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SCOTT IN SICK LACI LIE TO LOVER
NY Post.com ^ | Nov 7, 2003 | HOWARD BREUER

Posted on 11/07/2003 5:39:51 AM PST by runningbear

SCOTT IN SICK LACI LIE TO LOVER


SCOTT PETERSON Prophetic death fib.

SCOTT IN SICK LACI LIE TO LOVER

By HOWARD BREUER
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November 7, 2003 -- MODESTO, Calif. - Scott Peterson lied to mistress Amber Frey, telling her his wife was dead - a prophetic fib told on the very same day he purchased a boat possibly used in Laci Peterson's murder, a cop testified yesterday.

Detective Al Brocchini also suggested that the fertilizer salesman knew his pregnant wife was dead a day after she was reported missing. Brocchini said Peterson asked him on Christmas Day 2002 whether cops had used cadaver dogs to find her.

Brocchini's testimony came on the seventh day of a preliminary hearing to determine if there's enough evidence to try Scott Peterson, 31, for the murder of wife Laci and their unborn son, Connor.

Peterson told Frey on Dec. 9 that "he had lost his wife and this would be his first holiday without his wife," said Brocchini.

Laci disappeared on Christmas Eve, while Scott Peterson claims he was on a solo fishing trip in San Francisco Bay. Remains of the missing woman and her unborn son washed ashore near San Francisco in April, and cops arrested Scott Peterson days later.

Brocchini said Peterson made himself a suspect almost immediately by acting suspiciously.

Police found a loaded handgun in Peterson's car as they combed through the couple's house on Christmas Eve, when Laci was first reported missing.

The detective offered no suggestion that the gun - with no round in the chamber and a magazine loaded with live ammo - had recently been used by Peterson.

But Brocchini recalled how a nervous Scott Peterson called him at 2 a.m. Christmas morning, demanding the gun back.

"He said he wished I'd told him I kept the gun for evidence," Brocchini testified. "I responded it was illegal to have a loaded gun in his glove box and I was going to put it into evidence."

Peterson then asked "if they had used cadaver dogs to search for Laci," the investigator recalled.

"I said, 'No, I hadn't considered her dead yet.' I was kind of surprised he asked that."

Cadaver dogs later tracked Laci's scent from Modesto to the bay, according to court documents.

The preliminary hearing, before Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami, is scheduled to resume on Wednesday. .............

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Detective: Peterson said Laci was dead

Posted on Fri, Nov. 07, 2003

Detective: Peterson said Laci was dead

By Brian Anderson
CONTRA COSTA TIMES

MODESTO - Two weeks before his wife disappeared, Scott Peterson told his mistress he was a widower about to spend his first Christmas alone, an investigator testified Thursday.

That was Dec. 9, the same day Peterson purchased the boat he told police he used while fishing San Francisco Bay the day his wife disappeared, said Detective Al Brocchini.

Taking the witness stand on day six of Peterson's preliminary hearing, the Modesto officer said he interviewed Amber Frey after she called a tip line Dec. 30, telling him she had been romantically involved with Scott Peterson.

Frey told him Peterson had told her he was single -- a lie, she later learned. She said she confronted him Dec. 9, and he told her his wife was dead, the detective said.

A Stanislaus County judge is hearing evidence to determine whether there is enough proof to continue holding Peterson on two murder counts.

Peterson has denied killing his pregnant wife.

Laci Peterson vanished Dec. 24 and later turned up dead on the shores of San Francisco Bay not far from where Peterson said he was fishing.

Peterson was arrested April 18 in San Diego, driving a 1984 Mercedes Benz that Brocchini said Peterson told him he bought with $3,600 in cash days earlier while using his mother's name.

With dyed hair and sporting a goatee, Peterson told the seller that his parents named him Jacquelyn Peterson in a "Boy Named Sue" thing, referring to the Johnny Cash song about a boy given a girl's name, Brocchini said.

Offering up detailed description of the early search for the pregnant Modesto woman, Brocchini told a packed courtroom that Scott Peterson's behavior was, in some instances, surprising.

Peterson said in early questioning that on Christmas Eve he had gone fishing in his new boat. He had planned to golf, but the chilly December temperatures changed his mind, Brocchini said he was told.

Peterson returned home about 4:30 p.m. His wife was nowhere to be found.

