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Senator John McCain's brother on Jews
Women in Green ^ | 11-3-03

Posted on 11/06/2003 3:52:56 PM PST by SJackson

Senator John McCain's brother on Jews -

There is a lot of worry popping up in the media just now -- "Can Israel Survive?" Don't worry about it. It relates to something that Palestinians, the Arabs, and perhaps most Americans don't realize -- the Jews are never going quietly again. Never. And if the world doesn't come to understand that, then millions of Arabs are going to die. It's as simple as that. Throughout the history of the world, the most abused, kicked-around race of people have been the Jews. Not just during the holocaust of World War II, but for thousands of years. They have truly been "The Chosen People" in a terrible and tragic sense.

The Bible story of Egypt's enslavement of the Jews is not just a story, it is history, if festooned with theological legend and heroic epics. In 70 A.D. the Romans, which had for a long time tolerated the Jews --even admired them as 'superior' to other vassals -- tired of their truculent demands for independence and decided on an early "Solution" to the Jewish problem. Jerusalem was sacked and reduced to near rubble, Jewish resistance was pursued and crushed by the implacable Roman War Machine -- see'Masada'. And thus began The Diaspora, the dispersal of Jews throughout the rest of the world.

Their homeland destroyed, their culture crushed, they looked desperately for the few niches in a hostile world where they could be safe. That safety was fragile, and often subject to the whims of moody hosts. The words 'pogrom', 'ghetto', and 'anti-Semitism' come from this treatment of the first mono-theistic people. Throughout Europe, changing times meant sometimes tolerance, sometimes even warmth for the Jews, but eventually it meant hostility, then malevolence. There is not a country in Europe or Western Asia that at one time or another has not decided to lash out against the children of Moses, sometimes by whim, sometimes by manipulation.

Winston Churchill calls Edward I one of England's very greatest kings. It was under his rule in the late 1200's that Wales and Cornwall were hammered into the British crown, and Scotland and Ireland were invaded and occupied. He was also the first European monarch to set up a really effective administrative bureaucracy, surveyed and censused his kingdom, established laws and political divisions. But he also embraced the Jews. Actually Edward didn't embrace Jews so much as he embraced their money. For the English Jews had acquired wealth -- understandable, because this people that could not own land or office, could not join most of the trades and professions, soon found out that money was a very good thing to accumulate. Much harder to take away than land or a store, was a hidden sock of gold and silver coins. Ever resourceful, Edward found a way -- he borrowed money from the Jews to finance imperial ambitions in Europe, especially France. The loans were almost certainly not made gladly, but how do you refuse your King? Especially when he is 'Edward the Hammer'. Then, rather than pay back the debt, Edward simply expelled the Jews. Edward was especially inventive -- he did this twice. After a time, he invited the Jews back to their English homeland, borrowed more money, then expelled them again.

Most people do not know that Spain was one of the early entrants into The Renaissance. People from all over the world came to Spain in the late medieval period. All were welcome -- Arabs, Jews, other Europeans. The University of Salamanca was one of the great centers of learning in the world -- scholars of all nations, all fields came to Salamanca to share their knowledge and their ideas. But in 1492, Ferdinand and Isabella, having driven the last of Moors from the Spanish Shield, were persuaded by the righteous fundamentalists of the time to announce "The Act of Purification". A series of steps were taken in which all Jews and Arabs and other non-Christians were expelled from the country, or would face the tools and the torches of The Inquisition. From this 'cleansing' come the Sephardic Jews -- as opposed to the Ashkenazis of Eastern Europe. In Eastern Europe, the sporadic violence and brutality against Jews are common knowledge. 'Fiddler' without the music and the folksy humor. At times of fury, no accommodation by the Jew was good enough, no profile low enough, no village poor enough or distant enough.

From these come the near-steady flow of Jews to the United States. And despite the disdain of the Jews by most 'American' Americans, they came to grab the American Dream with both hands, and contributed everything from new ideas of enterprise in retail and entertainment to becoming some of our finest physicians and lawyers. The modern United States, in spite of itself, IS The United States in part because of its Jewish blood.

