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New Hampshire Still Least-Generous State
AP/Yahoo ^ | Tue Nov 4, 8:51 PM ET | STEPHEN FROTHINGHAM

Posted on 11/05/2003 11:33:32 AM PST by Beelzebubba

CONCORD, N.H. - New Hampshire is holding tightly to its distinction as the stingiest state, according to an annual index of charitable giving.

For the last three of five years, New Hampshire has been at the bottom of the "Generosity Index," which compares what residents of each state earn and how much they give. New Hampshire surrendered the miserly title to Rhode Island the other two years.

New Hampshire residents donated $462 million, an average of about $2,400 per taxpayer, according to The Catalogue for Philanthropy. That looks especially stingy considering the state's relative wealth. Its average income of $51,000 is eighth-highest in the country, while its average giving ranks 48th.

By comparison, Mississippi, the most generous state, had an average income of $34,000 — the lowest in the country. But residents still gave enough to match the national average of $3,500 a person.

The index reflects itemized charitable donations reported on 2001 federal tax returns, the latest available.

New Hampshire's New England neighbors — Rhode Island, Vermont, Connecticut and Maine — are all among the 20 least generous states.

By comparison, Bible Belt states like Mississippi, Arkansas, Alabama, Tennessee, Louisiana and South Carolina are all among the top 10.

The regional difference has been attributed to the Southern Christian practice of tithing — giving a tenth of your income to the church.

But Deborah Schachert, the director of Giving New Hampshire, is skeptical. Her program was founded in 2000 to promote and increase philanthropy in the state.

"There are no simple answers. We're talking about a profound change over time in the culture of giving across the whole state," she said.

The Catalogue for Philanthropy is a Needham, Mass.-based nonprofit that publishes a directory of nonprofit organizations. The organization created the index seven years ago.

This year's rankings reveal how Americans responded to the economic turndown, spokesman Marty Cohn said.

Overall, the country's average adjusted gross income fell 3 percent from 2000 to 2001, but itemized charitable donations fell more quickly, by 4 percent. Some states responded with increased charitable giving; others reduced it.

Hawaiians, for example, saw their income decline 1.1 percent, but increased giving by 4.7 percent. In Nebraska, income fell 2.8 percent and giving fell 17.4 percent, the sharpest decline.

In New Hampshire, income fell 6.5 percent and giving declined 12.3 percent. ___

On the Net: www.catalogueforphilanthropy.org

Giving New Hampshire: www.givingnh.org


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Mississippi; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: generosity; giving; philanthropy
When 20 of the 20 most generous states went for Bush in 2000, and 17 of the 22 stingiest states went for Gore, one wishes that this article had told the real story, rather than headline the anomalous stingy and conservative state.

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1 posted on 11/05/2003 11:33:33 AM PST by Beelzebubba
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To: Beelzebubba
Well they heard Bush tout compassion and they shrieked away from it.
2 posted on 11/05/2003 11:38:01 AM PST by Naspino (I am in no way associated with the views expressed in your posts.)
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To: Beelzebubba
What is the tax rate for $51,000 in NH? It is hard to give contributions when a large portion of incomes is stolen.
3 posted on 11/05/2003 11:38:44 AM PST by CSM (Shame on me for attacking an unarmed person, a smoke gnatzie!)
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To: Beelzebubba
The index reflects itemized charitable donations reported on 2001 federal tax returns, the latest available.

Perhaps the people of New Hampshire prefer to donate directly - a loan, a ride or a meal to a friend, neighbor or family member in need.

That way they know where their donation is going and isn't being embezzled or misspent as so sadly happens in large charitible organizations with high overheads.

Imagine that. Giving to someone all by yourself, without some big faceless impersonal organization. Who knows, one might get to know their neighbors better.

4 posted on 11/05/2003 11:42:01 AM PST by freeeee
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To: Beelzebubba
They look pretty generous to me:


5 posted on 11/05/2003 11:53:20 AM PST by AdamSelene235 (I always shoot for the moon......sometimes I hit London.- Von Braun)
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To: CSM
What is the tax rate for $51,000 in NH?

The income tax rate is the same for all incomes in New Hampshire, zero. There is no state income tax.

There are three reasons New Hampshire citizens are not known for charity. One is, most New Hanpshire citizens support themselves. The seond is, those who do not support themselves, because they cannot, are often taken care by others with little of no fanfare, so they aren't looking for a handout (they cannot be counted) and those supporting them don't show up in the charity figures.

The final reason New Hapshire citizens are not noted for their charity is because they really don't believe people ought to be beggers and feel those who promote the welfare and charity roles are harming their neighbor.