Brocchini arrived about 9:30 p.m. at the Peterson house after police were called. He searched the house and then Peterson's truck, he said, finding a .22-caliber handgun in the glove compartment.

Brocchini stuffed the gun in his pocket and later booked it as evidence.

Brocchini asked Peterson to submit to a gunshot residue test, to which he agreed. Peterson said he had last fired a gun a month earlier while hunting, but questioned whether exhaust from the boat's motor would show up on the test, the detective testified, adding that it would not.

The results of the test were not announced in court.

Officials have not said whether Laci Peterson died from a gunshot wound, but have indicated in court papers that she was killed inside her house.........

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Laci Peterson's husband talked about life as a widower, detective says

Laci Peterson's husband talked about life as a widower, detective says

Bill Melley, Associated Press

Published November 7, 2003 LACI08

MODESTO, Calif. -- The same day he bought a fishing boat that would provide his alibi when his pregnant wife vanished two weeks later, Scott Peterson told his mistress he was a widower planning his first Christmas alone, a police officer testified.

Detective Allen Brocchini, who launched the Christmas Eve investigation into Laci Peterson's disappearance, said Scott Peterson bought the boat Dec. 9 - the same day Fresno massage therapist Amber Frey later told the officer that she confronted Peterson about being married.

While Brocchini did not link the two events that happened that day, he provided the pieces of the puzzle prosecutors are assembling to show Peterson was plotting the demise of his wife weeks before he returned from his Dec. 24 fishing excursion and reported her gone.

Brocchini's testimony Thursday in the preliminary hearing revealed the details he gathered from the day Peterson claimed he was motoring his 14-foot skiff on San Francisco Bay to his arrest nearly four months later in San Diego.

Peterson was arrested driving a Mercedes convertible be bought for $3,600 cash, using his mother's name, ``Jacqueline Peterson.''

When asked about the peculiar name, he told the seller it was the name his parents gave him, Brocchini said.

In the first hours of the investigation, Peterson denied he was having an affair, Brocchini said. Peterson never told him about Frey.

On Dec. 30, Frey placed one of the hundreds of calls Modesto police received each day. Brocchini was watching a clerk type notes from the caller and decided to pick up the phone and handle the call himself.

The detective then drove 90 miles to Fresno to interview Frey, a single mother.

Frey said she met Peterson on Nov. 20 and he said he was single. But she later became suspicious and confronted him about three weeks later because she thought he was married.

``He said he lost his wife, this would be the first holiday he was without his wife,'' Frey told Brocchini.

Peterson called Frey on Christmas and the following three days, Brocchini said. At some point, he told her he was out of the country and would be able to spend more time with her after Jan. 25.

Frey began taping their phone conversations for police, and investigators tapped Peterson's phones for evidence.

Frey may testify later in the hearing that will determine whether the 31-year-old former fertilizer salesman is tried on charges of murdering his 27-year-old wife and unborn son. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

The hearing will resume Wednesday.............

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Detective testifies to finding gun in Scott Peterson's truck

BRIAN MELLEY, Associated Press Writer Thursday, November 6, 2003

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(11-06) 11:45 PST MODESTO, Calif. (AP) --

A Modesto Police detective who spent last Christmas Eve launching an investigation into Laci Peterson's disappearance testified Thursday that officers found a .22-caliber semiautomatic handgun in Scott Peterson's pickup truck.

It was the first hint that Peterson, accused of killing his pregnant wife and unborn son, owned a weapon. But Modesto police detective Al Brocchini made no connection between the weapon and the death of pregnant substitute teacher Laci Peterson. Brocchini testified for 90 minutes Thursday on the sixth day of a hearing to determine if Peterson will stand trial for murder.

Brocchini, under questioning from Stanislaus County prosecutor Rick Distaso, also explained that as the Christmas Eve investigation began, Peterson denied having an extramarital affair and worried about his boss learning that he stored his boat in a company warehouse.

Before Brocchini's testimony, Peterson defense lawyer Mark Geragos told Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami that he recently discovered that the FBI conducted closed-circuit television surveillance of Peterson's home after his wife disappeared.

Geragos said he will subpoena the FBI for copies of the tape and seek a motion to dismiss charges against Peterson.

