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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 5 -7, 2003
Various | November 5, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/05/2003 12:14:25 AM PST by sweetliberty

TERRI'S FIGHT
(Thread 5 - November 5-7)
(Link back to Thread 4 - Nov. 3-4)

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Contained in Thread 4:

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Resource links to search business and criminal records in Florida, info on special guardian ad litum meeting (attempt to change qualifications?), Michael Schiavo parody, link to referral letter for Dr. Hammersfahr to the Nobel committee, transcript to Abrams Report closing commments - Nov.3, e-mail address for Larry King Live, Florida statutes on guardianship and some damning statements against Michael.

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

I know we're all getting tired, but we have to hang in there. This isn't just Terri's fight anymore. It is our fight too. To everyone who has worked tirelessly to gather information, write letters, make phone calls, spend time in prayer, be at the vigil supporting Terri's family and all the many other offerings you have given for this effort, thank you and may the Lord richly bless you.

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To: Krodg
Krodg & Graymatter,
I think the news article that is the longer one is simply using the items in the law suite. I would love to get a hold of the AP writer who filed the story -Mitch Stacy, I got that name from a link a nice FRper posted. I went on AP.org but don't see any way to e-mail anybody over there.

I would like a better longer story, a follow up. I would like to read the words that were spoken in court. There are a couple people on this message board who were phenominal about getting public records through the Internet. One of you, and you know who you are, do you think it is possible that we will get to read the transcripts of the hearing? Will you be able to dig it up once it get's published?
281 posted on 11/05/2003 6:28:41 PM PST by Lone Voice in the hinterlands
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To: T'wit
I keep wondering how much they look over their shoulder. There is an old saying -- and every woman understands it -- that if he'll cheat WITH you, he'll cheat ON you. Let's take that another step: If he bumps off his wife to marry YOU, how do you know he won't bump you off for his next girl friend?

According to other threads, Michael's been putting his money and assets in Jodi's name. Who says she's actually going to marry him? What if she instead decides to start singing like a canary and make him the fall guy after he gave her so much stuff?

282 posted on 11/05/2003 6:30:17 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: supercat
Yea, supercat, but would Jodi do that considering her illegitimate children's needs being so important at this point? She wants to make the kids legitimate and unite them formally with the "father."
283 posted on 11/05/2003 6:33:18 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
And she has the house, vehicle, etc. in her name to make sure the groom comes through.

Sure, Michael would have to go through with the wedding or get left in the cold, but why would Jodi? Seems to me she could start singing like a canary, make herself the hero ("I would have come forward sooner, but was afraid of what that horrible man would do to my parents", etc.) and pocket Michael's "gifts" to her. Seems like a beautiful situation for her to me.

284 posted on 11/05/2003 6:34:06 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: Theodore R.
Yea, supercat, but would Jodi do that considering her illegitimate children's needs being so important at this point?

Seems to me if Jodi cared about her kids she'd keep them as far away from Michael as possible.

285 posted on 11/05/2003 6:35:24 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: Lone Voice in the hinterlands
Thank you. If you need other e-mail addees, ping me. There's such a terrific group fighting for Terri now.

ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us ~ Judge George Greer

286 posted on 11/05/2003 6:39:46 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America to be passive. They counted wrong" ~RReagan)
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To: Krodg
Conflict of interest. The Schindlers believe Schiavo may be trying to end Terri's life to avoid paying alimony that could be awarded if a new guardian successfully petitioned for a divorce on her behalf;

For some weeks now, this has been my thinking as to why Schiavo demands that Terri must die.
287 posted on 11/05/2003 6:40:21 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: T'wit; sweetliberty
>>>send a mountain of cards...

And then there is also Terri's 19th wedding anniversary
coming up in a few days NOVEMBER 8th
288 posted on 11/05/2003 6:41:24 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: CindyDawg
Cindy,
Yes you are right about that. I abbreviated the whole long document there is some flexibility, however overall if I ever become irrerversivly incapacitated, brain dead and relying soly on machines to live, then I don't want to be kept alive like that. My wishes are not short term after an operation type of thing, it's more permenent than that.