Then the Nazi Holocaust -- the corralling, sorting, orderly eradication of millions of the people of Moses. Not something that other realms in other times didn't try to do, by the way, the Germans were just more organized and had better murder technology.

I stood in the center of Dachau for an entire day, about 15 years ago, trying to comprehend how this could have happened. I had gone there on a side trip from Munich, vaguely curious about this Dachau. I soon became engulfed in the enormity of what had occurred there nestled in this middle and working class neighborhood.

How could human beings do this to other human beings, hear their cries, their pleas, their terror, their pain, and continue without apparently even wincing? I no longer wonder. At some times, some places, ANY sect of the human race is capable of horrors against their fellow man, whether a member of the Waffen SS, a Serbian sniper, a Turkish policeman in 1920's Armenia, a Mississippi Klansman. Because even in the United States not all was a Rose Garden. For a long time Jews had quotas in our universities and graduate schools. Only so many Jews could be in a medical or law school at one time. Jews were disparaged widely. I remember as a kid Jewish jokes told without a wince - "Why do Jews have such big noses?"

Well, now the Jews have a homeland again. A place that is theirs. And that's the point. It doesn't matter how many times the United States and European powers try to rein in Israel, if it comes down to survival of its nation, its people, they will fight like no lioness has ever fought to save her cubs. They will fight with a ferocity, a determination, and a skill, that will astound us.

And many will die, mostly their attackers, I believe. If there were a macabre historical betting parlor, my money would be on the Israelis to be standing at the end. As we killed the kamikazes and the Wehrmacht soldaten of World War II, so will the Israelis kill their suicidal attackers, until there are not enough to torment them.

The irony goes unnoticed -- while we are hammering away to punish those who brought the horrors of last September here, we restrain the Israelis from the same retaliation. Not the same thing, of course -- We are We, They are They. While we mourn and seethe at September 11th, we don't notice that Israel has a September 11th sometimes every day.

We may not notice, but it doesn't make any difference.

And it doesn't make any difference whether you are pro-Israeli or you think Israel is the bully of the Middle East. If it comes to where a new holocaust looms -- with or without the concurrence of the United States and Europe -- Israel will lash out without pause or restraint at those who would try to annihilate their country.

The Jews will not go quietly again.

Joe McCain

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1 posted on 11/06/2003 3:52:56 PM PST by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
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2 posted on 11/06/2003 3:53:40 PM PST by SJackson ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Winston Churchill)
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To: SJackson
Great article.
3 posted on 11/06/2003 3:56:51 PM PST by MEG33
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To: SJackson
Too bad his brother is a RINO.
4 posted on 11/06/2003 3:58:18 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (CCCP = clinton, chiraq, chretien, and putin = stalin wannabes)
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To: SJackson
the Jews are never going quietly again. Never. And if the world doesn't come to understand that, then millions of Arabs are going to die. It's as simple as that.

YEAH, baby! WOOOOOO-hoooooooo!!! :)

5 posted on 11/06/2003 3:59:54 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: SJackson
The Jews will not go quietly again.

No, the Jews will not be the ones going this time.

5.56mm

6 posted on 11/06/2003 4:02:41 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: SJackson
John McCain's brother. Who knew? :)
7 posted on 11/06/2003 4:05:55 PM PST by veronica ("I just realised I have a perfect part for you in "Terminator 4"....)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran; MEG33
I don't know much about Joe. WIG just sent this out, but actually it's about a year and a half old, just not posted here (?).

More from Joe

Today is an anniversary, which I have not seen mentioned elsewhere.

The anniversary of a shattering moment in which the United States misstepped so badly, we are paying for it this very day.

On February 27th, 1991, the order was sent out to halt all U.S. and allied forces in Iraq. The Iraqi army in shards. . . .the ‘vaunted’ Republican Guard fleeing like frightened children. . . .the most powerful army in the world 24 hours from Baghdad and an end to one of the most miserably cruel despots of our time - of any time.

24 hours from the ‘Mother’ of all victories. A 5-day war!

Instead, we stepped away from this victory and all that it would have meant. To the entire world.

