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Krugman implies Mississippi elected Republican governor b/c of racism
New York Times ^ | November 7th, 2003 | Paul Krugman

Posted on 11/07/2003 12:43:26 PM PST by Gdzine

So did Mississippi voters support the Republicans, even though they get very little direct benefit from Bush-style tax cuts, because they — unlike New Jersey's voters — understand the magic of supply-side economics? If you believe that, I've got an overpass on the Garden State Parkway you may be interested in buying.

Now maybe New Jersey voted Democratic because of irrational Bush hatred. But I think it's a lot more likely that white Mississippi voters, unlike their counterparts up north, are still responding to Republican flag-waving — and it's not just the American flag that's being waved.

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See people from Mississippi are too stupid to vote Democratic. This is why Mississippi should not be making their own decisions, they need somebody wiser, they need a big brother as you might say, to tell them what is going to benefit them. Now counter what Krugman says here with the interview on the Rush Limbaugh site with Zell Miller.
1 posted on 11/07/2003 12:43:26 PM PST by Gdzine
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To: Gdzine
Herr Krugman is the poster boy of the New National Socialists of American.
2 posted on 11/07/2003 12:47:37 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("If you don't like change, you're going to like irrelevance even less.")
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To: Gdzine
If you want to read, use user name: freeper123 and password freeper123
3 posted on 11/07/2003 12:48:13 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Gdzine
Metro Sexual Howie is on his way to help the rednecks of old Miss!


4 posted on 11/07/2003 12:50:05 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("If you don't like change, you're going to like irrelevance even less.")
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To: Gdzine
Boy, with friends like Krugman, the south does not need enemies. What a biased story. One thing Krugman forgets to mention is that the cost of living is much cheaper in Miss. than NJ. Plus I would guess taxes are much less as well. If this does not show the elite liberals attitude towards this part of the country nothing does. I would like to know what some of you southerners think of this article.
5 posted on 11/07/2003 12:52:49 PM PST by Uncle Hal
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To: Gdzine
It must be the pits being as wrong about everything as Krugman always is.
6 posted on 11/07/2003 12:53:10 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Gdzine
Krugman is the consumate scumbag.
7 posted on 11/07/2003 12:54:20 PM PST by jackbill
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To: Gdzine
WTF!!!!? This guy doesn't know squat about Mississippi.
8 posted on 11/07/2003 12:56:16 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Gdzine
Isn't it nice that this piece of crap published this piece of crap today, with all the good economic news coming out. If this liberal moron could be embarrassed, he would be.
9 posted on 11/07/2003 12:56:36 PM PST by jmaroneps37 ( Please send something to Jindal, we can use another win!)
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To: Gdzine
Yes and the first thing these 'enlightened" voters in New Jersey are going to swallow is a 10 cent per gallon gas tax hike. The socialists won;t even wait until they are sworn in in January. I saw it coming. The Repubs had Trenton for 10 years and did nothing. They are mostly useless RINO's anyway.
10 posted on 11/07/2003 12:56:46 PM PST by Historicus
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To: Uncle Hal
Ole Miss can't be that bad if it can give more to charity per household than New Jersey or for that matter ANY OTHER STATE.
11 posted on 11/07/2003 12:58:00 PM PST by Naspino (I am in no way associated with the views expressed in your posts.)
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To: Gdzine
The Bush administration has the two highest ranking Black members in history, and a**holes like Krugman still try to play the Republicans-are-racists card.
12 posted on 11/07/2003 12:58:18 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Grampa Dave
Howard isn't wearing a very presidential tie.
13 posted on 11/07/2003 12:59:12 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Gdzine
Hey krugman!:

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. May God have mercy on your soul.

FMCDH

14 posted on 11/07/2003 12:59:26 PM PST by nothingnew (The pendulum is swinging and the Rats are in the pit!)
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To: Gdzine
"...white Mississippi voters...and it's not just the American flag that's being waved..."

