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Schwarzenegger Appoints Ted Kennedy Pal to Top Post (I tried to warn you)
The Insider, Sacramento Bee ^ | November 4, 2003 | Daniel Weintraub

Posted on 11/06/2003 8:36:38 AM PST by Saundra Duffy

Edited on 04/12/2004 6:00:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Saundra Duffy
but you know it doesn't feel too good getting screwed by the likes of Teddy Kennedy.

How would you know? You dont' allow any in your house or anything, remember? ;0)

251 posted on 11/06/2003 1:16:34 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (The Truth is to see The Gift)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I'll show you whining!

I'm trying reeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaally hard to be nice right now... so, I'll just let that one go...

252 posted on 11/06/2003 1:22:23 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (The Truth is to see The Gift)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Trying to preach to the mob again?

Good luck.

Would suggest hand signals.

253 posted on 11/06/2003 1:55:34 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Chad Fairbanks
How would you know? You dont' allow any in your house or anything, remember?

Okay, I asked for that one. LOL!

254 posted on 11/06/2003 3:23:11 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: muleskinner
Alright! Another thilly thread brought to you by Drama Queen Duffy.

All right is two words.

255 posted on 11/06/2003 3:24:09 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Amerigomag
Would suggest hand signals.

I'm a trained interpreter for the deaf.

256 posted on 11/06/2003 3:24:52 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: deport
Another "The sky is falling!!! moment?

Pssst..don't say this out loud, or say you heard it from me, but......Ahnold is married to Maria Shriver, and I THINK she is Teddie's neice.

257 posted on 11/06/2003 3:28:11 PM PST by Neets
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To: Saundra Duffy
I'm a trained interpreter for the deaf.

Combine that skill with experience in teaching the brain dead and you've got a chance on FR these days.

We're all going to be academically challeneged in mid February to handle the spin from the mob when the economic rubber meets the road.

Keepracticing.

258 posted on 11/06/2003 3:32:54 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Saundra Duffy
hey, thanks for calling this 46yr old 'kiddo'. I love it! :)
259 posted on 11/06/2003 3:43:33 PM PST by Boxsford
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To: Consort
And you'll you just have to deal with me. I don't give a flying fig about previous threads or future threads.
260 posted on 11/06/2003 3:59:31 PM PST by Boxsford
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To: Saundra Duffy
Heh heh heh ;0)
261 posted on 11/06/2003 4:12:23 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (The Truth is to see The Gift)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Sorry I'm so late to the party. Thanks for exercising some of the folks on the forum. They have been kind of quiet of late. Winning does that to folks, I reckun. They still maintain their rapier wit and ability to hurl insults at will, tho.

So much for freedom of speech these days, well thought out or not. Personal attacks serve no one well here, imo.

Heck , Arnold hasn't even officially started but he has definitely assembled a political Motley Crew and in only a few weeks. Impressive! Soon enough, we will get to sample the pudding.

I am impressed that he jumped right into the thick of things fire-wise, not that it will have that much of an effect help-wise near-term, but ya never know.

As far as appointments , I hope Rairdon and Arnold work to get the textbooks currently used in the schools tossed and replaced with ones that are supportive of values and the truth about our history and our nation and its founders and supporters and detractors.

This is one of the things Busty crowed about being such a big backer of was getting new textbooks in the classrooms, the problem being they are so slanted, they won't lay flat. Of course, that means taking on school boards and districts and the infidels thereon.

Maybe Dick can use some of his old artillery triangulation skills to zero in on that as one of his goals, that and waste and a bloated bureaucracy in the educational system.

The crap that is being taught to our kids today in the leftist curriculum statewide needs to be stopped or all our efforts will be for naught.

PS - I'm jealous. Most of my threads only draw a couple posts lately. I may have to try changing my name or something.

PPS - And only a couple of slams of Tom to boot, woohooo!!

NR
262 posted on 11/06/2003 5:39:11 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Burkeman1
"I do live in Massachusetts where you can't take a step and not run into a liberal..."

Not quite the same dynamic here in Central Virginny...and as I tend to wear my conservative loyalties on my sleeve, a lotta folks who just appear non-partisan around me may be closet Lib'rals. I worked with a pretty good carpenter friend who was extremely Lib'ral and me and him eventually had to throw hands and are not friends any longer...LOL!! What set him off was my insistence on listening to Rush 3 hours per day, five days per week.

