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Dean 'Appalled' That Florida Lawmakers Saved Schiavo
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 11/07/03 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 11/07/2003 2:31:27 AM PST by kattracks

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean, who begins his campaign website greeting with the phrase, "As a medical doctor...," claims Florida Republicans should be "embarrassed" for intervening to save the life of Terri Schindler Schiavo last month. Earlier in the year, Dean publicly expressed his support for physician-assisted suicide.

Dean accused Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Republican state lawmakers of interfering in a "private matter" when they passed "Terri's Law," which allowed Bush to have the 39-year-old disabled woman's feeding tube reconnected after it was removed under court order at her husband's request. The former Vermont governor said he was "appalled" by Bush's intervention.

Terri suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances that left her severely disabled. Her husband, Michael Schiavo, his brother and another brother's wife claim Terri verbally expressed her desire not to be kept alive "artificially" should she ever require life support. Terri's parents and siblings, along with her former co-workers, friends, priests and fellow church members dispute that claim.

"I'm tired of people in the legislature thinking that they have an M.D. when what they really have is a B.S.," the Miami Herald quoted Dean as telling about 200 business and community leaders at the Capital Tiger Bay Club in Tallahassee Tuesday.

Bush spokesman Jacob DiPietre said the governor found Dean's remarks "shameful."

"Gov. Bush," DiPietre said, "doesn't think that it's appropriate for a presidential candidate to be so flip about a serious issue that involves not only protecting the rights of the disabled, but also the fundamental right to life that is guaranteed in the Florida Constitution."

Pamela Hennessy - spokeswoman for Terri's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler - called Dean's comments "a monumental display of bad taste in every way imaginable.

"Obviously, he doesn't know every aspect of the case," Hennessy said, "and I think he's using it as platform just to take a swing, verbally, at Gov. Bush."

Hennessy said she is not surprised, however, at Dean's lack of compassion for Terri.

"Mr. Dean is on record as being in favor of physician-assisted suicide," Hennessy explained.

During an Aug. 20 appearance on Oregon Public Radio, interviewer Colin Fogarty asked Dean, "In general, where do you stand on physician-assisted suicide and Oregon's vote on that issue?" Dean said the question posed "a very difficult moral problem," which he believes should be decided by the states.

"I as a physician would not be comfortable administering lethal drugs," Dean explained, "but I think this a very private, personal decision, and I think individual physicians and patients have the right to make that private decision."

By contrast, Hennessy praised Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.), who is competing with Dean for the Democratic nomination and who also commented on Terri's case.

"He [Lieberman] was smart enough and man enough to see that not everything that happens in life is a question of politics," Hennessy said. "He recognized that, and he didn't turn it into a political fight."

Lieberman, who drew criticism during his 2000 vice presidential bid for waffling on pro-life issues, told the Associated Press in October that he supports Terri's Law.

"I feel very strongly that we ought to honor life, and we ought not to create a system where people are being deprived of nutrition or hydration in a way that ends their lives," Lieberman said.

Hennessy noted that, in advocating for, signing and implementing Terri's Law, Gov. Bush did something she is not accustomed to seeing politicians do.

"When [Jeb Bush] campaigned for governor the first time, he told the people of Florida that he wanted to be a champion for the disabled," Hennessy said. "I think he kept his promise."

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1 posted on 11/07/2003 2:31:27 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
It should suprise no one that Dean believes that the courts are so dense as to not recognize the correct ruling in this case. After all, he as much as said recently that Southerners are too stupid to vote.
2 posted on 11/07/2003 2:34:17 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: johniegrad
Interesting that now a Democrat suddenly gets concerned over government involvement in people's personal decisions.
3 posted on 11/07/2003 2:37:10 AM PST by DeuceTraveler
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To: kattracks
Oh, yeah! This is really gonna get him a lot of fans!

Metrosexual Dean's just making more and more bad choices. I wonder what he'll say/do next week for our humor.

