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To: Question_Assumptions
Well I'd like to see the detailed math. The US Army is not the same as block grants for welfare is not the same as the Los Alamos labs is not the same as building nuclear submarines is not the same as having lots of retired people collecting social security. One only has to live in a place like NY to know that huge numbers of unproductive citizens are living off the fat of the land. I don't think you can say this about places like Wyoming. So before I give any weight to supposed "69c out of every $1" I'd like to see (and contemplate) the breakdown.
46 posted on 10/31/2003 11:59:36 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black
So before I give any weight to supposed "69c out of every $1" I'd like to see (and contemplate) the breakdown.

Do the research yourself or pay me a consulting fee to do it for you. There is only so much research I'll do for free.

Yes, you can argue that dollars are not equal but bear in mind that New Jersey does have military facilities as well (Fort Monmouth, Earl, Picatinny, McGuire, as well as federal employees in various agencies). And a heck of a lot of welfare gets sent into the "red" states. I know this is counter-intuitive for many Freepers but it really isn't difficult to understand. It's all about income.

If you look at average Median incomes (for example, here), you'll see an average income in Kentucky of $39,300 but $63,800 in New Jersey. New Jersey has about 8.6 million people while Kentucky has only about 4 million. Now, consider that the tax brackets for Federal income tax are not indexed for the cost of living. That means that fewer of those 4 million Kentuckians are even paying taxes. They are paying less in taxes. And there are less of them paying it. This is so obvious for conservatives when it comes to explaining why the poor didn't get a tax cut.

Poor people pay less in taxes. The people in the rural South, rural Midwest, and rural West are poorer than the people on the coast and in the cities. There are fewer of them in the same physical area. It is more expensive to do things like build roads, sewers, or electrical and phone lines and it takes longer to visit each person because each person is father apart (this is where the rural "Baby Bell" USWest got screwwed). Put it all together. This isn't that difficult to see once you stop assuming that rural living is cheap. Ask USWest/Qwest how cheap it is running a rural utility compared to an urban utility.

57 posted on 10/31/2003 12:21:27 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Jack Black
I appologize if I sounded to snotty asking you to do your own research or pay for it. Your requests were not particularly unreasonable. I simply get tired of people asking to be shown data rather than look it up themselves. What I've been doing is simply gone to Google and searching for key words to get the pages I pointed you to. You can honestly do the same if you want and it would probably be better for you to do so, since you could be sure to see all of the results and not simply the ones that I'm filtering out for relevence. I am usually just toss out the first references I find that look sound but I could just as easily be hiding data that proved I was wrong. If you did your own research, you could make up your own mind.
63 posted on 10/31/2003 12:36:11 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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