The 31-year-old former fertilizer salesman faces two counts of murder for the death of his wife and unborn son. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

Brocchini said he arrived at the Peterson house on Covena Avenue about 9:30 p.m. Dec. 24, about four hours after Laci Peterson's stepfather Ron Grantski reported her missing to police.

The detective described Scott Peterson as cooperative, saying the fertilizer salesman never told him to leave or get out of his house.

Brocchini also recounted writing down all the phone numbers in Peterson's cellular phone log and taking pictures of Peterson's boat stored at a warehouse. He said the boat contained two fishing poles, a lifejacket, a homemade boat anchor consisting of cement poured into a bucket and yellow-handled pliers.

Much of the Peterson's preliminary hearing has focused on a single piece of human hair wrapped in the pliers, which prosecutors maintain was a hair from Laci Peterson.

Brocchini also described Peterson's remarks about a bucket and mop that have dominated testimony in recent days. He said Peterson told officers that his wife asked him to bring the mop bucket into the house before he left on a fishing trip to Berkeley Marina on the morning of Christmas Eve. He said Peterson said his wife was mopping floors when.........

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Peterson allegedly said wife died

Peterson allegedly said wife died

Detective says husband made claim before woman was killed

MODESTO, Calif., Nov. 6 — Two weeks before his wife was murdered, Scott Peterson told his mistress that his wife was already dead and that he was about to spend his first Christmas without her, the lead detective in the case testified Thursday.

Scott Peterson, asked whether police ‘had used cadaver dogs to search for Laci. I said, “No, I hadn’t considered her dead yet.” I was kind of surprised he asked that.’

— AL BROCCHINI Modesto police detective PETERSON TOLD the woman, Amber Frey, that “he had lost his wife and this would be his first holiday without his wife,” Modesto police Detective Al Brocchini said during the seventh day of a preliminary hearing on charges that Peterson murdered his pregnant wife, Laci, and their unborn son.

The detective said he later learned that Scott Peterson called Frey daily starting Christmas Day, the day after Laci Peterson disappeared.

Frey “heard from him on the 25th, the 26th, the 27th and the 28th, and he said he was out of the country and would be able to be with her more around January 25,” Brocchini said.

Frey, who is expected to testify next week, taped many of the conversations, Brocchini said. It was a day of revealing testimony in a hearing dragged out by delays and painstakingly detailed DNA testimony. Brocchini also testified that when he searched Peterson’s pickup truck for clues late Christmas Eve, he founded a loaded gun in the glove compartment.

The detective offered no suggestion that the gun, a Llama .22 caliber semiautomatic handgun with no round in the chamber and a magazine loaded with live ammunition, had recently been used.

But Brocchini said Peterson called him on his cell phone at 2 a.m. Christmas Day wanting the gun back. “He said he wished I’d told him I kept the gun for evidence,” Brocchini said. “I responded it was illegal to have a loaded gun in his glove box and I was going to put it into evidence.”

Scott Peterson, 31, then asked Brocchini “if they had used cadaver dogs to search for Laci,” Brocchini added. “I said, ‘No, I hadn’t considered her dead yet.’ I was kind of surprised he asked that.”

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From the Sheriff's Press Release:"NOTICE - READ THIS!

Posted on Thursday, November 6 2003 at 5:50 PM PST ----

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Something of the past criminal elements not yet heard, IMO, :"Kidnapper is denied parole

Kidnapper is denied parole

One of the three men who kidnapped and buried a bus load of Chowchilla-area school children 27 years ago was denied parole for the 14th time Wednesday.

James Schoenfeld; his brother, Richard Allen Schoenfeld; and Frederick Newhall Woods were sentenced to life in prison for the crime. The men are serving their sentences at the California Men's Colony in San Luis Obispo County.

James Schoenfeld won't be eligible for parole again for two years, said Bill Sessa, a spokesman for the Board of Prison Terms.

A parole hearing for Woods was postponed Wednesday because his attorney was unavailable, Sessa said. No new hearing date has been set.

1 posted on 11/07/2003 5:39:52 AM PST by runningbear
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To: Rheo; Mystery Y; Searching4Justice; brneyedgirl; Scupoli; sissyjane; TexKat; Lanza; Mrs.Liberty; ...
Pinging......
2 posted on 11/07/2003 5:40:49 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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Pinging......
3 posted on 11/07/2003 5:41:24 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Constitution Day
TGIF ping!
4 posted on 11/07/2003 5:42:20 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (SSDD - Same S#it Different Democrat)
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To: All
No court hearings until Wednesday next week... SF Chronicle: <"Testimony is scheduled to resume Wednesday morning, taking a break through the Veterans Day holiday on Tuesday.">

5 posted on 11/07/2003 5:57:29 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Is Peterson guilty?

