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Hatch Warning: Sen. Rockefeller Risks 'Serious Criticism' for Memogate
NewsMax.com ^ | Friday Nov. 7, 2003 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 11/07/2003 11:29:18 AM PST by jmstein7

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Ut., said Thursday that Sen. Zell Miller, D-Ga, was right to charge this week that a memo outlining plans by Senate Intelligence Committee Democrats to politicize Iraq war intelligence borders on "treason."

But the Utah Republican defended the committee's ranking Democrat, Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-WV, saying he shouldn't have to resign as the committee's vice chairman even if he's found have authorized staffers to prepare the bombshell document.

Asked about Sen. Miller's comment on Wednesday that the memo was "treason's first cousin" and that "heads should roll" over the episode, Sen. Hatch told radio host Sean Hannity, "I happen to love Zell Miller and I do agree with that because bad intelligence results in the deaths of Democrats and Republicans - in other words, our people."

But Hatch refused to call for disciplinary action against ranking Democrat Rockefeller, recommending instead that Republicans "publicly ask the Democrats how they reconcile [preparing such a memo] with the critical need for non-partisanship."

When Hannity said that his sources had identified Rockefeller as being responsible for the memo, Sen. Hatch turned defensive.

Noting that the West Virginia Democrat "has worked pretty well with [Committee Chairman] Pat Roberts," the Utah Republican said, "I really doubt that Sen. Rockefeller would have anything to do with trying to make [the Committee's investigation] that partisan."

Asked what would happen if it turned out that Rockefeller was implicated in the memo scandal, Hatch replied, "Well, it's a serious issue. I mean, it would be, you know - he would be seriously criticized if that were the case."

"I like Sen. Rockefeller very much but, I mean, that wouldn't be right," he added.

Despite the national security breach, Hatch said it would be unwise for the White House to stop cooperating with committee Democrats, saying he feared that the press wouldn't permit it.

"The can't [stop cooperating] because the major media in this country . . . is always on [the Democrats'] side and they don't ever get called to account," he complained. "If [Republicans] did something like that it would be front page headlines all over the country. You know that."


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KEYWORDS: 2004memo; extended; jayrockefeller; memogate; orrinhatch
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1 posted on 11/07/2003 11:29:18 AM PST by jmstein7
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To: jmstein7
Hatch is pretty close to being 100% right on this.

Although he should be a lot tougher on Rockefeller.
2 posted on 11/07/2003 11:31:14 AM PST by nuffsenuff
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To: jmstein7
The good old Senate believes in taking care of each other.
The Republicans will can one of their own and support the enemy. This should also be counted as Political Treason.
I just think the Republicans are cowards.
3 posted on 11/07/2003 11:32:15 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: jmstein7; Judith Anne; mewzilla; carton253
FGS. No guts, no glory. Shame on Orrin Hatch, and the other GOP toads. Do they not read their e-mail? Do they not receive their messages?
4 posted on 11/07/2003 11:32:29 AM PST by onyx
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To: jmstein7
Paging Orrin Hatches's spine!

Orrin Hatches's spine, please return to Orrin's body as soon as possible!
5 posted on 11/07/2003 11:33:00 AM PST by Redcat
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To: nuffsenuff
Sen. Hatch is funny as he sets up Sen. Rockefeller, nobly defending him until the hammer falls. They all know he is guilty as sin. Perhaps the price will be some judges. I'd rather see him exposed for treason or sedition.
6 posted on 11/07/2003 11:33:29 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: jmstein7; Sabertooth
Oh my! (Shock and awe in voive....)

(Clasps chest in stunned dismay....)

"Serious disapproval" is such a strong punishment. Shirley he doesn't deserve taht, does he?

/sarcasm
7 posted on 11/07/2003 11:33:33 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: jmstein7
Orrin Hatch is a wimp.
8 posted on 11/07/2003 11:35:04 AM PST by PhilipFreneau
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE




Hatch is a metrosexual.


9 posted on 11/07/2003 11:36:14 AM PST by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: nuffsenuff
Hatch is pretty close to being 100% right on this.

Although he should be a lot tougher on Rockefeller.

Other than the gunshot wound to the head your husband is fine, Mrs. Lincoln.

10 posted on 11/07/2003 11:36:16 AM PST by Taliesan
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To: jmstein7
"I happen to love Zell Miller"

"I like Sen. Rockefeller very much but, I mean, that wouldn't be right,"

No, it wouldn't be right. I say make up your mind and commit to the one who really has your heart Senator. You can't keep such sweet and innocent fellow Senators on tenterhooks now can you? Just do the right thing.
11 posted on 11/07/2003 11:36:36 AM PST by Lee Heggy (Make God laugh...tell him your plans.)
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To: jmstein7
Sounds like the Republicans are going to be breaking out the "comfy chair and soft cushions" pretty soon...
12 posted on 11/07/2003 11:37:33 AM PST by danneskjold
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To: PhilipFreneau
Nothing will come of this. Nothing.