4 posted on 11/07/2003 2:43:04 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: kattracks
I didn't think much of Dean before, but now I hate the guy. First of all, I don't believe for a minute that if this case were in Vermont that he as well wouldn't have given in to the public pressure and done the same thing, whether he agrees or not. I would note that Jeb Bush showed quite a bit of restraint; he hardly jumped on it or got up on a soap box. Secondly, how dare he suggest that the legislature is not qualified to legislate on an issue because medicine is somehow involved. That comment about the MD's and BS's is a really arrogant insult to the legislators in every state. For him to say he's "tired" of them is really offensive. While he may be a doctor, he draws his pay as the Governor of Vermont. Or has he forgotten? Awfully convenient that he can slip on that doctors coat when it suits him politically and try to pull a rank over the legislators and even the Governor of another State. MD or not, just who does he think he is? Finally, it doesn't take an MD to see that this isn't a right to die case at all, it's a right to live, or more specifically a right not to be deprived of life case. At the absolute minimum, reasonable people widely disagree on the issues in this case. Many reasonable people think this may even be a murder case. With such an open and legitimate controversy surrounding the case, an overwhelming preference should be given to preserving the status quo while it can be thoroughly investigated. A quick death and cremation is extremely inappropriate. The Governor's stay and the legislation that permits it are perfectly appropriate to such an important case where so much remains unsettled. Terri has the rest of eternity to be dead, just like all the rest of us. To say that the Governor's stay represents an "interference" in her "right to die" is an absurd and shocking misunderstanding of what's going on here. As a politician, Howard Dean is an arrogant ass. And now that I think about it, I wouldn't want him as my doctor either. I'd rather have Jeb Bush for that too. Better chance of getting fed that way.
5 posted on 11/07/2003 2:45:49 AM PST by Johassen (Veritas Vincit)
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To: kattracks
Pamela Hennessy - spokeswoman for Terri's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler - called Dean's comments "a monumental display of bad taste in every way imaginable.

I can understand why she feels this way, with a trained medical doctor speaking out for the murder of a young woman whose family has gone to such great lengths to save her.

But everyway imaginable? Not for Ditsy Dean. He has found a way to offend pick-up truck drivers, all Southerners, blacks, 2nd ammendment supporters, Greens, even anti-war types, and almost every other Dem vying for the nomination. As far as bad taste and offending groups of people goes, he's equal-opportunity.

7 posted on 11/07/2003 2:50:25 AM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: Johassen
To say that the Governor's stay represents an "interference" in her "right to die" is an absurd and shocking misunderstanding of what's going on here. As a politician, Howard Dean is an arrogant ass. And now that I think about it, I wouldn't want him as my doctor either. I'd rather have Jeb Bush for that too. Better chance of getting fed that way.

Johassen, you nailed it!! Everybody should use this quote whenever a discussion of Dean comes up!

8 posted on 11/07/2003 2:56:02 AM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: kattracks
This is the guy who wants to reach out to Southern voters? Just how, exactly, does he plan to do that?
9 posted on 11/07/2003 3:03:14 AM PST by samtheman
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Says a lot for the quality of the democratic party.
10 posted on 11/07/2003 3:06:00 AM PST by Rocket1968 (Democrats will crash and burn in 2004.)
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To: kattracks
I agree with little Dean has to say about anything ... however, where this issue is concerned he's absolutely right on the money.
11 posted on 11/07/2003 3:11:20 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: kattracks
Hey howie, when you don't make it as president you can always become an abortion doctor (?) performing PBA.

It seems that you have the right ideas along these perverted lines.

12 posted on 11/07/2003 3:15:13 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: johniegrad
< Terri suffered a brain injury in 1990 under questionable circumstances...? >

The law was written for this specific case. The phrase "questionable circumstances" alone warranted it.

If Dean hadn't lost Florida before...he just did.
13 posted on 11/07/2003 3:40:46 AM PST by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance seem to have the least for my views.)
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To: BluH2o
One really needs to walk in those shoes in order to be entitled to an opinion. Keeping someone -- or a pet, for matter -- alive is not always an act of mercy.

I do not equate taking someone off artificial life-support with abortion. One life is viable, the other is not.