If we had continued, I suggest that Iraq would today be a prosperous nation, with a thriving free market economy giving others a run for their money - literally - just as resulted from our occupation and restructuring of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.

Other thugs would be much more hesitant to challenge the peace - I rather think this strange Kim Jung-IL would be quietly listening to his single radio station, instead of waving in the air history’s most dangerous kinds of weapon, like an infantile bully raging at those who would dare ignore him. He would welcome being overlooked.

And I also opine that September 11th would not have happened, not with a U.S. standard in the center of the Middle East. From that standard, I suggest, would have flowed more power for freedom and good that can be imagined. The cowards would hesitate, the oppressed would come out into the sunlight. And the world would be a far better place.

Not perfect - for we are far from perfect - but a better place for all but the malevolent.

We were told that the reasons given for halting the advance were several - one of them is that to continue would “destabilize the region”.

Well, we can all see that it certainly became a much more stable part of the world.

So now we must not hesitate. Or another moment is gone. Perhaps forever, this time. Who will believe us, in the future? Why should they? Uncle Sam with a big mouth and a paper hat.

And our allies? Ah, France and Germany don’t want this venture, because they know how it would increase the influence of the United States, and cause a proportional decrease in theirs—and their vanity. We can certainly understand why the princes and the dictators of the Middle East don’t want us there. What gang wants a police station in their neighborhood?

There is a tremendous jealousy of this country - it is only natural. We can understand it, be mindful of it, and always, always try to never misuse this incredible power. But we cannot let this international petulance dissuade us from clear and crucial opportunities to make the world a better place. For there is no other country that can. Or will.

Those who scoff at this hubris? Let them look at the world in 1940 and then again in 1946. Let them look at Bosnia before and after, Panama, Grenada. Indeed, let them look at what used to be the USSR and the Warsaw Pact nations in 1990, and today.

Let them especially look at Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, the before and would-be after - the first would be a province of Iraq, the second an eviscerated vassal. The tortures, the maiming, the executions would be uncountable.

And why would the victorious Saddam have stopped there? Did Hitler stop with rearming the Rhineland? Or taking Austria? Or Czechoslovakia? Did Imperial Japan stop with Korea, Borneo, the East Indies, Burma, Indo-China?

We must do this thing, ladies and gentlemen - we must do it for the future of millions upon millions who will be free, who shouldn’t have to fear that a son of Saddam will want to video tape their torture, or that a son-in-law will want his wife or children for sex, or that Saddam himself will settle a regional problem with poison gas or loathsome biology.

We must do this.

And, then, folks, we must turn to North Korea. . . .

--Joe McCain

8 posted on 11/06/2003 4:06:38 PM PST by SJackson ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Winston Churchill)
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To: veronica; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
John McCain's brother. Who knew? :)

See 8

9 posted on 11/06/2003 4:10:11 PM PST by SJackson ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Winston Churchill)
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To: veronica
I don't know too much about his background, other than I believe he's retired military and was nearly slated to oppose Jim Moran in Virginia's 8th district (likely a suicide mission).
10 posted on 11/06/2003 4:14:53 PM PST by SJackson ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Winston Churchill)
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To: SJackson
Ah, the wrong brother became a senator.
11 posted on 11/06/2003 4:23:05 PM PST by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: OldFriend
It would seem so.
12 posted on 11/06/2003 4:25:13 PM PST by MEG33
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To: SJackson
Moran has had some "domestic" disputes with his wife. He could snap at any time.
13 posted on 11/06/2003 4:29:29 PM PST by Finalapproach29er ("Don't shoot Mongo, you'll only make him mad.")
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To: SJackson
And it doesn't make any difference whether you are pro-Israeli or you think Israel is the bully of the Middle East.

If it comes to where a new holocaust looms -- with or without the concurrence of the United States and Europe -- Israel will lash out without pause or restraint at those who would try to annihilate their country.

The Jews will not go quietly again.

Count on it!

IT'S IN THE BOOK!

