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Hatch Warning: Sen. Rockefeller Risks 'Serious Criticism' for Memogate
NewsMax.com ^ | Friday Nov. 7, 2003 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 11/07/2003 11:29:18 AM PST by jmstein7

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To: OXENinFLA
Is this the "Live Thread" we have or is there another?
51 posted on 11/07/2003 11:59:35 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: The Shrew
Hey! Orrin said Rockefeller might be seriously criticized! What more do you want? Sheesh!</extremely extreme sarcasm
52 posted on 11/07/2003 12:00:18 PM PST by clintonh8r (This isn't rocket surgery, people.)
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To: OXENinFLA
Saxby Chambliss raising hell over MEMOGATE RIGHT NOW! CSpan II!
53 posted on 11/07/2003 12:00:24 PM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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To: jmstein7

Asked what would happen if it turned out that Rockefeller was implicated in the memo scandal, Hatch replied, "Well, it's a serious issue. I mean, it would be, you know - he would be seriously criticized if that were the case."


54 posted on 11/07/2003 12:00:24 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: PogySailor
Oh Orrin, you dropped this


55 posted on 11/07/2003 12:00:36 PM PST by bmwcyle (Hillary's election to President will start a civil war)
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To: MrConfettiMan
"Hatch is f'in moron and a spineless turd."

Well, not having a spine does make it easier for one to bend over and grab one's ankles, which is the Senate Republican standard pose.

56 posted on 11/07/2003 12:01:28 PM PST by Freemyland
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To: caisson71
I just called Hatch's office to express my disdain for Hatch and his cowardness. I mentioned Hitlary and the ignorant young man that I spoke to actually said "Maam we really need to stop blaming Hitlary for everything" at that point I lost my cool. I am so upset with the mindset of these cowardly republicans. Hitlary has them all by the short hairs. Sorry for my bluntness, but I am 64 y.o. woman and I'm too old and too tired to play games with these fools.
57 posted on 11/07/2003 12:02:57 PM PST by Patriotic Bostonian
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To: Freemyland
Watch CSPAN II RIGHT NOW!!!

MEMOGATE is NOT going away!

Says no more bipartisan spirit.

Senator Roberts on NOW.
58 posted on 11/07/2003 12:03:23 PM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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To: Judith Anne
Wouldst thou care to further elaborate for those of us whom the afternoon finds TeleVisically challenged?
59 posted on 11/07/2003 12:04:06 PM PST by N. Theknow (Be a glowworm, a glowworm's never glum, cuz how can you be grumpy when the sun shines out your bum.)
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To: Judith Anne
Oooooooooooooo He sounds MAD!
60 posted on 11/07/2003 12:05:34 PM PST by OXENinFLA ( Attempt to evaluate curvature at parametric singularity.)
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To: bmwcyle
I don't believe he ever had one.

My prediction: By next week this issue will be dead. In fact on the Sunday talking head shows (except for Fox) the DEMOCRATS will be on the attack and Republicans reduced to sputtering fools.

Please GOP, prove me wrong.
61 posted on 11/07/2003 12:05:34 PM PST by PogySailor
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To: N. Theknow
I'll post the senate record of this when it becomes available.
62 posted on 11/07/2003 12:06:31 PM PST by OXENinFLA ( Attempt to evaluate curvature at parametric singularity.)
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To: William McKinley
Republicans, I am ashamed to admit, whine and take it.

I know it is cliche around here to evoke "the changed tone", usually with the rolling of the eyes. But maybe the Pubbies tone-changing "strategy" will ultimately bear fruit.

The general public hates bitter screaming partisanship. They think it is a waste of time, and does not get the business of the country done. In a way, the general public probably misunderestimates the value of hardball partisan strife. But Democrats have certainly been caught looking like hot-heads more often than Pubbies and that trend continues.

63 posted on 11/07/2003 12:07:51 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy (son of a ...)
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To: jmstein7
Hatch Warning: Sen. Rockefeller Risks 'Serious Criticism' for Memogate

"Serious Criticism" my a**. Rockefeller like other old money communists like Kennedy etc. have such a powerful hold on power in Washington that nothing short of a nuclear blast will loosen their grip. Does anyone really expect a reprimand of Rockerfeller after the display of a** kissing of Teddy Kennedy for the last couple of months by the current administration. The Republicans have no desire to hold Rockefeller or anyone else accountable. Their goal is to "build bridges" and "just get along". The Senate is a club like any other where you do not turn on your fellow member. The Senate is the showplace of America's Trailer Trash Aristocracy.