This is a gut feeling, but I think so.

Mostly because the reports of her death were quickly followed up by the police searching for a water burial in the bay where Peterson reportedly went fishing.

Of all the places for a "random murderer" to have placed her, lo and behold, she floats out of the bay half a year later.

Whatever else you might think, it took someone with a boat AND an interest to get her out that far and that deep into the water.

Peterson's guilty.

Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like the prosecutor has a lot of evidence to prove their case. I'm beginning to think he'll end up being declared "not guilty." That's a far cry from being found innocent.
6 posted on 11/07/2003 6:01:27 AM PST by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: runningbear
Can't thank you enough for keeping everything so organized and up to date!

7 posted on 11/07/2003 6:09:50 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Tijeras_Slim

8 posted on 11/07/2003 6:15:33 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Velveeta
sometimes, I rush....lol... But as I read, as I html them, wow, with the latest testimonies!!! The .22 hand gun for sure and mum on testings from scaughty and powder residuals... stuff is soooo adding up as per the evidence side, and Geragos has a long road to sweep or try to sweep it off the courts!.

And the surveillance tapes, or ??? per the FBI?? wonder what they have, interesting from the get-go....

<<<<but we freepers pretty much knew then too... ;o)<<<<<

9 posted on 11/07/2003 6:23:36 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: xzins
I think the DA has much evidence. Just depends on if or how presented into evidence in court to be used to reach the jurors in deciding his guilt or innocent in the deaths of Laci and Conner, and Geragos to be very compentent to get scaughty off the 2 counts of murder charges.
10 posted on 11/07/2003 6:26:16 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Hi runningbear!!

I can't believe they are turning a one-day holiday into a five-day break! At this rate, it'll be the anniversary of Laci's death b/f they even finish the preliminary hearing! Oh, well.

Did you see the part about the cement anchor? It had a bar embedded in it, sort of a hook so he could attach a rope? Yet the detective said that in the boat, the only rope was the fairly short tie-up rope, for tying the boat to a dock (or to a buoy...) So how would Scott have used his ONE cement anchor w/o a rope for it?
11 posted on 11/07/2003 7:30:03 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: runningbear
If Laci's keys were in the closet like I heard then she wasn't walking the dog unless she went out without locking her door.

BTW, thank you for adding me to your ping list.
12 posted on 11/07/2003 7:32:02 AM PST by gopheraj
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To: runningbear
And the surveillance tapes, or ??? per the FBI?? wonder what they have, interesting from the get-go...

Yeah, why the FBI at all? The local PD could have installed that CCTV just as easy.

13 posted on 11/07/2003 7:36:37 AM PST by alexandria
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To: runningbear
Mornin' rb. Thanks again for putting all these news stories in one place.

Had to make a trip downtown yesterday. Didn't appear to be as many TV trucks parked in the make-shift parking lot across the street from the courthouse like there was in days past.

Noticed that MPD has a command center positioned on I Street and Stanislaus County Sheriff has one on 11th Street.

On the corner of 11th and I, there is a City of Modesto piece of equipment positioned with a tower camera aimed down 11th street towards the entrance to the courthouse.

The media have all their tents set up along 11th Street. Almost looks like a Farmer's Market setting. :)

Enjoy the weekend. I'll be enjoying some of the Veteran's Day activities in the area.

Salute to my fellow veteran brothers and sisters.
14 posted on 11/07/2003 7:52:37 AM PST by Diver Dave
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To: runningbear
Thanks for all the pings, rb. You are providing a wonderful service and I appreciate your doing so.
15 posted on 11/07/2003 7:53:07 AM PST by An American In Dairyland
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To: Devil_Anse
So how would Scott have used his ONE cement anchor w/o a rope for it?

Good catch!

16 posted on 11/07/2003 8:16:46 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Devil_Anse
Interesting. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
17 posted on 11/07/2003 8:31:45 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Diver Dave
you have a great weekend to DD...

heard from the reporter on KCBS yesterday, the announcer wanted to know Scott's demeanor as questions were asked for the Det. on subjects like Amber, and affairs, et el... they wanted to know if Scott made facial expressions. The reporter, I think Bob Melrose, stated he didn't know because the court room seats were all filled up with media, and the overflow was held over into a separate room area, with audio only... ;o(....