FReegards...MUD

263 posted on 11/06/2003 5:57:51 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: onyx
LOL ; )
264 posted on 11/07/2003 12:57:45 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take a chance?)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
"Orrin Hatch is one of Ted Kennedy's best friends. Are you saying, therefore, that all one has to know about Orrin Hatch is that he is friends with Ted Kennedy in order to understand his politics."

Oh you mean RINO, Orrin Hatch??

Figures....

265 posted on 11/07/2003 8:14:07 AM PST by F16Fighter (CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN: Lying Neworks that promote LIES.)
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To: F16Fighter
RINO means Republican In Name Only

Since so many on this site refuse to be associated with the Republican party, should they be using this an an invective? Hatch is Conservative and is Republican. To say otherwise is not to know his legislative record or to be so out of tune with the Republican Party or the Conservative movement as to be aptly labeled "fringe" and to be disregarded as a voice of competency.

266 posted on 11/07/2003 8:31:03 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: BillyBoy
Democrats voted for Reagan, does the same logic apply?
267 posted on 11/07/2003 9:38:00 AM PST by FFIGHTER
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To: Saundra Duffy
There is a rumor that Governor-elect Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to allow Democrats to continue to live in California and God forbid Independents as well. That does it for me.[/sarcasm]
268 posted on 11/07/2003 9:41:40 AM PST by FFIGHTER
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
"Hatch is Conservative and is Republican. To say otherwise is not to know his legislative record or to be so out of tune with the Republican Party or the Conservative movement as to be aptly labeled 'fringe' and to be disregarded as a voice of competency."

So sayeth you, and duly noted....

I OTOH I recognize "compassionate conservativism" when I see it. The term "compromised principle" is also an associative condition that allows Rats to lie and take pot shots at traditional conservative issues without the GOP hierarchy returning damaging retributive fire. Your man Hatch is a prime offender. Perhaps he doesn't want to embarrass his fellow Democratic committee members and "friends" like Kennedy.

269 posted on 11/07/2003 12:51:53 PM PST by F16Fighter (CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN: Lying Neworks that promote LIES.)
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To: FFIGHTER; Saundra Duffy
"There is a rumor that Governor-elect Arnold Schwarzenegger is going to allow Democrats to continue to live in California and God forbid Independents as well. That does it for me.[/sarcasm]"

There's another "rumor" as well...

...That there are GOP Kool-Ade guzzlers who actually believe Arnold won't enact a slew of liberal-socialist/pro-Democratic platform programs during the tenure of his Governorship.

270 posted on 11/07/2003 12:59:31 PM PST by F16Fighter (CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN: Lying Neworks that promote LIES.)
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To: Hildy
You wrote:

"So friggin what, she's a FRIEND of Ted Kennedy's? Ted Kennedy shouldn't have any friends?"

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No he shouldn't...(g) And in my perfect world...."Big Ted" would be given plastic surgery to make him appear to be half-man, half-pig. Then made to walk thru downtown Tikrit, Iraq.

Does that help?

Fwiw-

271 posted on 11/07/2003 1:19:04 PM PST by Osage Orange (Today's Republican's are the Mod. Democrats of J.F.K's era, and today's Democrats are Socialists)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
You wrote;

" Hatch is Conservative and is Republican."

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Without checking you...and for the sake of argument...I'll agree.

But how does the above square with his apparent "need" to legitimize illegal aliens? Is it conservative to "award" illegal behaviour? Is it even Republican?

fwiw-

272 posted on 11/07/2003 1:25:58 PM PST by Osage Orange (Today's Republican's are the Mod. Democrats of J.F.K's era, and today's Democrats are Socialists)
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To: Osage Orange
I guess I don't think about Teddy as much as you seem to do.
273 posted on 11/07/2003 1:35:19 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Saundra Duffy
What a shame, Saundra.
You worked so hard to recall Davis......and for what?
Doesn't bode well for Bush, if this RINO screws up California!
274 posted on 11/07/2003 1:35:40 PM PST by mickie
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To: Osage Orange
I make both sides mad when it comes to immigration and illegal immigration because while we need to stop illegal immigration, "shootin' em as they cross the border" isn't the way I would think would be most effective and reflective of our National morality.

That being said, I disagree with Hatch if he wants to give a blanket amnesty. I think he is wrong. But being wrong on an issue is not enough for me to label someone as an enemy. Too many on this site view even a variance of one vote enough to forever label them a traitor to this or that cause.

For example, being friends with a Liberal for many here is enough to disqualify you for any position. I think that is wrong as well. Doesn't make me wish they would get banned though.

275 posted on 11/07/2003 1:36:06 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Hildy
You wrote:

"I guess I don't think about Teddy as much as you seem to do."