64 posted on 11/07/2003 12:08:09 PM PST by varon
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To: BJungNan
My gosh, the Republicans are getting tough now. Serious Criticism! Wow, that ought to find Rockefeller shaking

Ooooh yea, watch out Jay, if this mean spirited attack continues to grow, who knows, you may even be (gasp)...censured.

65 posted on 11/07/2003 12:08:12 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: NutCrackerBoy
Kyl's up now.
66 posted on 11/07/2003 12:08:39 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: N. Theknow
"A direct assault on the heart of the committee--"

"This will not go away. We are at a crossroads. Until and unless this attack plan is addressed, business cannot be conducted as usual in this committee."

(paraphrased)

Quoted Zell Miller about "perhaps treasonous"

Says Dems have openly embraced this memo. Says that won't wash. Democrat reaction is destructive.

Dems should carefully reflect what they want to do...

Says Dems must clearly repudiate the strategy of the memo.

or else the Dems will destroy the effectiveness of the committee when the country needs it most.

Now Jon Kyl Arizona is on.

67 posted on 11/07/2003 12:08:51 PM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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To: EGPWS
Kyl up now!
68 posted on 11/07/2003 12:09:16 PM PST by OXENinFLA ( Attempt to evaluate curvature at parametric singularity.)
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To: Judith Anne
I about lost it when he siad "or whatever word you want to use"
69 posted on 11/07/2003 12:10:01 PM PST by OXENinFLA ( Attempt to evaluate curvature at parametric singularity.)
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To: clintonh8r
Anybody know what Rick Santorum's take is on this?

FMCDH

70 posted on 11/07/2003 12:10:56 PM PST by nothingnew (The pendulum is swinging and the Rats are in the pit!)
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To: Judith Anne
*kneels*

*bows head*

Thank you My Liege.

71 posted on 11/07/2003 12:11:43 PM PST by N. Theknow (Be a glowworm, a glowworm's never glum, cuz how can you be grumpy when the sun shines out your bum.)
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To: All
Says committee works in a vault to make sure it's secure. Says committe should be OUT OF BOUNDS FOR POLITICS!

Says there is a point beyond which you cannot go--when the other side, dems, take advantage.

Says Dems must disavow the memo and apologize.

Says too many hours have passed since first calls for disavowal.
72 posted on 11/07/2003 12:12:23 PM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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Sounds like they're saying they've had enough of the 'rat's Barbra Streisand.

(I apologise for ruining everyone's lunch)

73 posted on 11/07/2003 12:12:31 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: N. Theknow
Hannity just opened his show by saying he was going to blast the Senate GOP, and then said there have been significant developments the past 2 hours... Does anyone know what he's referring to? Is it Kyl's speech?
74 posted on 11/07/2003 12:13:25 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: Judith Anne
Thanks. As soon as I posted, I saw the updates about what was being shown on C-SPAN, and I am encouraged.
75 posted on 11/07/2003 12:13:48 PM PST by Freemyland
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To: OXENinFLA
Got it!

Thanks!

76 posted on 11/07/2003 12:13:56 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: All
Kyl: Must be NO suggestion of influence by committee members STAFFS! Staffs must be ABOVE REPROACH!

Oh, this is great!
77 posted on 11/07/2003 12:14:13 PM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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To: EGPWS
Hannity is on this too.

My mind is about to implode!
78 posted on 11/07/2003 12:14:34 PM PST by OXENinFLA ( Attempt to evaluate curvature at parametric singularity.)
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To: jmstein7
There is no way Senator Rockafeelie should stay on the Senate Intelligence committee. Bush needs to demand his removal. You can't have a treasonous bastard on the committee that has access to vital security information. If the White House speaks up against Rockafeelie the media will be forced to cover this story.
79 posted on 11/07/2003 12:15:27 PM PST by Always Right
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To: All
Kyl: Says no foreign country or intelligence community will EVER share information knowing it could go to political staffers and senators uses. Says it will make committee useless.