Your welcome too....and all..

18 posted on 11/07/2003 8:35:56 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: An American In Dairyland
your welcome.... keepin in the know I gather... ;o)
19 posted on 11/07/2003 8:36:29 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: alexandria
guess in a few days, we'll find some info..

Sure Geragos will spill something from his big mouth... lol...

20 posted on 11/07/2003 8:37:07 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
Thanks.It has been proven that Scott is a narcissistic lying,cheat ,who continued to chase his latest right after Laci disappeared.He is in love with himself,his appetites,be it the Country Club or other women.Can't wait to see if the case is provable as far as murder.
21 posted on 11/07/2003 9:39:13 AM PST by MEG33
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To: runningbear; Devil_Anse; Jackie-O; MaggieMay; maggiefluffs; RGSpincich; editer; Sandylapper; ...
I'm so curious about this exchange! Distaso is questioning Brocchini on direct. In section "813", question #2 and answer #3. Can anyone venture to guess what it is that Brocchini feels he can't say?


18 A. I asked him if I could check his hands for gunshot
19 residue.
20 Q. And what did he say?
21 A. He said I could.
22 Q. What -- did he say anything about that?
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. What did he say?
25 A. Well, when he saw me remove the kit, he said -- he
26 wanted to know if the exhaust from the outboard motor could
27 register positive as gunshot residue.
28 Q. And what did you tell him?

813
1 A. No.
2 Q. What's the next thing he told you?
3 A. He -- he told me something. I don't know if I can
4 say it or not. But --
5 Q. Okay. Well, let -- let me ask you this question,
6 then.
7 Did he tell you what his plans were going to be on
8 Christmas Day?
9 A. Yeah.
10 Q. All right. What was that?
11 A. He was going to meet family and friends about
12 8:00 o'clock to continue the canvass.
22 posted on 11/07/2003 9:42:59 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: gopheraj
Not to worry! According to the testimony, Scott reported that when he came home, one entrance to the house (I think it was the French doors in the back) was unlocked.

The theory of many of us is that Scott simply put McKenzie's leash on and let the dog run off, knowing the dog would eventually return home or be seen, with the leash, as though Laci had been scooped up by someone while walking the dog.

As we all know now, sure enough, a neighbor did find the dog wandering with his leash, and the neighbor dutifully returned McKenzie to the Petersons' yard.

I have to wonder what Scott thought when he came home and found the dog he'd turned loose back in the yard with the gate closed. I imagine he had a momentary flash of bafflement. Or even, perhaps, chills.
23 posted on 11/07/2003 9:45:20 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Sacajaweau
UR welcome! I think the only reason the cops know that there are more anchors unaccounted for is b/c they found the impressions of the anchors somewhere at the warehouse. I don't think Scott eagerly told them about all the anchors he made, b/c I don't think he can account for all the anchors' whereabouts.
24 posted on 11/07/2003 9:47:49 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: runningbear
Just heard a report on MSNBC

Scooty claims he told LEO about Amber.
Leo says no Amber told LEO about Amber.

.22 Loaded gun found in truck. (report did not elaborate)
What does a gun have to do with anything?

Scooty told Amber he would be with her more after Jan. 22(?) or somewhere around that date.
Pre Meditation point? Hmmm

Scooty called Amber daily after Laci dissapeared.
Not very distressed my wife is missing act on his part.
Told Amber this was his first Christmas alone since wifes death.

Hey Scooty! Is Johnny Cochran and his Dream Team available? No make that Johnny Cochran and his Miracle Team.

'Cause you are gonna need one to pull this off.

25 posted on 11/07/2003 9:57:28 AM PST by oceanperch (Respite care, it is a good thing.)
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To: Diver Dave
The media have all their tents set up along 11th Street. Almost looks like a Farmer's Market.. -------------------------------------

It is...a fish market. Bottom feeders, crabs and ink squid.
26 posted on 11/07/2003 10:06:35 AM PST by oceanperch (Respite care, it is a good thing.)
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To: Devil_Anse
So how would Scott have used his ONE cement anchor w/o a rope for it?