But the Black voters, who practically vote en masse for the Democratic candidate, would never be accused of Racism.

15 posted on 11/07/2003 1:00:57 PM PST by NicknamedBob (I wouldn't be judgmental, if people weren't so STUPID!)
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To: Gdzine
Now maybe New Jersey voted Democratic...

Didn't they only go +1 in NJ? I hardly call that "voting Democratic"; that's dumb luck. But then, reality never matters too much to Krugman when he's banging out his Bush Hate rants.

16 posted on 11/07/2003 1:01:40 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Grampa Dave
HA HA HA GOOD ONE!!!
17 posted on 11/07/2003 1:02:01 PM PST by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary? Me Neither!)
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To: Steve_Seattle
That is his metro sexual tie.

Call it Howie with a soft e, not Howard, that's too masculine.
18 posted on 11/07/2003 1:02:08 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("If you don't like change, you're going to like irrelevance even less.")
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To: buffyt
Did you read what is on Howie's front door.
19 posted on 11/07/2003 1:02:53 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("If you don't like change, you're going to like irrelevance even less.")
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To: Uncle Hal
I would like to know what some of you southerners think of this article.

Nothing I haven't heard before - there is no greater hatred and contempt around than that of the New York Times toward the South. The very existence of this part of the country is an affront to the Slimes' delicate sensibilities (Really, any part of the country outside of Manhattan, San Francisco, Georgetown and Malibu is offensive to the Slimes, but the South really drives them over the edge). In the Slimes' perfect world, every white southerner would be stripped of his/her citizenship and thrown into the gulag.

20 posted on 11/07/2003 1:02:58 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: Grampa Dave
YES BIG FOOT IN MOUTH! That is just priceless! I just copied it and sent it to some people who will REALLY ENJOY it! He is such a scary dude.
21 posted on 11/07/2003 1:03:59 PM PST by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary? Me Neither!)
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To: martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; Miss Marple; Tamsey; ...

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22 posted on 11/07/2003 1:04:46 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Gdzine
Another liberal whining and making up excuses. Liberals will soon inisist on making voting Republican a hate crime.
23 posted on 11/07/2003 1:05:29 PM PST by Kuksool
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To: CFC__VRWC
and it is hard to understand their deep hatred of the south, since there are so many wonderful things here, like M.D. Anderson Hospital in Houston, one of the best cancer treatment centers in the world. People come here from all over the world for cancer treatment. We have some of the best hospital facilities in the world. We have NASA where everyone is a rocket scientist. We have brilliant minds working at the petro-chemical plants all over the south. etc. etc. etc.
24 posted on 11/07/2003 1:06:44 PM PST by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary? Me Neither!)
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To: Gdzine
Isn't Musgrove WHITE???
25 posted on 11/07/2003 1:07:14 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Dead or alive, I got a .45, and I never miss" - AC/DC)
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To: Gdzine
Krugman's argument--in dialogue form:

Candidate: Vote for me and I will give you five dollars.

Voter: No, I don't think so.

Candidate: Is your opponent offering you money?

Voter: Nope.

Candidate: Then you're irrational not to vote for me. It's against your economic interest.

Voter: I don't trust people who try to buy my vote.

Candidate: Since it's against your economic interest, you must be voting against me because you're a racist. After all, human beings only have two motives: money and racial hatred.

26 posted on 11/07/2003 1:07:45 PM PST by Our man in washington
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To: Uncle Hal
Folks like Krugman never get tired of reminding southerners they lost the civil war. I learned at my daddys knee to ignore their bile. Krugman knows far more about the mideast ( nothing ) than he does the south. Take anything he says about the south with a very large grain of salt and move on. Nothing here but a blathering liberal yankee.
27 posted on 11/07/2003 1:08:45 PM PST by Arkie2
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BTW - I can think of another reason MS went GOP.

Hollywood and Northeast Elitism??

