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Suspect Admits to Running Down Bikers
Fox News ^ | 10-31-2003 | AP

Posted on 10/31/2003 12:02:32 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:37:38 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

PANAMA CITY BEACH, Fla.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bikers; harley; old
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( Continuation from yesterdays news - more info, guilt admission)

"They didn't like that I called them old, and one of these guys hauls off and punches me in the chest," he said.

Police said the six bikers were from the Outlaws chapter in Bay City, Mich. Nola Zietler, 47, of Bay City, and Donald Dunham, 61, of Brethren, Mich., were killed.

Man, they **were** old...

1 posted on 10/31/2003 12:02:33 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Well. Can't get a whole lot more self-destructive than this dude...
2 posted on 10/31/2003 12:06:32 PM PST by Kenton
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Judge should have been lenient and remanded the accused to the custody of the Outlaws motorcycle gang.
3 posted on 10/31/2003 12:07:30 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Crack journalism:

he fears retribution from the gang ...

"Dudes in (jail) been telling me they're going to kill me, but I ain't scared," Pilgreen said.

4 posted on 10/31/2003 12:08:17 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
They didn't like that I called them old, and one of these guys hauls off and punches me in the chest.

Lesson of the day: Never punch a young punk in the chest -- unless you're powerful enough to stop his heart.

5 posted on 10/31/2003 12:09:25 PM PST by LibWhacker
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"Well. Can't get a whole lot more self-destructive than this dude.."

If he's convicted and sent to prison, he's gonna get to meet a bunch of Outlaws members. I don't like his survival chances.
6 posted on 10/31/2003 12:11:36 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Pilgreen said he had stolen the truck after arguing with his wife and trashing the house two weeks ago in Texarkana, Ark. He blamed his rage on a history of drugs, alcohol and childhood abuse.

"I realize I made a mistake," he said. "I know I did something I shouldn't have and I know I can't take it back. I just wish I could. I'm not a bad person, but I've been so lost and so hopeless for so long."

At least he confessed ...

Now hold a fair (and inexpensive) trial and a fast hanging. We put dogs to sleep don't we ?

7 posted on 10/31/2003 12:11:48 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
He blamed his rage on a history of drugs, alcohol and childhood abuse.

Hey now, surely there's a government grant for this deserving young person! He's a victim, after all.

8 posted on 10/31/2003 12:18:28 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Looks like some bikers picked on the wrong dude.
9 posted on 10/31/2003 12:20:05 PM PST by WackyKat
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Pilgreen, 26, said he would ask for the death penalty...

"Dudes in (jail) been telling me they're going to kill me, but I ain't scared," Pilgreen said. "They want to stab me, I'll stab back."

Something tells me his wish for execution may be less than sincere.

10 posted on 10/31/2003 12:23:15 PM PST by Snuffington
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If he's convicted and sent to prison, he's gonna get to meet a bunch of Outlaws members. I don't like his survival chances.

Yeah, this guy's hosed no matter what he's sentenced to--he's dead if he gets the death penalty, he's dead if he gets a lesser sentence, and he's dead if he's found innocent. He's in a pickle, to put it mildly.

11 posted on 10/31/2003 12:24:20 PM PST by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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"deliberately ramming a stolen pickup truck"

All right, I've had enough! I'm want my California congressman to outlaw stolen pickup trucks.

12 posted on 10/31/2003 12:26:04 PM PST by XHogPilot
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To: WackyKat
"Looks like some bikers picked on the wrong dude."

Well, yes. OTOH, it looks like he picked the wrong way to get his retribution. Everybody loses on this one.
13 posted on 10/31/2003 12:30:51 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: WackyKat
Looks like some bikers picked on the wrong dude.

They were made for eachother.

14 posted on 10/31/2003 12:32:41 PM PST by Tom Bombadil
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
I fought the Outlaws, and the Outlaws won.
15 posted on 10/31/2003 12:32:46 PM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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All right, I've had enough! I'm want my California congressman to outlaw stolen pickup trucks.

Well, at least a seven-day waiting period!

16 posted on 10/31/2003 12:33:38 PM PST by Ignatz (Helping people be more like me since 1960.)
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To: XHogPilot
All right, I've had enough! I'm want my California congressman to outlaw stolen pickup trucks.

I believe that's what happened here. The pickup truck was Outlawed. Or is it that the Outlaws were pickup trucked?

17 posted on 10/31/2003 12:37:38 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Not excusing his actions but at least he 'fessed up and seems to be taking responsiblity.

Despite his addictions/demons he probably already had some rage issues just guessing.

Yes I agree with another poster he is in a pickle.

What exactly was he trying to sell?
18 posted on 10/31/2003 12:42:12 PM PST by oceanperch (Respite care, it is a good thing.)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird

They look a liitle over the hill to me.
19 posted on 10/31/2003 12:53:07 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS
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"I'm want my California congressman to outlaw stolen pickup trucks."

Trucks don't kill people. Trucks abusively driven by people kill people.
20 posted on 10/31/2003 12:54:47 PM PST by green iguana (I know he looks mean, but don't worry about my dog. He'll run away when I fire.)
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