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Terri Schiavo: Myths and Facts - Dr. Dianne Irving, PhD
Children of God for Life ^ | Dr. Dianne Irving, PhD

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:13:07 AM PST by cpforlife.org

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To: from occupied ga; Prov1322
Terri & Michael in 1990 St. Pete Times photo before he won the lawsuit and she lost it.
Did it take 4 hrs for the photographer to get this?

Below are EXCERPTS -- please see PDF for original from friends of Terri website. Thanks to FL engineer, who found this.

Reports ‘transcribed’ to FreeRepublic

Physical Examination -- 6 - 27 - 90

*patient is awake, eyes are open
*easily startled to her name or when bedrail fell down

*significant amount of tone in the head and neck.
*severe hypertonicity of all four extremities; plantar flexor contractures, some shoulder limitation
*"again, tone is quite significant in all four extremities and difficult to achieve range of motion of the left hip and knee while she is in a supine position."
*she does give eye contact to family members
*she will close her eyes to any threatening response around her face and blink appropriately
*no verbal output during this exam but it has been reported by husband and other family members and therapists over at College Harbor.

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Treatment Plan Review from Mediplex rehab, Bradenton, 1/29/91

*Vocalizing when prone in P.T. [physical therapy]
*Occasionally will say "STOP" to nursing during procedures.

*to TR [recreation?] groups. More relaxed to therapists voice, touch (habituation)

21 posted on 11/03/2003 1:04:35 PM PST by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: MarMema
Yes, it was an excellent and informed post. We have at least two male Jesuit priests who are publicly writing/saying the opposite.

The irony to me is that she can't be a priest, not that she should, but she seems to have her head screwed on straight when it comes to applying correct catholic teaching imo.

22 posted on 11/03/2003 1:13:30 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Lady In Blue; Canticle_of_Deborah; MarMema; kimmie7; floriduh voter; JulieRNR21; NautiNurse; ...
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23 posted on 11/03/2003 1:24:04 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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24 posted on 11/03/2003 1:24:04 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Prov1322

Terri all spiffed up -- this must have been her trip to the mall salon, before 1992 trial.
May Terri achieve her freedom soon after all these years of justice denied.

from the Oct 30-31 Terri thread, #278, posted on 10/31/2003 by 4Godsoloved..Hegave re: was the CA treatment successful or not?:

He moved in with the Schindlers to care for her and accompanied her to California for experimental surgery that was unsuccessful.

From St. Petersburg Times...dated Feb. 17, 1991 (1 year after Terri's collapse.)

This city has proclaimed today Terri Schiavo day.

Last year Mrs. Schiavo, 27, suffered a loss of potassium in her body that caused her heart to stop beating and resulted in a coma. She underwent surgery, performed by Dr. Yoshio Hosobuchi of the University of California at San Francisco in December, to implant a stimulator in her brain.

The brain stimulator implant was a success, said her husband, Mike. Mrs. Schiavo is slowly emerging from the coma at the Mediplex Medical Center, a neurological care center in Bradenton, he said. She will undergo at least a year of speech, occupational and physical therapy.

A Feb. 9 Valentine's dance, sponsored by the Vina Del Mar Island Association, raised $1,575 for the Theresa Schiavo Trust Fund. -- end article & post.

UCSF recommended followup at Shands Gainesville. Terri's parents wanted this done immediately; Michael did not. So after the expense of flying out to CA to try this treatment, Terri did not receive further related care locally.

At what point did things change, and why?

The bottom line for me is this:
* Terri is alive, albeit with some degree of brain-damage
* she has been without ordinary stimulation or rehabilitation since the early '90's.
* Her husband, Mike, wants to get on with his new life -- and should.
* Her parents want to get on with Terri's new life -- and should.

25 posted on 11/03/2003 1:24:04 PM PST by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: cyn
"did not receive further relate care locally..."

correction -- she wasn't seen at Shands as recommended, but thanks to the drs, nurses, therapists & others who cared for and worked with Terri locally. A few of their notes are in above info.

26 posted on 11/03/2003 1:37:41 PM PST by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: cpforlife.org
Food and hydration are "extraordinary means", and thus a patient has the right to refuse.
FACT: NO. Even, and especially, in secular terms, while the use of ventilators, drastic surgery, experimental "therapies", etc., are extraordinary means and may be refused,

This response is a brutal lie as the facts of this case indicate.
27 posted on 11/03/2003 1:56:52 PM PST by Oystir
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To: Oystir
How's that?
28 posted on 11/03/2003 5:08:09 PM PST by agrace
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To: CedarDave
Unfortunately, even Fox, in their news crawls at the bottom of their screen, continue to characterize her as being in a "persistent vegetative state." This in spite of proof to the contrary as presented on their evening shows, including Greta's and Hannity's.

I've noticed htis too and it bugs the dickens out of me. Why do they refuse to correct that, or are they just lazy?

29 posted on 11/03/2003 5:13:36 PM PST by Ferret Fawcet ("A wise man's heart inclines him toward the Right, but a fool's heart...to the Left" ~Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Oystir
Please explain.
30 posted on 11/03/2003 5:40:38 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: from occupied ga
Rancho level 2.

And that was in 1990.
31 posted on 11/03/2003 8:05:11 PM PST by KDD
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To: cpforlife.org
Bump!
32 posted on 11/03/2003 8:35:01 PM PST by windchime
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To: nickcarraway
Great stuff because it's all the truth! Nick always manages to put the best on here!!! Thanks, Nick!!!
33 posted on 11/03/2003 8:46:06 PM PST by sisterjforteri
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To: KDD
Thanks - that's pretty low :-(
34 posted on 11/04/2003 3:45:19 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: from occupied ga
I don't know about test scores, but Michael Schiavo said Terri is the same now as she was in 1990 and here's how she looked then.

Michael Schiavo said on Larry King Live:
Now, Terri makes the same noises for the last 14 years. She's made the same facial expressions.

Something's
changed,
Michael.

In 1990
you were
gazing at
Terri
as though
she were
"in there."

35 posted on 11/04/2003 6:51:03 AM PST by syriacus (Casual comments about tubes, made after watching a 3 handkerchief movie, do not justify euthanasia.)
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To: cpforlife.org
bump for truth, life and liberty!
36 posted on 11/04/2003 7:33:48 AM PST by countrydummy
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To: cpforlife.org
Excellent article, which supports the constitutionality of Terri's Law.
37 posted on 11/05/2003 4:13:40 PM PST by msmagoo
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