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Abraham Lincoln Was Elected President 143 Years Ago Tonight
http://www.nytimes.com ^ | 11/06/2003 | RepublicanWizard

Posted on 11/06/2003 7:31:54 PM PST by republicanwizard

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Republicans, Freepers,

Let us remember Abraham Lincoln tonight and be grateful to the memory of this first Republican President, this commoner who grasped grand moral concepts with such clarity. He led this country through a crisis which makes the trials which have faced other Presidents seem trivial in comparison.

Let us also be thankful to have a President of Lincoln's quality in the White House today.

1 posted on 11/06/2003 7:31:55 PM PST by republicanwizard
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To: republicanwizard
It is rumored that Lincoln's Ghost still haunts the White House. I understand that if Hillary is elected to that office, Lincoln will give her some advice....Go tooo the theaterrrrrr.
2 posted on 11/06/2003 7:34:40 PM PST by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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To: republicanwizard
Abraham Lincoln Was Elected President 143 Years Ago Tonight

Terry McAuliffe Demands Recount

3 posted on 11/06/2003 7:35:08 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1016518/posts
4 posted on 11/06/2003 7:36:32 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (The left always "feels your pain" unless of course they caused it.)
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To: republicanwizard
How long before the Lincoln bashers come out to play? 1...2...3...4....
5 posted on 11/06/2003 7:38:08 PM PST by zarf (..where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment?)
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To: Henchman
If she moved in, Abraham Lincoln would move out.
6 posted on 11/06/2003 7:38:24 PM PST by republicanwizard
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Actually, there isn't much difference between the unpatriotic Democrats of Lincoln's days and those of today.
7 posted on 11/06/2003 7:38:56 PM PST by republicanwizard
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To: zarf
If they come, I'll ask the AdminMod to kick them off the thread.
8 posted on 11/06/2003 7:39:16 PM PST by republicanwizard
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To: Grand Old Partisan; Clemenza
Ping!
9 posted on 11/06/2003 7:39:50 PM PST by republicanwizard
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To: republicanwizard
Copperheads.
10 posted on 11/06/2003 7:41:28 PM PST by Redcoat LI ("If you're going to shoot,shoot,don't talk" Tuco BenedictoPacifico Juan Maria Ramirez)
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To: republicanwizard
The canvass for the Presidency of the United States terminated last evening, in all the States of the Union, under the revised regulation of Congress, passed in 1845

What was it which Congress changed in 1845 and what was new after 1845? Was it a single day for all voting in every State?
11 posted on 11/06/2003 7:43:20 PM PST by Mike Fieschko
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bump
12 posted on 11/06/2003 7:45:00 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: TonyRo76; aomagrat; archy; Ligeia; WhowasGustavusFox; sc-rms; catfish1957; THUNDER ROAD; ...
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13 posted on 11/06/2003 7:45:25 PM PST by shuckmaster (www.shucks.net/)
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To: republicanwizard
Bump for the greatest President in American history.

I'd like to agree with your sentiment that the present occupant of the WH has Lincoln's "quality," but such a notion does too much violence to Lincoln's surpassing eloquence and deep intelligence. GWB, for all his decency and strength, is nowhere near the same league. If he were operating with two junior secretarial staffers in the middle of a monumental crisis, as Lincoln did, he'd be completely over his head.

GWB benefits mightily by the quality and ubiquity of his help. Lincoln navigated his own way through a stormy sea.

14 posted on 11/06/2003 7:46:35 PM PST by beckett
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To: Redcoat LI
That is insulting copper.
15 posted on 11/06/2003 7:49:12 PM PST by republicanwizard
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To: Mike Fieschko
I don't know. Good topic for research. I'll check on it and get back to you. Send a freep mail so I don't forget.
16 posted on 11/06/2003 7:49:47 PM PST by republicanwizard
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To: shuckmaster
I never read it. Is it good?
17 posted on 11/06/2003 7:50:10 PM PST by republicanwizard
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To: beckett
Well, neither was Lincoln dealing with a bureacracy the size Bush has.

I'm not saying Bush is Lincoln's equal, but he is certainly closer than any other of our Presidents. No one has dealt with so much tragedy with so much fortitude and moral direction.
18 posted on 11/06/2003 7:51:30 PM PST by republicanwizard
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To: republicanwizard
Lincoln was undoubtedly the worst president in US history. The lasting damage he did to the country and the constitution are unparalleled.

Lincoln used war to destroy the U.S. Constitution in order to establish a powerful central government.

Lincoln illegally suspended the writ of habeas corpus; launched a military invasion without consent of Congress; blockaded Southern ports without declaring war; imprisoned without warrant or trial some 13,000 Northern citizens who opposed his policies; arrested dozens of newspaper editors and owners and, in some cases, had federal soldiers destroy their printing presses; censored all telegraph communication; nationalized the railroads; created three new states (Kansas, Nevada, and West Virginia) without the formal consent of the citizens of those states, an act that Lincoln’s own attorney general thought was unconstitutional; ordered Federal troops to interfere with Northern elections; deported a member of Congress from Ohio after he criticized Lincoln’s unconstitutional behavior; confiscated private property; confiscated firearms in violation of the Second Amendment; and eviscerated the Ninth and Tenth Amendments.

A New Orleans man was executed for merely taking down a U.S. flag; ministers were imprisoned for failing to say a prayer for Abraham Lincoln, and Fort Lafayette in New York harbor became known as "The American Bastille" since it held so many thousands of Northern political prisoners.

Lincoln further arrested legislatures of Maryland who opposed the war and apponted their replacements. He claimed the right to arrest anyone because he had suspended habeas corpus. When the Chief Justus of the Supreme Court declared this unconstitutional Lincoln ordered him arrested too.

Thank God we DON'T have another president like Lincoln in the WHitehouse today!

19 posted on 11/06/2003 7:57:46 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: beckett
Bump for the greatest President in American history.

Regardless of the opinion of Lincoln I've always found it a bit odd how Washington gets ignored in "Greatest President" arguments.

He's so OBVIOUSLY our greatest President even having a debate seems silly. He DEFINED what the office of President is.

Basically, pretty much every armed revolution or civil war in history results in the newly-created government being taken over by a dictator. Washington broke that pattern when he served two terms, refused to be a king, and went home.

Resisting that temptation to be a dictator when you COULD be a dictator is UNBELIEVABLY difficult, even for the most pure-hearted person.

20 posted on 11/06/2003 8:13:16 PM PST by John H K
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