I know a great many New Hapshire citizens who actually provide more help than any of these organized charities. Only those who know those people personally or are the recipients know about it. New Hapshire people generally believe in minding their own business, and expect others to also.

Hank

6 posted on 11/05/2003 11:57:13 AM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: freeeee
and perhaps they are just plain stingy
7 posted on 11/05/2003 11:59:55 AM PST by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: AdamSelene235
is some of this not because of military bases
8 posted on 11/05/2003 12:01:42 PM PST by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: y2k_free_radical
What are your thoughts on post #6?

Chartiy needn't be formal or organized, and independent minded people frequently prefer it not be. For example I've been giving rides to a friend who is between jobs. That and I spent over $500 this month rehabilitating a stray dog. I wouldn't have given that much to any organization, but being personally involved persueded me. None of that will show up on the report cited by the article.

9 posted on 11/05/2003 12:06:29 PM PST by freeeee
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To: Hank Kerchief
Interesting information. Maybe I should move on in!
10 posted on 11/05/2003 12:09:18 PM PST by CSM (Shame on me for attacking an unarmed person, a smoke gnatzie!)
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To: Beelzebubba
Wow, what a great concrete example of a practical difference in liberalism and conservativism. Liberals are stingy while conservatives are generous.

Or is it that liberals are *collectively* generous, preferring a system of state charity, while conservatives are individually generous, relying on individuals and private organizations? That's really it, isn't it. This article points to a difference in the *type* of generosity preferred by liberals and conservatives rather than in the absolute degree of generosity. It reinforces what we knew already: that liberals rely on the power of government to force you to be virtuous, and conservatives leave it up to your conscience.

Now, which one of these approaches seems more fitting for a nation of responsible, sovereign, *adult* citizens?


11 posted on 11/05/2003 12:14:45 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: freeeee
Excellent points.

Most all our donations never show up in those reports, and I don't know if the Salvation Army was polled.

Cheers.
12 posted on 11/05/2003 12:15:46 PM PST by lodwick (Wake up, America!)
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To: Beelzebubba
I've spent a lot of time in NH, visting my wife's family there. They don't need much charity in NH. They take care of themselves.

They're a very hardy people, even the poor. You've got to take care of business up in that country, or you'll freeze to death in the winter.

Evolution took out the loosers there generations ago.

13 posted on 11/05/2003 12:16:36 PM PST by narby
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To: AdamSelene235
Interesting, Georgia and FL are the closest two states for a dollar to dollar ratio for taxs taken and gotten.
14 posted on 11/05/2003 12:17:25 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Beelzebubba
The index reflects itemized charitable donations reported on 2001 federal tax returns, the latest available.

Perhaps this study merely reflects the fact the that citizens of New Hampshire, being more well off, can afford to be more honest on their schedule A's than the citizens of poorer states like Mississippi.

15 posted on 11/05/2003 12:34:36 PM PST by wideminded
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To: freeeee
i agree with you-that is best-perhaps i am just plain RONG
16 posted on 11/05/2003 1:55:21 PM PST by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: Yardstick
Most libs i know are generous with OTHER PEOPLES MONEY but tight fisted with their own
17 posted on 11/05/2003 1:57:12 PM PST by y2k_free_radical (ESSE QUAM VIDERA-to be rather than to seem)
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To: Yardstick
Or is it that liberals are *collectively* generous, preferring a system of state charity, while conservatives are individually generous, relying on individuals and private organizations?


Or...

Liberals are generous at giving away other people's money, while conservatives prefer to give away their own money.
18 posted on 11/05/2003 5:05:54 PM PST by Beelzebubba
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To: Beelzebubba
The index reflects itemized charitable donations reported on 2001 federal tax returns, the latest available.

Could the Granite Staters be filing honest tax returns? or are they just investing in ammo? Live Free or Die!

19 posted on 11/05/2003 5:14:46 PM PST by kaboom
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To: Beelzebubba
Liberals are great at TAKING money but poor at sharing.

The very reason one becomes liberal is because of their inability to compete in a free society. If compassion were the reason to turn to liberalism it would bother them that ;

Babies are killed for economic reasons.

It would bother them that Ted Kennedy killed Mary Jo.

It would bother them that FDR created concentration camps filled with US Citizens.

It would bother them that the Gulf of Tonkin Incident was staged so LBJ could be President.

It would bother them that the most powerful man on the planet would use his influence over a young intern

I could go on for more space than the servers at Freep have!
20 posted on 11/05/2003 7:37:32 PM PST by Kay Soze ('Tis safer in Sunni triangle than in the liberally controlled area known as Los Angeles.)
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