Great catch.

Do you think that the reason her head did not come up was that he had tied a rope around her neck and attached it to the anchor? After time, the torso just became separated and floated up? Maybe another one was around her feet. It makes perfect sense when you think of which parts did not come up. Sorry for this graphic post.

27 posted on 11/07/2003 10:07:17 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: runningbear
Runningbear, you are awesome. Thanks.

Peterson said he had last fired a gun a month earlier while hunting, but questioned whether exhaust from the boat's motor would show up on the test, the detective testified, adding that it would not.

If you were an innocent man, who was worried sick about his missing pregnant wife, you would say one of two things. A) "Sure, sure, anything you want; take a vial of my blood, take my left arm, ANYTHING, just FIND MY WIFE!!!" or B) Everything under A plus "I was at the shooting range today and I bet I have residue but you can call and ask so and so and everyone who saw me there but FIND MY WIFE!"

A hunting question: Do you hunt with the kind of gun he had? I do not know. What animals do you hunt for with a semi-automatic handgun? Don't tell me sturgeon. LOL.

29 posted on 11/07/2003 10:13:36 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Velveeta
Wow Scoot asked if his boat motor could be mistaken for gun powder residue?

I am not in the know but that was a stupid thing to ask.

A. It appears he did fire up the boat motor.

B. It kinda says oops I did fire my gun I wonder if I can cover it up by blaming the carbon exhaust of my boat motor.

Well that sums it up for me. Narcissistic, Anti-social murderers come in "dumb mode" too.

Not the brightest crayon in the box is he?
30 posted on 11/07/2003 10:17:27 AM PST by oceanperch (Respite care, it is a good thing.)
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To: Devil_Anse
Momentary Bafflement.

LMAO. A Stoner moment in memory.
31 posted on 11/07/2003 10:22:09 AM PST by oceanperch (Respite care, it is a good thing.)
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To: Yaelle
Yeah that sturgeon that got away...he had to shoot it to get in his small water craft. It was soooo big and wiggly.

Bullet bait.
32 posted on 11/07/2003 10:27:52 AM PST by oceanperch (Respite care, it is a good thing.)
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To: editer
Thanks ed. I read it as something more sinister. That Brocchini was "legally" not able to say something. I took Distaso's next question as if Distaso perhaps changed the subject.

I envisioned the reply in reference to the gun....that perhaps Scootchie might have said "can I have the gun back so I can blow my brains out" Would that be admissable? Hmmm, maybe just wishful thiking on my part.
33 posted on 11/07/2003 10:29:58 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Velveeta
Yes--that is very intriguing, isn't it? I was burning with curiosity when I saw that. But then I forgot all about it! Thanks for reminding us!

I don't know much, but here's all I could come up with: they said that Scott's having that gun in his glove compartment w/o a permit was a violation of CA law. (Brocchini said that, and even Janie Weintraub, the "defendant's friend", admitted it.)

Maybe Scott said something incriminating--incriminating as to his crime of having the pistol under those circumstances, that is.

Now, during a trial, gratuitous remarks about a defendant's other crimes, OTHER THAN THE CRIMES FOR WHICH HE IS CURRENTLY BEING TRIED, can cause a mistrial. I've actually seen that happen.

But this was not a trial, true. BUT I just think Brocchini has been trained somewhat about testifying in criminal trials. That is, I think he's been schooled by prosecutors about that. So perhaps his instincts regarding not mentioning other offenses not on trial--perhaps his instincts about that welled up and told him to be cautious b/f he spoke, even though it was only a preliminary. Just my uneducated guess.
34 posted on 11/07/2003 10:30:01 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Yaelle
Yes, I think the scenario you are laying out there agrees with all that we've heard from the various experts. You've got a good point about how extremities, as well as the head--stuff that sticks out!--are the missing parts.

I have read that Laci had that tattoo on the outer part of her left ankle. And her body had one lower leg missing, didn't it? To this day, I don't think they've ever told us if the leg/ankle missing was the one with the tattoo.
35 posted on 11/07/2003 10:34:17 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: oceanperch
Not the brightest crayon in the box is he?

Fortunately for LE, he's not. I pictured this detective Brocchini like Columbo, playacting like he was "forgetting" his keys and his notebook. Alas, I think Brocchini was just plain forgetful.