My husband and I have both made each other Medical "Power of Attorney" for each other. However suppose my husband is just really bad, and I know his wishes but I just can't make myself follow them, in that case I can (it is within my option, no one can take this from me or step in, it is up to me to step aside) call up the second (after me) Medical Power of Attorney, my sister's husband. In this way he could make the decision and give the orders. It spares the spouse from giving the "word". As an in-law I think he would have an easier time doing this than my blood family. But I gotta tell you I beleive food and water are NOT extrodinary measures and have spelled that out completely.

I am rather shocked that my parents want food and water withheld from them. It will be hard for me to do, God forbid I should ever have to, knowing my own beliefs. I personally could not do that, I would make my big brother or my 2 sisters do that.
289 posted on 11/05/2003 6:41:24 PM PST by Lone Voice in the hinterlands
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To: Theodore R.
>> She is waiting for a formal Catholic wedding

I can't quite picture the church letting her do it. Maybe if she waited until a full 24 hours after Terri's funeral, wore a black maternity frock out of respect, and got her little bastards baptized at the same time...

290 posted on 11/05/2003 6:42:06 PM PST by T'wit
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To: FL_engineer
And then there is also Terri's 19th wedding anniversary coming up in a few days NOVEMBER 8th

Why would anyone want to celebrate that?

291 posted on 11/05/2003 6:43:34 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: FL_engineer
"And then there is also Terri's 19th wedding anniversary coming up in a few days NOVEMBER 8th"

Somehow I doubt that she'd much want to remember that at this point. Wouldn't it be wonderful if by yet another miracle, that was the day that ownership guardianship reverted back to her family?

292 posted on 11/05/2003 6:44:13 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Theodore R.
Schiavo has dehydrated and starved both parents already too

He's done this to his parents?

293 posted on 11/05/2003 6:45:22 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Yes, that's what it says in the Larry King Live transcript. Schiavo said that starvation and dehydration are a "painless" way to die, but we know that he is a liar on that point too.
294 posted on 11/05/2003 6:46:43 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Reporting which doctor REFUSED to re-insert it (under the apparent direct threats of MS at the hospital after the law was passed) .... THAT is worth reporting.

I agree.....the Doctor that let that monster intimidate him is nothing but a "low life", imho.

295 posted on 11/05/2003 6:47:05 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: Theodore R.; sweetliberty
that's what it says in the Larry King Live transcript

I didn't know that...I couldn't watch that night and haven't read the transcript......perhaps sweetliberty could direct me to it.... : )

296 posted on 11/05/2003 6:48:06 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: T'wit
Or maybe if she just pays a "rental fee" for use of the building, the wedding can go forward.
297 posted on 11/05/2003 6:48:54 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: nicmarlo
I have highlighted that point on a previous message, but it was a day or two ago, and I cannot find it readily.
298 posted on 11/05/2003 6:49:28 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
Theo (can I call you Theo?)
100% I agree with you, it is all about the money.

It is what I wrote Judge Greer.
#1 Follow the Money
#2 Follow the Money
#3 Follow the Money

I wish I knwo how to post with a big font, would someone who knows how to post with a big font please re-post in a large font with the correct e-mail address for Judge Greer
It is ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us
This e-mail address should be psoted with a BIG FONT so that people notice it and e-mail him.

I resent my e-mail using the corrected address.

Theo - I would soooooo LOVE to see a new Guardian get appointed and have Terri Divorce him and have MS pay alimony. I never thought of this and you are so right on about this. Would THAT not be sweet?
299 posted on 11/05/2003 6:50:49 PM PST by Lone Voice in the hinterlands
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To: Theodore R.
She wants to make the kids legitimate and unite them formally with the "father."

There's a lot to be said for NOT uniting them formally with that father. Non-husbands are a lot easier to shed, if you should ever have to...
300 posted on 11/05/2003 6:52:07 PM PST by Graymatter
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