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LOL!! You missed the (g). Sorry, if I wasn't clear on that.

But come on...you base your apparent conclusion that I think more about Uncle Teddy than you...on one post, consisting of 2 or 3 sentences?

Oh wait, wait..hold the phone I just re-read your post..It said, "You "guessed". Okay I get it now....Sorry.

FWIW-

276 posted on 11/07/2003 1:48:24 PM PST by Osage Orange (Today's Republican's are the Mod. Democrats of J.F.K's era, and today's Democrats are Socialists)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
You wrote:

"I make both sides mad when it comes to immigration and illegal immigration because while we need to stop illegal immigration, "shootin' em as they cross the border" isn't the way I would think would be most effective and reflective of our National morality." =======================================================

That's one heck of a description of the "sides"...!! Yikes..!!

I don't know of anyone who truly advocates "shootin'em as they cross".

Do you really think that's how the "sides" shape up?

That being said, I disagree with Hatch if he wants to give a blanket amnesty. I think he is wrong. But being wrong on an issue is not enough for me to label someone as an enemy. Too many on this site view even a variance of one vote enough to forever label them a traitor to this or that cause. =====================================================

Fair enough. And I agree to your point. But in totality, Mr. Orrin Hatch has "turned over" enough for my taste. I don't think him a "traitor" though. But if I lived in Utah....I'd work to see him defeated. He comes across too often...as all bark, no bite.

For example, being friends with a Liberal for many here is enough to disqualify you for any position. I think that is wrong as well. Doesn't make me wish they would get banned though."

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I've co-worker's, & family that are liberal. Some are Marxist's even....I'm friendly with them....but I'm not "friends" with them. We don't pal around together...

I don't think that should disqualify them or me...from any "positions". But I darn well bet you...that my being a Conservative & a Christian....will ABSOLUTELY..get me disqualified from "positions" in "their" world.

FWIW-

277 posted on 11/07/2003 2:12:24 PM PST by Osage Orange (Today's Republican's are the Mod. Democrats of J.F.K's era, and today's Democrats are Socialists)
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To: FFIGHTER
>> Democrats voted for Reagan, does the same logic apply? <<

No, since they were yellow-dog conservative Democrats, not socialist Ted Kennedy Democrats. The types of Democrats Reagan got (pro-life, pro-gun) would NEVER vote for Arnold or George Ryan. Not to worry though, they have Hollyweird and the Green Party commies to make up for it.

278 posted on 11/07/2003 2:21:33 PM PST by BillyBoy (George Ryan deserves a long term...without parole.)
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To: 68 grunt
>> It is a Republican party that WINS ELECTIONS.
Right on! Saundra should deal with it, or seek her mountaintop.
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Sorry, Arnold won as many "elections" as one-termer George Ryan did. Wait until 2004 and 2006 until you gloat that your RINO trash has won "elections". All the evidence with precious RINO governors in their ELECTION resulted in a Democrat sweep four years later.

279 posted on 11/07/2003 2:24:29 PM PST by BillyBoy (George Ryan deserves a long term...without parole.)
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To: Osage Orange
Yeah, I think if you read some of the threads about immigration here you will see that there is a fringe portion of people who would shoot to kill anyone illegally entering the country. Scary but true.

I'm all for immigration, it keeps us fresh with new hungry blood. But I'm also for the "American Melting Pot" as opposed to the "American Stew". I believe in diversity within a culture, not diversity of cultures. So I am for legal immigration, against illegal immigration, and am opposed to the extremists on both sides.

280 posted on 11/07/2003 2:34:34 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
You wrote:

"Yeah, I think if you read some of the threads about immigration here you will see that there is a fringe portion of people who would shoot to kill anyone illegally entering the country. Scary but true."

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I think people talk "big" all the time.....Many couldn't, nor wouldn't "walk that talk".

Now I also think if you choose to break up the argument in the way that you did...you end up instantly polarizing the anti's. And that was the basis of my reply to you.

"I'm all for immigration, it keeps us fresh with new hungry blood. But I'm also for the "American Melting Pot" as opposed to the "American Stew". I believe in diversity within a culture, not diversity of cultures. So I am for legal immigration, against illegal immigration, and am opposed to the extremists on both sides."

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Basically I agree..........although I think that our naturalization and immigration laws are badly in need of reform. For instance..there is NO WAY in the world that we should allow that a baby born here is automatically a U.S. citizen.