36 posted on 11/07/2003 10:34:55 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Devil_Anse
That is and excellent observation about the rope! How would one use an anchor without any great length of rope?? Those anchors weren't made to anchor that 14' tin can of a boat out in a deep bay.....
38 posted on 11/07/2003 10:37:16 AM PST by Jackie-O
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To: Yaelle; oceanperch
Yeah, isn't that bit about worrying about boat motor exhaust--isn't that just the most OJ-esque thing you've ever heard? JUST like OJ pumping his ex-cop friend for info on how lie detectors work, then telling the friend, in essence, that if he took a lie detector test it might falsely read as "guilty" because OJ said he'd had "dreams" of killing Nicole.

Furthermore, the friend, when he testified, said he'd heard people on the hot seat equivocate in exactly that same way about lie detector "false" results--and those people had turned out to be guilty.
39 posted on 11/07/2003 10:38:45 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
Fascinating. I can see how prosecution would want LE not to mention gratuitously anything not attached to the crimes he is on the line for, then. Makes sense.
40 posted on 11/07/2003 10:39:39 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Devil_Anse
That's the way I read it, Dev. That Scott said something else about the gun. It did seem like Brocchini knew enough NOT to say something. I also noticed that the defense did not question Brocchini about this either, which tells me thaat the defense was A OK about this not being answered. This is making me crazy!
41 posted on 11/07/2003 10:40:52 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Devil_Anse
I remember that we had worked out that the left ankle with the tattoo was gone.
42 posted on 11/07/2003 10:42:14 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: editer
It is curious though, isn't it? The way Distaso quickly changed subjects from the gun to what Scott's plans were going to be for the next day.
43 posted on 11/07/2003 10:43:29 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Yaelle
I really have never heard of any animal that you go hunting for with a semi-automatic handgun, lol! But I dunno, some of those sturgeon are pretty muscular! Or, as Oceanperch said, "big and wiggly"!!
44 posted on 11/07/2003 10:43:49 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
Oh, absolutely. Scott's response was CLEARLY because he had shot the gun. If he knew he had no residue, he would not have said it. I betcha they got some from him.

Without the head, though, they will never know cause of death. However, there is so much circumstantial evidence here. Once the jury sees the two stories; the one that Scott says happened and the one the evidence points to, he will be convicted. That's what I think from this perspective. I am surprised that some of us here think he will be acquitted. The O.J. jury will NOT be a part of this.

We need to have women and family men on that jury. We need to minimize sleazy cheats and single guys, because their own personal guilt will have them saying "So he cheats! That doesn't make him a murderer!" A couple of pregnant women would be GREAT, though they could NOT sit through that testimony and the profuse vomiting and crying would get them excused. But they'd hang him quick.

45 posted on 11/07/2003 10:44:57 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Jackie-O
But 6 feet of rope could certainly anchor him to the buoy! Brocchini said the red rope and yellow gloves were wet.
46 posted on 11/07/2003 10:45:01 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Devil_Anse
See, if you shoot them, you aim for the head so as not to disturb all the caviar! But sometimes they get away. Only one bullet was missing. Why don't we send Geragos out in a little boat into the bay to look for the one sturgeon out there with a bullet hole in it???
47 posted on 11/07/2003 10:46:38 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Velveeta
Ah yes, the painted buoy. I wish Scott's punishment would be to be strung up with homemade anchors and ceremoniously dropped into the bay.

"So you wanna go FISHING, Scotty?" Here's your baby boy's BASSINET, you sick creep! Here's where you LAID YOUR BRIDE TO REST after pulling off her JEWELRY!"

Maybe they could pull off HIS jewels first too!!!

I am eliminating myself from the jury pool, aren't I?

48 posted on 11/07/2003 10:49:46 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: runningbear
Again I say HE'S GONNA CONVICT HIMSELF WITH HIS OWN MOUTH!!And thanks rb for the faithful pings!
49 posted on 11/07/2003 10:50:16 AM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: Yaelle
If he knew he had no residue, he would not have said it.

There sure were plenty of reasons in the first few hours for LE to suspect him.

I found it also curious that Brocchini didn't know whether the residue tests ever came back and what the results might have been. My first initial reaction was....maybe they have her head! Otherwise, I don't know why there wouldn't be a need for Brocchini to know the results.

50 posted on 11/07/2003 10:53:35 AM PST by Velveeta
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