14 posted on 11/06/2003 4:42:52 PM PST by VOYAGER
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To: SJackson
"Can Israel Survive?" Don't worry about it. It relates to something that Palestinians, the Arabs, and perhaps most Americans don't realize -- the Jews are never going quietly again. Never.

I wish I were as optimisic as the Women in Green. My problem is that I know some Women in Red. They wouldn't call themselves that, but to them the Kotel is a place in another world even though they live less than five miles away. They think that they can make peace with the "Palestinians" and some of their leaders do too. Hell! Our own leader thinks so. By the time they find out they are wrong, they will be dead. They're not going to kill Arabs because they believe too much in the "sanctity of life." The Israelis need to decimate (look up the word, and its origins if you think I mean obliterate) their enemy, but they will die themselves first. It's very sad.

ML/NJ

15 posted on 11/06/2003 4:52:12 PM PST by ml/nj
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16 posted on 11/06/2003 4:59:58 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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Well, now the Jews have a homeland again. A place that is theirs. And that's the point. It doesn't matter how many times the United States and European powers try to rein in Israel, if it comes down to survival of its nation, its people, they will fight like no lioness has ever fought to save her cubs. They will fight with a ferocity, a determination, and a skill, that will astound us.

BTTT

17 posted on 11/06/2003 5:35:26 PM PST by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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Great article!!!

New ping list for Islamic Jihad and terrorism. 3 pings per day, every day. Some from my old ping list are on by default.

On or off let me know by freepmail. 
Easy on, easy off, via freepmail.

18 posted on 11/06/2003 6:18:08 PM PST by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: SJackson
G-d Bless the WiG.

Well, now the Jews have a homeland again. A place that is theirs. And that's the point. It doesn't matter how many times the United States and European powers try to rein in Israel, if it comes down to survival of its nation, its people, they will fight like no lioness has ever fought to save her cubs. They will fight with a ferocity, a determination, and a skill, that will astound us.

Doubtful.

The past three/ten years prove exactly the opposite. Time and tactics are on the pallie's side. They'll continue to use salami tactics while breeding like flies. Essentially the whole world is with them: the UN, EU, media, OIC, and half the U.S. (not to mention a significant portion of Israel).

19 posted on 11/06/2003 8:28:06 PM PST by tubavil
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To: SJackson
G-d Bless the WiG.

Well, now the Jews have a homeland again. A place that is theirs. And that's the point. It doesn't matter how many times the United States and European powers try to rein in Israel, if it comes down to survival of its nation, its people, they will fight like no lioness has ever fought to save her cubs. They will fight with a ferocity, a determination, and a skill, that will astound us.

Doubtful.

The past three/ten years prove exactly the opposite. Time and tactics are on the pallie's side. They'll continue to use salami tactics while breeding like flies. Essentially the whole world is with them: the UN, EU, media, OIC, and half the U.S. (not to mention a significant portion of Israel).

20 posted on 11/06/2003 8:28:54 PM PST by tubavil
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To: SJackson
BTTT!
21 posted on 11/06/2003 10:04:09 PM PST by lainde
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To: SJackson
Thank you for a wonderful, inspiring article!
22 posted on 11/06/2003 10:09:52 PM PST by lainde
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To: SJackson
that is an excellent article!
23 posted on 11/07/2003 5:21:57 AM PST by jonalvy44
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To: Salem
Awesome!
24 posted on 11/07/2003 5:36:55 AM PST by spectacularbid2003 (War works)
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To: SJackson
They have truly been "The Chosen People" in a terrible and tragic sense.

Exactly. Anytime anyone ever suggests that Jews harbor any sort of arrogance at being the "chosen people," my reaction is "Yeah, some chosen people." What's the line from Fiddler on the Roof - "why couldn't He have chosen someone else?"

Ironically, Israel's suffering throughout history is one of the (few dozen) things that cements my belief that they ARE God's chosen. Why else would they be the target of such persecution and hate? It's supernatural, no doubt about it.

Great article, thanks for posting.

25 posted on 11/07/2003 7:08:07 AM PST by agrace
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To: ml/nj
In the end, Good ALWAYS triumphs over Evil.
26 posted on 11/07/2003 7:21:33 AM PST by ZULU
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