a religion to satisfy the voices he hears in his head?
11 posted on 10/31/2003 9:46:53 AM PST by Fudd (Oh, wait, that's been done already.)
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To: nypokerface
I would not be surprised to see a sit-com about the life of Jesus. Ted McGinley as Christ, Markie Post as Mary.....we just need a name for the series.
12 posted on 10/31/2003 9:47:52 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: GrandEagle
My TV movie pitch has Muhammed (played by Ron Jeremy)working as a NY cabbie. It's called "Terror Taxi."
13 posted on 10/31/2003 9:47:56 AM PST by Callahan
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To: nypokerface
"Vargas said ABC had not found any proof as to whether Jesus had a wife, but could not completely discount the theory either."

This passes for logic at ABC. If I extrapolate it, i can say I can't find any proof that Michael Eisner is a necrophiliac, but I can't discount the theory either.

14 posted on 10/31/2003 9:48:31 AM PST by iranger
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To: nypokerface
More blasphemy from the anti-Christian bigots in Hollyweird... God will punish the wicked.
15 posted on 10/31/2003 9:49:36 AM PST by exmarine (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: nypokerface
Don't many of the "Royals" throughout Europe and the UK (Old monarchys) believe they are decendants of Christ (Royal blood, holy lineage)? Preserved and protected by the Knights Templar or some other secret group? Seems I've heard that one surface more than once....
16 posted on 10/31/2003 9:49:51 AM PST by Dubh_Ghlase (I)
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To: Fudd
LOL....is it voices he hears in his head or could he have a split personality?
17 posted on 10/31/2003 9:51:22 AM PST by Arpege92
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To: Marysecretary
Islam/Muslims have the free right to kill/murder those who proselyte them.....?

(Islam/Muslim has a tax supported ACLU/U.N. heaven?)

/sarcsam

18 posted on 10/31/2003 9:52:44 AM PST by maestro
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To: nypokerface
Why would the fact that Jesus was possibly married upset anyone, besides Catholic Priests of course?

What is the problem with it, it just shows that God coming as human wished to experience all of life as a human being.

What's the big deal? He's still the son of God, right? He's still your Savior, right?

So, what are some of you getting all upset about?
19 posted on 10/31/2003 9:52:55 AM PST by Ogmios (Since when is 66 senate votes for judicial confirmations constitutional?)
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To: dyed_in_the_wool
There are some interesting figures in the "Last supper" by Leonardo. The person to the right of Jesus is a female. You will notice that they have the same robes on but inverted colors the two figures outline a "M". There is discussion that Leonardo was a follower of a cult of the Baptist John and they believed that Jesus was married to Mary. One of the apocrypha describes Mary as Jesus' closest disciple and walked with him ahead of all others.
20 posted on 10/31/2003 9:53:18 AM PST by PatriotCJC
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To: Callahan
LOL (Who is Ron Jeremy - what did he play?)
21 posted on 10/31/2003 9:53:18 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: nypokerface
A leading US TV news reporter has said her network is taking a risk with a NEWS SPECIAL which asks whether Jesus Christ had a wife.

A news special?

A NEW LOW in the left-wing radical extremist attacks on Christianity!

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22 posted on 10/31/2003 9:56:30 AM PST by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: GrandEagle
Ron Jeremy....isn't he an English actor that appeared in a movie about a grown man having an affair with a thirteen year old girl?
23 posted on 10/31/2003 9:57:04 AM PST by Arpege92
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To: nypokerface; All
I am looking for the same outrage and boycott for this movie that was displayed about the upcoming movie about President Reagan
24 posted on 10/31/2003 9:57:42 AM PST by apackof2 (Watch and pray till you see Him coming, no one knows the hour or the day)
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To: dyed_in_the_wool
The book, "Holy Blood, Holy Grail", lays out this "theory" -

"The authors of Holy Blood, Holy Grail assert that their explorations into early history ultimately reveal that Jesus may not have died on the cross, but lived to marry and father children whose bloodline continues today.