14 posted on 11/07/2003 3:43:25 AM PST by The Other Harry
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To: BluH2o
I should have been more clear that I am agreeing with you. And with Dean.
15 posted on 11/07/2003 3:45:44 AM PST by The Other Harry
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To: kattracks
Boy, Ole Dean sure knows how to get those southern votes doesn't he? Lets see now, first it was the confederate flag and pickups, now giving his expertese on death and courts, wonder what will be next. We need to really ENCOURAGE him to keep it up.
16 posted on 11/07/2003 3:49:09 AM PST by gulfcoast6 (Prayers for President Bush please, lets help him out.)
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To: Johassen
If Schavio had been a cop killing career criminal saved from the electric chair by the Florida legislature, Dean would be applauding.
17 posted on 11/07/2003 3:53:05 AM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: kattracks
Metrosexual just fires another round from the loose cannon into his head.
18 posted on 11/07/2003 4:11:00 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: kattracks
I agree with Joe Lieberman. So much for Nikita Dean's respect for state's rights and the right to life. The Left has devolved to the point where it embraces killing as state protected and naturally embraces sociopaths and murderous dictators as allies while scorning the unborn and promoting euthanasia for the helpless. That's the Left's idea of utopia. A safe world for the cruel and vicious amongst us while condemning the innocent to their fate. The famous Talmudic aphorism springs to mind and I'm sure Dr. Dean knows what it means. Its unbelievable a presidential candidate takes a moral dilemma and parleys it into a partisan broadside. Has Dr. Dean no shame? We should expect more from a man aspiring to hold the nation's highest office in the future.
19 posted on 11/07/2003 4:13:46 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: The Other Harry
One life is viable, the other is not.

Well, as far as arrogance is concerned, I can understand why you agree with Ol' Crazy Howard.
20 posted on 11/07/2003 4:15:07 AM PST by kenth (All I wanted was a Pepsi...)
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To: kattracks
"He [Lieberman] was smart enough and man enough to see that not everything that happens in life is a question of politics," Hennessy said. "He recognized that, and he didn't turn it into a political fight."

Lieberman, who drew criticism during his 2000 vice presidential bid for waffling on pro-life issues, told the Associated Press in October that he supports Terri's Law.

"I feel very strongly that we ought to honor life, and we ought not to create a system where people are being deprived of nutrition or hydration in a way that ends their lives," Lieberman said.

LMAO! He didn't turn it into a political fight, because he chose your side, Ms. Hennessy! If he had chosen the same position as Dean, you would be lambasting him, too!

21 posted on 11/07/2003 4:21:07 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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To: kattracks
The word Arrogant comes to mind along with insulting and condescending when the name Howard Dean is mentioned. Consider the following.......

"Vermont's population as of the 2000 census was about 609,000, similar to Milwaukee and several other cities. Vermont's non-white population was 1.6% and its black population was 1/2 of 1%. Vermont is a virtual melting pot of white liberals and cows. It is preposterous and laughable for Dean to suggest he has the experience needed to take on the Presidency of the United States of America, the world's defender of freedom."

22 posted on 11/07/2003 4:31:57 AM PST by yoe (Term Limits - and 2 terms are the limit for all elected to a Federal office!!)
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To: kenth
Well, as far as arrogance is concerned, I can understand why you agree with Ol' Crazy Howard.

I don't think it has anything to do with arrogance. She has been kept alive for more than a decade, using artifical means. It is time to let her go to God. Continuing to keep her alive with respirators and the like does no one any favors. It's time to let her go. Ten years is enough.

23 posted on 11/07/2003 4:32:22 AM PST by The Other Harry
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To: AmericaUnited
Dean is just trying to gain the dead-people votes in Florida who cast their ballots for Gore in the last Presidential election.Go Dizzy !
24 posted on 11/07/2003 4:32:34 AM PST by COUNTrecount
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To: BluH2o
I agree with little Dean has to say about anything ... however, where this issue is concerned he's absolutely right on the money.

Dean is a fool, an idiot and the rear of a donkey. But like you, I AGREE WITH DEAN on this issue.

25 posted on 11/07/2003 4:34:43 AM PST by Drango (Democratic fund rasing... If PBS won't do it, who will?)
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To: Drango
Dean is a fool, an idiot and the rear of a donkey. But like you, I AGREE WITH DEAN on this issue.

One thing I admire about Dean is that takes clear positions. I don't agree with most of them, but at least you know where he stands. That is more than I can say for Arnold.

