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Ca Lawyer Shooting: And Nobody Had a Gun
Sierra Times ^ | 3 November 2003 | Carl F. Worden

Posted on 11/05/2003 9:52:26 AM PST by 45Auto

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To: 45Auto
After seeing the video of this nutjob, I'm really considering an upgrade from 9mm.
41 posted on 11/05/2003 1:47:46 PM PST by AngryJawa ("The bang is great, but the shockwave is where it’s at.")
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To: joebellis
I'm for "shall issue" CCW, certainly. But it will be a cold day in hell before it passes in Cali.
42 posted on 11/05/2003 1:52:00 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: AngryJawa
After seeing the video of this nutjob, I'm really considering an upgrade from 9mm.

Do. 9mm is nothing but .45 ACP set on "stun". ;-)

43 posted on 11/05/2003 1:52:01 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . sed, ut scis, quis homines huiusmodi intellegere potest?. . .)
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To: AngryJawa
Let's say someone with a legal CCW (not likely in CA, but let's pretend) ran 50 yards to the aid of that lawyer and then put the attacker down. How much trouble would he be in?


If you see someone gunning down a cowering person, there is no doubt that the gunner is the wrongdoer. (Contrast the case where a man holds another man at gunpoint, and could be an undercover cop making an arrest.)

If there is no moral doubt that you are witnessing an attempt at murder, then you have every right to use deadly force to stop the attack. And that means firing as many bullets as needed until the attacker lacks the capacity to continue his murderous attack.

But there is something to be said (by many self defense instructors) that if the victim isn't an innocent known to you, take cover, call 911, and be a good witness. Your instinct and conscience will probably take over at the time anyway.
44 posted on 11/05/2003 4:29:33 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Beelzebubba
"Perhaps you are trying to be cute, or maybe you have "issues" with certain professionals, but your comment is despicable, and makes me sick.

Duhhh...if you don't realize that there are too many lawyers in the world, most if not all out to beat the system, or redefine the letter of the laws with their wisdom, then you're the sick one.

Lawyers today, in general, are a bunch of worthless assholes, period, end of statement.

45 posted on 11/05/2003 7:46:25 PM PST by harpu
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To: harpu
You seem not to know any honest hard working lawyers.

There are many.

Too bad for you.
46 posted on 11/05/2003 8:00:28 PM PST by moodyskeptic (weekend warrior in the culture war)
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To: moodyskeptic
You seem not to know any honest hard working lawyers.

There are many.

Too bad for you.

Why should we have even the slightest pity or compassion for the shot-up shyster when the state government in which he was an officer of the court felt he was either so untrustworthy or inept as to not be trusted with such a basic civic responsibility as participating in his own personal defence and that of his fellow citizens.

In addition to the other evils that will befall you as a condition of being disarmed, it will cause you to be despised.

--Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince

47 posted on 11/05/2003 9:20:36 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: harpu
Lawyers today, in general, are a bunch of worthless assholes, period, end of statement.

My daughter and son-in-law are lawyers, graduates of the U. Texas Law School. Would you like to rephrase, or would you like to talk to my daughter? I'd rephrase if I were you, she can get nasty, in two languages in fact.

48 posted on 11/05/2003 9:21:57 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Beelzebubba
I hope some day you find your liberties infringed, and no lawyer willing to help you. Or perhaps a loved one of yours could take up the profession, then you can think about them being murdered on a sidewalk while doing their job to support their family.

And that is precisely why lawyers, and the venue in which they decide how much *equal justice under the law* citizens can purchase through their exclusive monopolies, are despised and there are those who would not only enjoy seeing those practicioners of law hanhing from utility poles, but will assist those doing so should that event come to pass in their locales.

-archy-/-

49 posted on 11/05/2003 9:25:22 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: El Gato
My daughter and son-in-law are lawyers, graduates of the U. Texas Law School. Would you like to rephrase, or would you like to talk to my daughter?

I would far prefer to have a Texas lawyer, male or female, assist me in a defence, legal or personal, far mo so than a pathetic sheep creature who hides behind a tree while a dissatisfied customer shoots holes in him.

baaaaaa! Noooooo! please don't kill me, I'll be a good sheep! Baaaaaaaaa!

-archy-/-

50 posted on 11/05/2003 9:28:24 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: harpu
...there are too many lawyers in the world...


How can you tell? Last time I looked, when something was high priced, it meant that there was a relatively low supply compared to the demand.

Your emotions have let you buy into the myth that the US has an unusually high number of law practioners per capita, compared to other nations.
51 posted on 11/05/2003 10:24:15 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: archy
And that is precisely why lawyers, and the venue in which they decide how much *equal justice under the law* citizens can purchase through their exclusive monopolies...


Your legislature of state supreme court grants that monopoly. You are too blinded by hatred to realize that.

Your broad hate speech is truly despicable.
52 posted on 11/05/2003 10:26:30 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Tailback
The lawyer was never in any danger because the shooter wasn't using silver bullets.

Silver bullets? What he really needed was a Crucifix and a stake through the heart.

53 posted on 11/05/2003 10:34:26 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: AngryJawa
After seeing the video of this nutjob, I'm really considering an upgrade from 9mm.

I thought the same thing. Either the shooter was the worst marksman in creation or he needed to upgrade to a 1911.

54 posted on 11/05/2003 10:39:00 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Beelzebubba
If there is no moral doubt that you are witnessing an attempt at murder, then you have every right to use deadly force to stop the attack. And that means firing as many bullets as needed until the attacker lacks the capacity to continue his murderous attack.

You obviously don't live in California. /sarcasm

55 posted on 11/05/2003 10:42:15 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Beelzebubba; moodyskeptic; El Gato
Lawyers are like tits on a boar hog...and I don't give a flying flip about how many languages they can speak, or how nasty they can be. Lawyers have been a DRAIN (like a virus) on today's society rather than a plus to its future.

I stand by my beliefs; "there are too many lawyers in the world, most if not all out to beat the system, or redefine the letter of the laws with their wisdom, then you're the sick one."

Lawyers today, in general, are a bunch of worthless assholes, period, end of statement.

56 posted on 11/06/2003 7:45:37 AM PST by harpu
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