28 posted on 11/07/2003 1:08:56 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Dead or alive, I got a .45, and I never miss" - AC/DC)
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To: Grampa Dave
lol!!!
29 posted on 11/07/2003 1:09:31 PM PST by eyespysomething (As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. (Proverbs 27:17))
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To: Naspino
Not to mention they have the fairest assembly of coeds on campus this side of heaven.
30 posted on 11/07/2003 1:10:42 PM PST by Arkie2
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To: Gdzine
>>>>>>>First, Democrats and moderate Republicans created institutions — above all, Social Security and Medicare — that provided a measure of financial security to ordinary working Americans. The biggest beneficiaries of these institutions were African-Americans and working-class Southern whites, and both were part of the moderate-to-liberal coalition that dominated American politics until the 1960's.

Does this sound almost like Genesis. This guy worships government. To him, it's gone beyond being a lever or a tool. Krugman practises programatic fetishism. He endows Medicare and SS with mythic, religeous potency. He ignores the obvious fact that both are vampiring our national treasury and will turn generations of Americans against one another as they bankrupt America's future.

Krugman makes slightly more sense than the Branch Davidians. Just not much.
31 posted on 11/07/2003 1:11:01 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Mouthing support for the workingman is one of the best ways to avoid actually being one.)
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To: buffyt
Metro Howie is a very scary person.
32 posted on 11/07/2003 1:13:06 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("If you can read this, thank a teacher!....Since it is in English, thank a Veteran!")
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To: Gdzine
Mr. Dean wasn't suggesting that his party adopt the G.O.P. strategy of coded racial signals, and by and large African-Americans — my wife included — understand that. What he meant by his flag remark was that Democrats must make the case to working Americans of all colors that the right's elitist agenda isn't in their interest. And he's right.

Hmmmm, never knew this. Apparently, his wife is black.

33 posted on 11/07/2003 1:14:32 PM PST by Seeking the truth (McDonald Clan - Hired Mercenary - Have Bullhorn - Will Shout for Brew!)
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To: buffyt
there are so many wonderful things here...

Its all offset by the presence of CNN in Atlanta.

34 posted on 11/07/2003 1:15:34 PM PST by Naspino (I am in no way associated with the views expressed in your posts.)
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To: Gdzine
This is all part of the DNC and Dean's Southern strategy.

They are stating that all Southerners are racists.

Now doesn't that just make you want to vote for the dwarves and the rest of the liberal elite?

I have to get a WWBD bumpersticker for my truck.
35 posted on 11/07/2003 1:17:16 PM PST by OpusatFR (The leftwing lies because the truth would kill them all off.)
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To: Gdzine
http://slate.msn.com/id/2090620/\

Krugman Gotcha Contest
Plus more campaign cocooning.
By Mickey Kaus
Updated Wednesday, Nov. 5, 2003, at 1:23 AM PT


I love Whack-A-Pol, especially the little arms when they come out of their holes. But it told me I should be voting for Carol Moseley Braun. ... 12:56 A.M.

Yikes! Now that his political career has crashed, Robert Reich is starting to say interesting things again. (Don't worry, not too interesting.) 11:58 P.M.

It finally looks as if the economy is recovering as opposed to spiraling into a Japan-style pit of deflation and permanent Bush-induced joblessness. That means the long-awaited Krugman Gotcha Contest can begin. A prize, to be announced, for the kf reader who comes up with the gloom-and-doom opinion from the fabled Princeton economist's recent writings that now looks the most embarrassingly wrong. ... You'd assume Donald Luskin would win this contest, but he might be so blindered by Krugmanoia and right-wing economic thinking that he overlooks a juicy nugget. ... It's a big paper trail! Everybody can win! Even Brad DeLong! ... Here's a good place to start. ... Note: No truncated quotes, edited quotes, or out-of-context quotes that don't actually reflect what Krugman is saying. Leave that to him. ... Also: Things that seemed obviously wrong at the time Krugman wrote them don't qualify. The prize is for a statement that now looks highly embarrassing in light of recent economic news. ... Send entries to Mickey_Kaus@msn.com ... (I've made highly embarrassing economic predictions myself. Here's one. But I'm not in the "circle of Those Who Get Money Calls.") ... 3:02 P.M.
36 posted on 11/07/2003 1:24:07 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Gdzine
Thinly-veiled statement that Mississippians are showing they are prone to racism by electing Barbour.