Fwiw-

281 posted on 11/07/2003 4:01:23 PM PST by Osage Orange (Today's Republican's are the Mod. Democrats of J.F.K's era, and today's Democrats are Socialists)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
You wrote:

"Yeah, I think if you read some of the threads about immigration here you will see that there is a fringe portion of people who would shoot to kill anyone illegally entering the country. Scary but true."

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I think people talk "big" all the time.....Many couldn't, nor wouldn't "walk that talk".

Now I also think if you choose to break up the argument in the way that you did...you end up instantly polarizing the anti's. And that was the basis of my reply to you.

"I'm all for immigration, it keeps us fresh with new hungry blood. But I'm also for the "American Melting Pot" as opposed to the "American Stew". I believe in diversity within a culture, not diversity of cultures. So I am for legal immigration, against illegal immigration, and am opposed to the extremists on both sides."

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Basically I agree..........although I think that our naturalization and immigration laws are badly in need of reform. For instance..there is NO WAY in the world that we should allow that a baby born here is automatically a U.S. citizen.

Fwiw-

282 posted on 11/07/2003 4:01:24 PM PST by Osage Orange (Today's Republican's are the Mod. Democrats of J.F.K's era, and today's Democrats are Socialists)
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To: Osage Orange
Sorry for the double post...

Not sure how that happened, acutally.

283 posted on 11/07/2003 4:02:27 PM PST by Osage Orange (Today's Republican's are the Mod. Democrats of J.F.K's era, and today's Democrats are Socialists)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I understand your concerns. Hopefully, you have nothing to worry about, but, I'd be worried a little also.
284 posted on 11/07/2003 6:16:47 PM PST by Travelgirl
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
"I believe in diversity within a culture, not diversity of cultures. So I am for legal immigration, against illegal immigration, and am opposed to the extremists on both sides."

Just perfect. Do you happen to author those 'Ad Council' commercials we see on the tube?

I see in your Kumbaya world, no one's "right" or "wrong" except those nuts on the "fringe," OR folks who stand on principle

BTW, I'll bet your personal vehicle must be the color gray.

285 posted on 11/07/2003 8:34:17 PM PST by F16Fighter (CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN: Lying Neworks that promote LIES.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
She is an "advisor." That means she can not do SQUAT except nag in Ahhnold's ear. If one were a Calguv and had to appoint a token liberal to some position, this would be it.

Thought he was going to get rid of that kind of waste in government?

286 posted on 11/08/2003 9:25:34 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I'm sure your tongue is firmly tucked into your cheek. :)
287 posted on 11/08/2003 9:26:46 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: F16Fighter
Ummm, the "American Melting Pot" is not a new idea. The idea that as everybody comes into the country they add their own experiences and cultural identity to our common culture is the relative strength of our culture.

What the liberals have been pushing for several decades now is the "American Stew" idea, where everybody comes in and keeps their own culture and identity seperate from the common culture.

Sorry if you find the idea of a common culture built from the various cultures of our people so offensive. Think about that next time you have lasagna, or a burrito, or a bratwurst, or sesame chicken, or a gyro, or... Well, you get my point I hope. We have a common culture that has a lot of variation within it. Liberals wish for us to have a lot of independant cultures. The term "Balkanization" comes to mind.

But that's ok, anyone who disagrees with you earns your disdain. Whether they are friends with Ted Kennedy or point out a foolish statement of yours on the internet. Have fun!

288 posted on 11/08/2003 10:45:48 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
"Ummm, the 'American Melting Pot' is not a new idea. The idea that as everybody comes into the country they add their own experiences and cultural identity to our common culture is the relative strength of our culture."

Yes -- in theory incrementally the concept works....but NOT in blocs of hundreds of thousands of today's illegal AND legal immigrant who:

Carve out towns and counties in order to establish mini-"old countries"; Refuse to learn English; refuse to assimilate; reject the learning and respecting and history of America and her standing traditions; Understand the sacrifice in the name of freedom made by prior generations; and who believe America owes them a free ride.

IOW, for most of today's immigrants, America is nothing but a borderless economic vessel -- not a sovereign nation to be blended with as proud and true Americans.

289 posted on 11/08/2003 11:18:47 AM PST by F16Fighter (CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN: Lying Neworks that promote LIES.)
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To: F16Fighter
What has he enacted to-date? Is seeing into the future, a talent of yours?
290 posted on 11/10/2003 7:23:35 AM PST by FFIGHTER
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To: Grando Calrissian
We shouldn't personally demonize individuals just because they have different beliefs than us. That makes us no better than the DUhers who think all conservatives go to Klan rallies and beat their wives.
291 posted on 11/12/2003 1:17:43 PM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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