80 posted on 11/07/2003 12:15:52 PM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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To: Judith Anne
My fear is that they will use the staffer as a scape goat, sweep the real culprits under the rug, and resume business as usual.!!
81 posted on 11/07/2003 12:16:17 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: Bryan24
We ought mail him a jar of testosterone...
82 posted on 11/07/2003 12:16:27 PM PST by mo
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To: Judith Anne
I'm listening to Kyl now and all he is doing is confirming that they are all a bunch of cowards. They just don't get it and until they do we are all in danger. I think I'll go visit my youngest grandson because he will help me to calm down. Thanks Judith Anne for your great work on this thread.
83 posted on 11/07/2003 12:16:54 PM PST by Patriotic Bostonian
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To: Judith Anne
I hope they don't wait until MON. to put the Congressional Record up.
84 posted on 11/07/2003 12:16:56 PM PST by OXENinFLA ( Attempt to evaluate curvature at parametric singularity.)
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To: Judith Anne
Wow. I hadn't thought of that.

Thanks for the updates. I am at work and don't have access to TV. Hopefully, there will be a replay later. I may have to pop me some popcorn and enjoy.

85 posted on 11/07/2003 12:17:36 PM PST by Freemyland
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To: NYC Republican
They are finally getting the message. The RNC and NRSC have been getting swamped with calls from pissed off people everywhere. The staffers told me that they have never heard such nasty backlash. Nearly every caller told them to pass on to the Republican leadership to get nasty on this one and put it into perspective. Everybody should keep the heat on and high. We must UTTERLY DESTROY the domestic enemies of our country.
86 posted on 11/07/2003 12:17:48 PM PST by DarthVader (DemoRAT Senators should have done to them what was done to Joe Pesci in Casino)
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Kyl's putting me to sleep. We need to get a really pissed Senator out there on our side.
87 posted on 11/07/2003 12:18:37 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: OXENinFLA
Hannity is on this too.

My mind is about to implode!

Got that too! I hear ya', my selective hearing was just tossed out the window! : o

88 posted on 11/07/2003 12:19:06 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: DarthVader
Thanks, will do.
89 posted on 11/07/2003 12:19:12 PM PST by NYC Republican
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To: Wphile
Hatch is the Claude Raines (Senator) character in "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington".

FMCDH

90 posted on 11/07/2003 12:19:44 PM PST by nothingnew (The pendulum is swinging and the Rats are in the pit!)
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To: Judith Anne; OXENinFLA
I don't mean to be flippant, it's just that the Republicans have been handed so many opportunities to land big fish and they always practice "catch-and-release."
91 posted on 11/07/2003 12:19:48 PM PST by N. Theknow (Be a glowworm, a glowworm's never glum, cuz how can you be grumpy when the sun shines out your bum.)
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To: All
Kyl: Talked about previous chairmen saying that committee cannot function if used for political ends.

Memo suggests that dems plan to castigate the majority and misuse the process of the report, BEFORE EVEN GETTING IT.

Going to show what the memo says, right now.

Says it's a statement of a plan, NOT options.


92 posted on 11/07/2003 12:20:12 PM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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To: jmstein7
Hatch is defending the indefensible? Unbelievable. The whole Senate is out to destroy this nation.
93 posted on 11/07/2003 12:20:31 PM PST by Godfollow
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To: Judith Anne
Thanks for the CSPAN2 heads up! This is good!

BTW, Senator Roberts will be on Fox News Sunday.
94 posted on 11/07/2003 12:21:43 PM PST by EllaMinnow
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To: N. Theknow
watch carefully all ..each senator FOR THE RECORD ON FILE is cutting the dems at the knees,ankles and toes. Roberts said TREASON
95 posted on 11/07/2003 12:22:24 PM PST by cars for sale
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To: All
Kyl: States NO MEMBER can verbally mention ANYTHING.

Talks about independent commission and pulling the trigger.

Reads the last paragraph, says dems have prejudged, and it's their mantra. "Bush must be exposed" even if it means destroying the committee.

Memo MUST be disavowed by Dems.

Now a frikken dem.
96 posted on 11/07/2003 12:23:55 PM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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Reid's up now.
97 posted on 11/07/2003 12:24:09 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("There are worse things than crucifixion...There are teeth.")
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To: Judith Anne
I can't stand Reid!!!

He talks like he's speaking to a 4yr. old
98 posted on 11/07/2003 12:24:48 PM PST by OXENinFLA ( Attempt to evaluate curvature at parametric singularity.)
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To: RandallFlagg
says it was STOLEN AND DEMANDS TO KNOW HOW OBTAINED
wowowowowowow








99 posted on 11/07/2003 12:25:03 PM PST by cars for sale
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To: OXENinFLA
I KNEW IT!!!!!!!


HOW DID THE RIGHT GET THE MEMO?????


I knew this was coming.
100 posted on 11/07/2003 12:25:39 PM PST by OXENinFLA ( Attempt to evaluate curvature at parametric singularity.)
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