Think of it. The memo is "near treason" and the penalty for that, in the US Senate, is to be "criticized".

Senators are useless.

13 posted on 11/07/2003 11:37:58 AM PST by Taliesan
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To: jmstein7
What a wimp. I wonder if he apologizes to his wife for getting out of bed in the morning. As they say, "Never count your Hatch before he chickens."
14 posted on 11/07/2003 11:38:05 AM PST by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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To: nuffsenuff
Hatch is DEAD WRONG. I'm sure "serious criticism" is all Rockefeller expects from gutless Republicans. Screw Democrats or Republicans, we're talking about the lives of our men and women, sons and daughters. These treasonous acts must not be taken lightly!!
15 posted on 11/07/2003 11:38:05 AM PST by caisson71
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To: onyx
I haven'nt received one word of reply from either of my senators. I didn't think it before, but I guess Sen Hatch is a great big wuss.
16 posted on 11/07/2003 11:38:09 AM PST by BSunday (Big Brother is NOT your Friend...Neither is Big SISTER)
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To: jmstein7
But the Utah Republican defended the committee's ranking Democrat, Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-WV, saying he shouldn't have to resign as the committee's vice chairman even if he's found have authorized staffers to prepare the bombshell document.

Asked about Sen. Miller's comment on Wednesday that the memo was "treason's first cousin" and that "heads should roll" over the episode, Sen. Hatch told radio host Sean Hannity, "I happen to love Zell Miller and I do agree with that because bad intelligence results in the deaths of Democrats and Republicans - in other words, our people."

But Hatch refused to call for disciplinary action against ranking Democrat Rockefeller...

I think the reason Zell never became a Republican is because they are so wishy washy when it come to standing up and doing what is right, if it means getting tough with a democrat.

17 posted on 11/07/2003 11:38:23 AM PST by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: jmstein7
That'll be the day when the Senate Republicans actually get pissed and do something about ANYTHING!
18 posted on 11/07/2003 11:38:46 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: nuffsenuff
Although he should be a lot tougher on Rockefeller

Gee....you think so? Hatch is a total buttboy to Rockefeller, Leahy, and every other RAT in the senate. Is there one Republican in the senate who has even a trace of courage and is willing to do battle with the RATs? Orrin wouldn't want to offend anybody, dontcha know....might not get invited to the best cocktail parties.

19 posted on 11/07/2003 11:38:48 AM PST by clintonh8r (This isn't rocket surgery, people.)
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To: danneskjold
I just sent a note to Hatch telling him he needs to get a backbone and hold these treasonous Dems accountable. You too can give him some encouragement through his website. We need to NOT let this fade away!
20 posted on 11/07/2003 11:40:09 AM PST by Laserman
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To: jmstein7
Sen. Rockefeller Risks 'Serious Criticism' for Memogate

Oh no! Not serious criticism! That's only one step short of the ultimate weapon: the "sternly worded official note".

21 posted on 11/07/2003 11:40:13 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: All
Hatch doesn't want to accuse Rockefeller directly which leaves us with the smell of "crusty" in the bckground, the all-knowing, all-controlling, all-wielding, power hungry monster. Would she sacrifice Rockefeller. You bet!!
22 posted on 11/07/2003 11:41:17 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: jmstein7
Orin Hatch needs to be introduced to something called "The Killer Instinct".
23 posted on 11/07/2003 11:41:22 AM PST by Bryan24
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To: Lee Heggy
The major media in this country . . . is always on [the Democrats'] side and they don't ever get called to account. If [Republicans] did something like that it would be front page headlines all over the country. You know that. - Senator Orrin Hatch

How true that is. That's the one thing about this affair that has my blood boiling the most.

24 posted on 11/07/2003 11:41:53 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy (son of a ...)
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To: af_vet_1981
Sen Hatch is funny as he sets up Sen Rockefeller...

You must be kidding. This will all be forgotten by Monday. By then Orrin will be sucking up to Leahy again, abdicating his "leadership" of the judiciary comittee.

25 posted on 11/07/2003 11:42:33 AM PST by clintonh8r (This isn't rocket surgery, people.)
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To: jmstein7
Hatch Warning: Sen. Rockefeller Risks 'Serious Criticism' for Memogate

My gosh, the Republicans are getting tough now. Serious Criticism! Wow, that ought to find Rockefeller shaking.