The Democrats have such contempt for Southerners, and for all Americans who demonstrate "Southern" sensibilities! They don't get it that those are AMERICAN sensibilities.
37 posted on 11/07/2003 1:24:11 PM PST by WaterDragon
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To: Naspino
Hey, don't hold THAT slimey place - CNN against us! Yikes~
38 posted on 11/07/2003 1:34:51 PM PST by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary? Me Neither!)
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To: Naspino
The Generosity Index

State Having
Rank
Giving
Rank
Rank
Relation
Generosity
Index
Mississippi 50 6 44 1
Arkansas 47 5 42 2
South Dakota 45 8 37 3
Oklahoma 43 10 33 4
Alabama 41 9 32 5
Tennessee 35 3 32 6
Louisiana 44 12 32 7
Utah 30 2 28 8
South Carolina 39 14 25 9
Idaho 42 20 22 10
North Dakota 46 29 17 11
Wyoming 18 1 17 12
Texas 19 4 15 13
West Virginia 48 33 15 14
Nebraska 34 21 13 15
North Carolina 27 15 12 16
Florida 21 13 8 17
Kansas 26 19 7 18
Missouri 29 23 6 19
Georgia 16 11 5 20
New Mexico 37 32 5 21
Montana 49 45 4 22
Kentucky 40 38 2 23
Alaska 25 27 -2 24
New York 4 7 -3 25
Indiana 28 31 -3 26
Iowa 36 42 -6 27
Ohio 33 43 -10 28
California 6 17 -11 29
Washington 11 22 -11 30
Maine 38 49 -11 31
Maryland 5 18 -13 32
Hawaii 31 44 -13 33
Delaware 14 28 -14 34
Illinois 10 24 -14 35
Pennsylvania 22 36 -14 36
Connecticut 1 16 -15 37
Vermont 32 47 -15 38
Virginia 9 25 -16 39
Oregon 24 41 -17 40
Colorado 7 26 -19 41
Arizona 20 40 -20 42
Michigan 17 37 -20 43
Nevada 13 34 -21 44
Wisconsin 23 46 -23 45
Minnesota 12 39 -27 46
Massachusetts 3 30 -27 47
New Jersey 2 35 -33 48
Rhode Island 15 50 -35 49
New Hampshire 8 48 -40 50

 

As Walter E. Williams pointed out today - you have to get all the way to 21 before you find a "Gore" state. :) Liberals are so compassionate.

39 posted on 11/07/2003 1:56:15 PM PST by Grit (Tolerance for all but the intolerant...and those who tolerate intolerance etc etc)
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To: .cnI redruM
But the right opened an increasingly effective counterattack, with a strategy that included using racially charged symbolism to get Southern whites to vote against their own economic interests.

I believe the above is proof that Krugman is on the DNC fax list. "Southern whites voting against their own economic interest" has become a mantra -- like gravitas.

If I've seen this line once, I've seen it a dozen times in the past week. It's all the rage, it seems, among the mainstream media...

40 posted on 11/07/2003 1:57:31 PM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: Gdzine
New Jersey voted for Democrats (A) because New Jersey is infested with immigrants from New York like Krugman, (B) because the voters of New Jersey can be pretty stupid about (they did, after all, elect the corpse of Frank Lautenberg and don't seem to notice the giant sucking sound that is tax dollars leaving NJ because our representatives have no clout in the Congress), and (C) because there isn't much difference between the Democrats and the RINOs in NJ. On that last point, the Democrats were running ads in rapid rotation about the mess the Republicans left behind after running the show for about a decade and they weren't that wrong. There isn't much difference between our tax-and-spend Democrats and tax-and-spend socially leftist Republicans. When they had the chance to elect a real conservative Republican (Bret Schundler), the NJ Republican party preferred seppuku to backing an outsider that beat the favorite in the primary. A part of me would actually like to see NJ clean house and lose most of the Republicans currently in power so we can start over fresh.
41 posted on 11/07/2003 1:58:01 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: okie01
If I've seen this line once, I've seen it a dozen times in the past week.