26 posted on 11/07/2003 4:46:04 AM PST by The Other Harry
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To: kattracks
Dean is way out of line on this one. As a physician he should understand the brashness of offering medical opinion on a patient that he is not personally familiar with. And the "MD vs BS" statement further solidifies his image as an elitist Northern liberal.

I so hope that this guy wins the nomination...
27 posted on 11/07/2003 4:54:01 AM PST by Toskrin
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To: kattracks
Let me get this straight. The government has no right to get involved in keeping this woman alive, but they have the DUTY to provide FREE prescription drugs to all the other elderly people in this great land. Why not save BILLIONS and let them all die naturally?
28 posted on 11/07/2003 4:58:43 AM PST by Living Free in NH (I'm Living Free in NH and I approved this post.)
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To: The Other Harry
I don't think it has anything to do with arrogance. She has been kept alive for more than a decade, using artifical means. It is time to let her go to God. Continuing to keep her alive with respirators and the like does no one any favors. It's time to let her go. Ten years is enough.

She's NOT on respirators and the like. The only reason she was put on a feeding tube was for the convenience of the CAREGIVERS.

29 posted on 11/07/2003 5:14:18 AM PST by CajunConservative
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To: Johassen
As a politician, Howard Dean is an arrogant ass. And now that I think about it, I wouldn't want him as my doctor either.

Very well put; excellent post.

30 posted on 11/07/2003 5:15:25 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: kattracks
This whole thing is not about a persons right to die or assisted suicide!

First of all, a feeding tube is not considered life support, there are a great many people in hospitals that are put on them because feeding them by mouth would endanger their life or they have some physical or muscular situation to make it impractical. It may be a permanent situation or only a temporary one. Feeding by tube is just another way to deliver food and water to the patient.

Second of all, suicide requires the person to make the choice themself. If she sincerly wanted to go that route she should have had a health proxy stating that. As far as I'm concerned, her husbands hearsay should not be considered her proxy in absentia IMO. Be that the case, I thinks it's much better that they error on the side of life especially since she doesn't seem to be suffering from all I have heard or read about it.



31 posted on 11/07/2003 5:15:39 AM PST by SirFishalot
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To: The Other Harry
Continuing to keep her alive with respirators and the like does no one any favors.

It's my understanding that she is NOT being kept alive by respirators and the like. She has a feeding tube. It's also my understanding, that he reneged on his duty to provide her (very early on)with physical therapy, and other care that would have been beneficial to her well being.

I don't understand the rush to end her life. If her parents and brothers and sisters want to care for her, let them. The husband should just get a divorce, marry the mother of his children, and get on with his life, and let Terry's family care for her. It should be no skin off his nose. He sounds like a ghoul.
32 posted on 11/07/2003 5:15:57 AM PST by baseballmom
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To: The Other Harry
Dean is that [he] takes clear positions.

Oh, so its okay for him to clear-cut his property then prohibit all other property owners from doing the same?

Okay to take property w/o compensation because he panders to the bicycle enthusiasts?

Dean is a very dangerous "progressive". Ted-Kennedyesque. "Do as I say, and the laws say, but the laws don't apply to me or mine."
(Especially my jd offspring).

33 posted on 11/07/2003 5:21:53 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: The Other Harry
Continuing to keep her alive with respirators and the like does no one any favors.

Uh, Harry, exactly how uninformed are you on Terri's condition? There are NO respirators. There are NO machines used to keep her alive. The artificial means you are talking about are food and water - just that and nothing more. There are even doctors that say she could have fed herself if she was given the proper therapy over the years. Judge Greer is finally making Schiavo answer for that.

Is this your premise: "Well, Mommy can't feed herself anymore due to her crippling arthritis, pull the plug?" Because Terri's case is a lot closer to that scenario than someone hooked up to a bunch of machines.

34 posted on 11/07/2003 5:23:21 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: kattracks
When was the last time Dean treated a patient in a clinical setting?
35 posted on 11/07/2003 5:23:32 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: kattracks
Dean is such a supporter of assisted suicide that he's proving it by committing political suicide every time that he speaks. I only wish that he'd shut up until after he gets the nomination.
36 posted on 11/07/2003 5:30:56 AM PST by birdsman (bs)
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To: Johassen
I didn't think much of Dean before, but now I hate the guy.