26 posted on 11/07/2003 11:43:26 AM PST by BJungNan
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To: jmstein7
ROTFLMAO! Hatch is f'in moron and a spineless turd. Why do the people of Utah keep electing him to the Senate? Oh, right, the same reason the people of Massachusetts keep electing Ted Kennedy...and the people of Pennsylvania keep electing Arlen Specter...and the people of West Virginia keep electing Robert Byrd. Should I keep going? /rhetorical
27 posted on 11/07/2003 11:43:53 AM PST by MrConfettiMan (George Clooney is the male Julia Roberts.)
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To: NutCrackerBoy
Agreed.
28 posted on 11/07/2003 11:44:09 AM PST by Lee Heggy (Make God laugh...tell him your plans.)
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To: jmstein7
Asked what would happen if it turned out that Rockefeller was implicated in the memo scandal, Hatch replied, "Well, it's a serious issue. I mean, it would be, you know - he would be seriously criticized if that were the case."

Ooooohhhhh, Orrin, you're such a studly guy - fighting the good fight to the bitter end.

So, how's that "limited government" thingie you Republicrats promised coming along? You know, all the freedom that'd be restored once Republicrats were in charge of, say, the White House, Senate and House?

How's all that doing, Orrin?

We're waiting . . . . . . .

29 posted on 11/07/2003 11:45:02 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: NutCrackerBoy
It is true that there is media bias. But it isn't just that. Democrats get their stories covered by howling like screaming banshees. They demand their stories be covered, and take steps (like walking out) to ensure that their stories get covered.

Republicans, I am ashamed to admit, whine and take it.

30 posted on 11/07/2003 11:45:04 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: Bryan24
I have to wonder what the heck the dems have on Hatch that makes him so afraid to be critical. Pictures perhaps? Is he a little too friendly with neighborhood children? Something is wrong with this guy and I'm beginning to think it may have something to do with those FBI files.
31 posted on 11/07/2003 11:45:05 AM PST by kedd
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To: BJungNan
rockefellers scared,real scared,not.
32 posted on 11/07/2003 11:45:19 AM PST by linn37 (Have you hugged your Phlebotomist today?)
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To: BSunday
Me neither. Not a word. Pitiful and disgusting.

I am left to only hope that they're doing further investigation --- setting the ducks all in a row --- before they "level" the democrats. I'm a dreamer.
33 posted on 11/07/2003 11:46:13 AM PST by onyx
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To: onyx
Steyn has the explanation for Hatch here although in his case the cause was Sen. Kennedy rather than Sen. Clinton.
34 posted on 11/07/2003 11:47:21 AM PST by JohnBovenmyer (I)
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To: kedd
I have to wonder what the heck the dems have on Hatch...?

FBI FILES

35 posted on 11/07/2003 11:47:43 AM PST by BJungNan
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To: jmstein7
"Hatch Warning: Sen. Rockefeller Risks 'Serious Criticism' for Memogate ^

Oh yeah, that'll leave a mark. I bet old Jay is just shaking in his boots.

36 posted on 11/07/2003 11:47:52 AM PST by mass55th
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To: MrConfettiMan
"Why do the people of Utah keep electing him to the Senate?"

There's something about how he looks so...um...stuffed in a high collared shirt with that angry sparrow glint in his eye..it's simply irresistable to folks in Utah. As for the others well, maybe the respective gene pools of their electorates should be looked into.
37 posted on 11/07/2003 11:48:48 AM PST by Lee Heggy (Make God laugh...tell him your plans.)
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To: clintonh8r
No it will not be forgotten. The question is how to treat the crime. If it were a straightforward crime, they could refer it to the AJ. It was political strategy on the part of the Democrat opposition, who would seat Saddam Hussein in their caucus if it would unseat President Bush in 2004. The Republican party, whose base is not primarily comprised of traitors like the Democrat base, must actually govern the country according to law and defend the Republic from all enemies, foreign and domestic. It's quite a challenge.
38 posted on 11/07/2003 11:50:41 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: mass55th
I'm so frustrated I just want to give Hatch an atomic wedgie.
39 posted on 11/07/2003 11:51:43 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: JohnBovenmyer
Thank you for the link.

Orrin is devoid of a killer instinct. No wonder nice guy finish last.
40 posted on 11/07/2003 11:53:10 AM PST by onyx
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To: jmstein7
Don't count your Hatch before he chickens!

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Ut., said Thursday that Sen. Zell Miller, D-Ga, was right to charge this week that a memo outlining plans by Senate Intelligence Committee Democrats to politicize Iraq war intelligence borders on "treason."

But the Utah Republican defended the committee's ranking Democrat, Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-WV, saying he shouldn't have to resign as the committee's vice chairman even if he's found have authorized staffers to prepare the bombshell document.