The authors' point here is not to compromise or to demean Jesus, but to offer another, more complete perspective of Jesus as God's incarnation in man.

The power of this secret, which has been carefully guarded for hundreds of years, has sparked much controversy.

For all the sensationalism and hoopla surrounding Holy Blood, Holy Grail and the alternate history that it outlines, the authors are careful to keep their perspective and sense of skepticism alive in its pages, explaining carefully and clearly how they came to draw such combustible conclusions."
25 posted on 10/31/2003 10:06:05 AM PST by Weimdog
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To: nypokerface
You will only see more of this. The secular humanists will do everything in their power to trivialize Christ and Christianity in order to thwart the impact of Mel Gibson's "The Passion" when it is released next spring. They fear a return to religious values which will screw up their agenda.
26 posted on 10/31/2003 10:06:18 AM PST by Dionysius
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To: Arpege92
Ron Jeremy....isn't he an English actor that appeared in a movie about a grown man having an affair with a thirteen year old girl?

Yes. But his show business friends usually call him by his nickname: "The Hedgehog"

27 posted on 10/31/2003 10:06:27 AM PST by WackyKat
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To: apackof2; Arpege92
Arpege92 That would explain why I don't know him. Anyway, the terrorist Taxi Driver pare was GREAT!

apackof2: I have no outrage left. The cable is gone from the house and my boycott of TV is complete.
28 posted on 10/31/2003 10:06:43 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Arpege92
"Ron Jeremy....isn't he an English actor that appeared in a movie about a grown man having an affair with a thirteen year old girl?"

Ron Jeremy is a fat, balding, hairy, unattractive prolific porn star. How could someone with those qualities be a 'star' you ask? Let's just say he could stand at attention whenever the situation required it.
29 posted on 10/31/2003 10:07:40 AM PST by green iguana (I know he looks mean, but don't worry about my dog. He'll run away when I fire.)
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To: Ogmios
Are you still sniffing glue? I thought you quit that.
30 posted on 10/31/2003 10:08:27 AM PST by Gargantua (Embrace clarity.)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase
Not Christ...King David. Way big difference. ;)
31 posted on 10/31/2003 10:08:29 AM PST by madison10
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To: GrandEagle
That movie has been on cable for a while now. What I don't get about that movie is how this girls parents would even allow there daughter to appear in a movie like that.
32 posted on 10/31/2003 10:09:13 AM PST by Arpege92
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To: GrandEagle
notwithatenfootpole bump
33 posted on 10/31/2003 10:09:14 AM PST by tracer
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To: green iguana
Ron Jeremy....I was wrong, I think it's Jeremy Irons....isn't he English?
34 posted on 10/31/2003 10:10:32 AM PST by Arpege92
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To: nypokerface
It doesn't surprise me that ABC is considering showing this tripe. The news division has been in love with the revisionist historians known as "The Jesus Seminar" for many years.
35 posted on 10/31/2003 10:11:37 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: Arpege92
how this girls parents would even allow there daughter to appear in a movie like that.
No KIDDING! Asking for trouble. "the love of money..."
36 posted on 10/31/2003 10:12:30 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: nypokerface
I don't understand why people are so upset by this.
The Gospels say nothing of Jesus' life between the ages of about 13 and 30.
Given that the Gospel writers believed they were writing the life of the Savior of humanity, it seems an unaccountable omission.
How could what Jesus did and said during that period not be important?
Couldn't he have married and had children?
That would not have been a sin, would it?
That the Gospels don't mention Jesus having a wife is hardly evidence that he didn't, since the Gospels obviously leave out an enormous amount of Jesus' words and actions.
37 posted on 10/31/2003 10:13:22 AM PST by WackyKat
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To: Arpege92
Jeremy Irons - English, yes. And the movie is Lolita.
38 posted on 10/31/2003 10:15:13 AM PST by green iguana (I know he looks mean, but don't worry about my dog. He'll run away when I fire.)
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To: Gargantua
You asked a question, but did not bother to answer mine,

Why would Jesus being married cause problems for the Christian faith?