The latest front, eh? The Cracker front, I suppose.

42 posted on 11/07/2003 1:59:37 PM PST by dirtboy (Now in theaters - Howard Dean as Buzz Lightweight - taking the Dems to Oblivion and Beyond in 2004!)
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To: Gdzine
The people of Mississippi voted to reject liberal VALUES. They didn't vote their pocketbooks or racism. As usual, liberal elitists like Paul Krugman have it exactly backwards. Any one notice the continuing condescension towards Southerners? That's good cause it means liberals still don't know why they're despised by a good third of the country.
43 posted on 11/07/2003 2:03:14 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Howard isn't wearing a very presidential tie.

Howard's tie lacks gravitas.

44 posted on 11/07/2003 2:03:14 PM PST by kevao (Fuques France!)
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To: Gdzine
So did Mississippi voters support the Republicans, even though they get very little direct benefit from Bush-style tax cuts, because they — unlike New Jersey's voters — understand the magic of supply-side economics?

So in Krugman's little mind, it's always greed; what is the government going to give me, that drives all voting. How progressive, how liberal, how Democrat of him.

One would think that a supposedly trained economist would understand that the government creates no wealth.

If the government gives you $1.00 it first had to confiscate at least $1.50 (overhead in Wash DC is not cheap) from someone else, and we are all better off if we send as little as possible to Washington thereby avoiding the high overhead in DC.

45 posted on 11/07/2003 2:03:16 PM PST by RJL
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To: dirtboy
"The Cracker front, I suppose."

You got it.

Jeez, they got Krugman, too. Whooda thunk...???

Wasn't Krugman actually in attendance at that Democrat Senatorial Policy meeting from whence the Imminence Front was spawned? Along with the oh-so-wronged Joseph C. Wilson IV?

I suppose we can use Krugman's sorry butt as a "leading indicator", can't we?

46 posted on 11/07/2003 2:06:09 PM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: okie01
I suppose we can use Krugman's sorry butt as a "leading indicator", can't we?

A canary in a fart farm?

47 posted on 11/07/2003 2:07:18 PM PST by dirtboy (Now in theaters - Howard Dean as Buzz Lightweight - taking the Dems to Oblivion and Beyond in 2004!)
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To: RJL
Actually, Rush Limbaugh quoted a statistic in one of his books (See, I Told You So, IIRC) that put the government's overhead at 72 cents per every dollar spent being "compassionate." So that owuld work out to $3.57 collected by Washington for every dollar spent "helping the ______ (insert favorite group being starved by Republicans here)".

Rush's books are pretty old (going back to the early days of Toon misrule), but I can't imagine things having improved very much since.

48 posted on 11/07/2003 2:12:43 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: CFC__VRWC
Actually, Rush Limbaugh quoted a statistic in one of his books (See, I Told You So, IIRC) that put the government's overhead at 72 cents per every dollar spent being "compassionate." So that owuld work out to $3.57 collected by Washington for every dollar spent "helping the ______ (insert favorite group being starved by Republicans here)".

Rush's books are pretty old (going back to the early days of Toon misrule), but I can't imagine things having improved very much since.

Thanks, I knew it was higher but didn't have any figures handy.

49 posted on 11/07/2003 2:18:00 PM PST by RJL
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To: Uncle Hal
My family has lived in the South since around 1700. The article makes me laugh.

It's the Democrats who have been race-baiting for decades, and it's starting to backfire.
50 posted on 11/07/2003 2:29:03 PM PST by CobaltBlue
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