Asked about Sen. Miller's comment on Wednesday that the memo was "treason's first cousin" and that "heads should roll" over the episode, Sen. Hatch told radio host Sean Hannity, "I happen to love Zell Miller and I do agree with that because bad intelligence results in the deaths of Democrats and Republicans - in other words, our people."

But Hatch refused to call for disciplinary action against ranking Democrat Rockefeller, recommending instead that Republicans "publicly ask the Democrats how they reconcile [preparing such a memo] with the critical need for non-partisanship."

When Hannity said that his sources had identified Rockefeller as being responsible for the memo, Sen. Hatch turned defensive.

Noting that the West Virginia Democrat "has worked pretty well with [Committee Chairman] Pat Roberts," the Utah Republican said, "I really doubt that Sen. Rockefeller would have anything to do with trying to make [the Committee's investigation] that partisan."

Asked what would happen if it turned out that Rockefeller was implicated in the memo scandal, Hatch replied, "Well, it's a serious issue. I mean, it would be, you know - he would be seriously criticized if that were the case."

"I like Sen. Rockefeller very much but, I mean, that wouldn't be right," he added.

Despite the national security breach, Hatch said it would be unwise for the White House to stop cooperating with committee Democrats, saying he feared that the press wouldn't permit it.

"The can't [stop cooperating] because the major media in this country . . . is always on [the Democrats'] side and they don't ever get called to account," he complained. "If [Republicans] did something like that it would be front page headlines all over the country. You know that."

I don't think I can contain my loathing for this perfumed Prince - Senator Hatch.

Please explain to me how we can be attacked, be at war and our 'leaders' still try and pretend that while our Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines are in harms way life in the US Senate should remain as it always has been.

I say give Hatch a rifle and make him walk down Baghdad streets for a couple of months. I'll gladly go with him. Then we will see how he feels about treasonous acts by Senators in the country he is defending.

TS

41 posted on 11/07/2003 11:53:21 AM PST by The Shrew (Radio Free Republic - The New NPR!)
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To: jmstein7
Orrin Hatch is so bloody worthless. They've got Ted Kennedy and nine other bozos screaming that Bush is a liar and all Hatch can come up with is "serious criticism."

GAWD...THE GOP IS SO LAME!

Hatch appears to be the ultimate good ole' boy. Won't ever say anything harsh about a fellow SENATOR!

Can you just imagine what this would be like if it were the GOP with the memo? They would be all over the airwaves calling for an independent investigation and for Roberts resignation. Hatch is totally spineless. No wonder I don't give any money to the NRSCC.

42 posted on 11/07/2003 11:53:48 AM PST by Wphile (Keep the UN out of Iraq)
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To: jmstein7
TURN ON C-SPAN2!!!!!!
43 posted on 11/07/2003 11:54:41 AM PST by OXENinFLA ( Attempt to evaluate curvature at parametric singularity.)
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To: kedd
Furthermore, the purpose of this or any investigation has got to be for two purposes. Either it is to unmask corruption or to learn from mistakes and legislatively change rules. The Democrats are not charging corruption and have proven it is not to correct mistakes. We are then left with an investigation that has a negative cost/benefit return. It should be deep sixed!
44 posted on 11/07/2003 11:54:55 AM PST by shamusotoole
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To: Saundra Duffy
That'll be the day when the Senate Republicans actually get pissed and do something about ANYTHING!

Great line, SD. I'd take great comfort in seeing the senate chambers become a site for a good, old fashioned, wild west, bar room brawl. I think it would be rather cathartic.

45 posted on 11/07/2003 11:55:37 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: af_vet_1981; All
I'm NOT forgetting! I hope you and all have called and emailed news outlets and senators!

This WILL NOT go away!


46 posted on 11/07/2003 11:55:48 AM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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To: jmstein7
Oh no! Not "Serious Criticism"! What's next, prolonged finger wagging?

Democrats must be laughing their a** off.....
47 posted on 11/07/2003 11:57:05 AM PST by PogySailor
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To: OXENinFLA
KIT BOND RAISING HELL ON CSPAN II!
48 posted on 11/07/2003 11:57:47 AM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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To: Judith Anne
Yeah, Frist just tore into it too.
49 posted on 11/07/2003 11:58:47 AM PST by OXENinFLA ( Attempt to evaluate curvature at parametric singularity.)
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To: jmstein7
Hatch continues to disappoint me. During Clinton's impeachment, Hatch continually tried to only have him censured. Rockefeller should be hung from a lamp post for treason if he's behind this subversion. And Hatch proposes "serious criticism"...
50 posted on 11/07/2003 11:59:25 AM PST by Spiff (Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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