Why is it such a big deal?
39 posted on 10/31/2003 10:18:26 AM PST by Ogmios (Since when is 66 senate votes for judicial confirmations constitutional?)
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To: Arpege92
Ron Jeremy....isn't he an English actor that appeared in a movie about a grown man having an affair with a thirteen year old girl?

LOL...No, you're thinking of Jeremy Irons, who starred in the remake of Lolita.

Ron Jeremy is a notoriously unattractive porn star whose only aesthetic appeal is his freakish gland. To my knowledge, has only had affairs with women, not girls...if you want to call them "affairs." A more accurate term would be "sexual handshakes."

40 posted on 10/31/2003 10:20:31 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: GSWarrior
Saturdays, at 9pm, it's Meet The Christs!
41 posted on 10/31/2003 10:20:40 AM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: nypokerface
Well, Jesus is a religious figure in the Muslim faith. Maybe if Muslims object, then the TV movie will be pulled. Christian objections won't achieve anything, but maybe Muslim objections will...
42 posted on 10/31/2003 10:21:23 AM PST by Koblenz (There's usually a free market solution)
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To: ItsForTheChildren
LOL - But shouldn't that be a Sunday show?
43 posted on 10/31/2003 10:23:08 AM PST by green iguana (I know he looks mean, but don't worry about my dog. He'll run away when I fire.)
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To: Ogmios
Why would Jesus being married cause problems for the Christian faith?

Conceptually it does not.

For all practical purposes, however, it is simply something that is not true. If it were, it would have been part of the story passed down from generation to generation. It is not.

That said, to suggest the the Church and the Bible just failed to mention Jesus' wife is problematic. First, if He was indeed married and had a family, why was He out wandering around Judea? Did He abandon His wife and kids? That hardly seems appropriate.

And on a much more basic level, Jesus was the Incarnation of the Living God. He lived a life without sin. Exactly how cosmically unfair would it be to have Jesus as your father? What child could ever live up to such a role?

SD

44 posted on 10/31/2003 10:23:29 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: nypokerface
"was being made "as respectfully as we can".

That's like me suggesting as respectfully as I can that the ABC executive's mothers were prostitutes and drug addicts.

45 posted on 10/31/2003 10:24:58 AM PST by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: nypokerface
I am just finishing reading The Da Vinci Code...I think Christians and Jews should be sickened by it, although the Catholic faith is attacked. It is promoting paganism wrapped in a slightly interesting mystery.
46 posted on 10/31/2003 10:25:38 AM PST by gulfcoastgumbo
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To: Fudd
How about moho as a raging epileptic pedophile who invents a religion to satisfy the voices he hears in his head?

--who invents a religion to "explain" the voices and "justify" his lust for young girls as many as he could get. (married to a wealthy widow, who also didn't want her younger man's insanity to be known, then married 14 times over the next 11 years after her death. Only his daughters survived, guess he didn't want competition)
47 posted on 10/31/2003 10:26:52 AM PST by BabsC
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To: SoothingDave
I believe that the Church of Jesus Christ Latter day saints (Mormons) Believe he was married. What would make a better symbol to express his coming to the corrupt world to save it than redeeming and marring a whore?
48 posted on 10/31/2003 10:33:14 AM PST by Hollywoodghost (Let he who would be free strike the first blow)
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To: Ogmios
As you know, the Christian faith is based upon the Bible. The Bible is clear about Jesus' life, and this TV show (and questions like yours), while provocative, are just more fulfillment of the prophecies that human scum would assail and mock God's Holy Word in the Bible.

God knows what is in your heart, and you will be accountable for it to Him. Best of luck.

;-/

49 posted on 10/31/2003 10:33:23 AM PST by Gargantua (Embrace clarity.)
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To: nypokerface
The Jesus Scroll
This book presented that theory (among others) many many years ago.
50 posted on 10/31/2003 10:33:40 AM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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