From the beginning, this guy has been a mixture of the ambitions of Nepoleon with all the 'humility' of Mussolini.

38 posted on 11/07/2003 5:59:20 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: The Other Harry; sweetliberty
Continuing to keep her alive with respirators and the like does no one any favors.

Incredible. According to Robert Drobot, there has been over 418 threads and thousands of posts on Terri Schiavo. And this Other Harry still doesn't have a clue.

39 posted on 11/07/2003 6:24:44 AM PST by Ladysmith (Low-carbing works!! (223.0 (-37.6)))
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To: RandallFlagg
Judging by the posts of those who want to kill Terri and those who hate Judge Roy Moore, and those who are in favor of killing unborn and partially born babies ,he will have the votes of about a third of the individuals that are on this forum.
40 posted on 11/07/2003 6:38:15 AM PST by sport
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To: grania
Why is it that you never see the individuals that advocate that it is,"A duty to Die" or it is, "Your Right to Die", never leading by example?

Or phrased another way, Why is it that they only want you to die and never them?

Could someone please answer those questions?
41 posted on 11/07/2003 6:42:47 AM PST by sport
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To: RandallFlagg
Oh, yeah! This is really gonna get him a lot of fans!

Particularly in nursing homes and advanced age care facilities... It ought to make a dandy topic of conversation in the dining hall facilities....


42 posted on 11/07/2003 7:06:35 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: sport
Why is it that you never see the individuals that advocate that it is,"A duty to Die" or it is, "Your Right to Die", never leading by example?

Or phrased another way, Why is it that they only want you to die and never them?

Could someone please answer those questions.

Don't be silly. They're not really like that, and they do have your best interests in mind, after all.

Now get back in line or I'll have to use the cattle prod again.


43 posted on 11/07/2003 7:11:50 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: archy
I understand.

Silly me for doubting.
44 posted on 11/07/2003 7:15:27 AM PST by sport
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To: Ladysmith
And this Other Harry still doesn't have a clue.

I have a clue about this subject. You may not.

45 posted on 11/07/2003 7:38:27 AM PST by The Other Harry
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To: tbpiper
Right you are about Dean's character and personna.

I hope he can keep his campaign together through the primaries. Even if he doesn't win the nomination, every day he makes comments sends some moderates into the Republican camp.

46 posted on 11/07/2003 7:45:13 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Ladysmith
I kept my father alive for years. You really need to know what that is like. It didn't help him.
47 posted on 11/07/2003 7:52:29 AM PST by The Other Harry
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To: NonValueAdded; The Other Harry
Is this your premise: "Well, Mommy can't feed herself anymore due to her crippling arthritis, pull the plug?" Because Terri's case is a lot closer to that scenario than someone hooked up to a bunch of machines.

I really don't see how you can logically compare the Terri Schiavo situation to someone with crippling athritis. While both patients require someone else to care for them, only one is aware of their surroundings and has the ability to understand and communicate.

48 posted on 11/07/2003 8:09:58 AM PST by mac_truck
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To: Ladysmith
This pisses me off more than any other subject I have ever encountered.

It is more than what I have said so far. That is just a dribble.

The hospital room and the resperator rightfully belong to someone who might live. Giving them to someone who can't live is morally wrong. It takes them away from those who can.

If we had unlimited resources, this would not be true. But as things stand, it is true.

And sometimes, it is just better to let someone go.

49 posted on 11/07/2003 8:14:51 AM PST by The Other Harry
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To: The Other Harry
The culture of death has become so ingrained in our society and moral relativism so strong, that many do not see the line that divides "letting her go to God" and "sending her to God".

It's the same moral relativism that allows one to be so flippant in deeming food and water as being part of "respirators and the like". That makes it easier doesn't it? Referring to food and water as "the like". That's what PC and moral relativism is designed to do. It allows us to accept the unacceptable.

Killing a disabled person through starvation, against their will? No, we'll call it removing artificial life support and letting them go to God; their right-to-die.
50 posted on 11/07/2003 8:19:58 AM PST by kenth (All I wanted was a Pepsi...)
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