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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 8 -10
Various | November 7, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/07/2003 7:54:47 PM PST by sweetliberty

TERRI'S FIGHT
(Thread 6 - November 8-10, 2003)
(Link back to thread 5 - Nov. 5-7)

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Contained in Thread 4:

Link to article on Michael Schiavo from hometown newspaper, information on death by starvation and dehydration, information on hospice eligibility and hospice and medicare/medicaid fraud, e-mail address for Judge Greer, transcript of Larry King Live interview with Michael Schiavo and George Felos, Terri's address at the hospice and the address for the foundation, to send cards for Terri's birthday (December 3), transcript of O'Reilly interview with Kate Adamson, e-mail addresses for Florida legislature, transcript of Abrams Report interview with George Felos and Pam Anderson, transcription of Terri's bone scan, legalese for dummies version of Gov. Bush's motion to dismiss Sciavo's suit against the Constitutionality of Terri's Law, link to FatherOfLiberty's research on HBOT (Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy), links to ACLJ involvement in Schiavo case and Father Rob Johansen's daily update.

There are four other relevant posts that I want to highlight here in case anyone missed them or didn't get pinged. These are a general Terri thread troll alert, an especially thoughtful post about the sincere effort that FReepers are making in Terri's behalf, the Father's Love Letter , and remarks made by Jim Robinson on this issue and reposted here by lonevoice.

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

There was a tremendous amount of information posted on the previous thread. For anyone who hasn't been following the daily threads, links to relevant posts and information from the previous thread are contained in the body of the present one. I have found that very helpful in trying to find something later. You people are doing a spectacular job of getting information out and also in helping to keep all of us updated here. What a great joint effort. This fight, to me, illustrates beautifully what Free Republic is about and what it means to be a FReeper. Way to go FRiends. Keep up the good work!

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Latest threads On Terri's Case

Pro-Life Group Questions 'Quality of Life' Premise in Schiavo Case

Judge Lets Parents Challenge Custody of Terri Schiavo

Dean blasts governor over Schiavo case

Husband Must Defend His Guardianship of Terri Schiavo

Judge Bans Terri Schiavo's Parents From Legal Battle

Dean 'Appalled' That Florida Lawmakers Saved Schiavo

A Woman's Life Versus an Inept Press (Nat Hentoff on Terri Schiavo

Terri Schiavo Case: Gov. Bush Asks To Meet New Guardian

Terri Schiavo Case: Creditable Witnesses & the 1st Guardian

Judge Rejects Bush Effort in Schiavo Case

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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: attorneyfromhell; buttout; daily; euthanasia; florida; forcesofevil; georgefelos; guardianfromhell; hino; merchantsofdeath; michaelschiavo; righttolife; schiavo; schiavothread; schindler; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler
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To: Saundra Duffy
The term "troll" is generally used to refer to someone who is deliberately disruptive. They might be hit and run posters from the DU or other such sites, or they can be just be individuals who, for whatever reason, insist on disrupting threads and may do so in different ways.

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TROLLER

Troller is looking for a response...ANY response, and he will chum the waters with complaints, insults, compliments, and inflammatory tidbits hoping that someone...ANYONE, will take the bait. Generally quite harmless - practices a form of catch and release. Nonetheless, he can upset the delicate ecology of a discussion forum. Once a forum becomes aware of his presence, however, all feeding activity ceases and Troller must move on to more promising waters.

For more on trolls, be sure to catch Admin moderator's profile page


181 posted on 11/08/2003 8:49:40 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Theodore R.
. In Terri's case, the "trolls" sound just like Satan tempting Jesus with all the riches of the world (Schiavo's reward).

Very true.

182 posted on 11/08/2003 8:50:15 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

I put the last name in and got some results. At the bottom it said you could order copies but I didn't see what the cost would be.
The name I put in was Igel, that was the doctors name that MS sued. The other doctor was Prawer but I haven't tried that name yet.
183 posted on 11/08/2003 8:51:15 AM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: pickyourpoison
I, of course, don't know what the cost per page would be either.....plus mailing costs. I am assuming at least $1.00 per page plus postage.....unless there's an additional "fee" involved for their time of photocopying (which should really be covered under the $1.00 per page fee, since it only should cost, at most, 25 cents per page to photocopy).

I think that link could be a jumping off point for more names, too, as far as search results. Let us know if you find out anything further.... : )
184 posted on 11/08/2003 8:53:41 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: floriduh voter

We are killing other people, Hugh Finn or Marjorie Nighbert are two that come to mind.
185 posted on 11/08/2003 8:54:00 AM PST by pickyourpoison
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To: TigersEye
"In the initial adversary proceeding, a board-certified neurologist who had reviewed a CAT scan of Mrs. Schiavo's brain and an EEG testified that most, if not all, of Mrs. Schiavo's cerebral cortex--the portion of her brain that allows for human cognition and memory--is either totally destroyed or damaged beyond repair. Her condition is legally a "terminal condition." 765.101(17), Fla. Stat. (2000). Although it is conceivable that extraordinary treatment might improve some of the motor functions of her brain stem or cerebellum, the Schindlers have presented no medical evidence suggesting that any new treatment could restore to Mrs. Schiavo a level of function within the cerebral cortex that would allow her to understand her perceptions of sight and sound or to communicate or respond cognitively to those perceptions."
186 posted on 11/08/2003 8:55:14 AM PST by daylate-dollarshort
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To: sweetliberty
Amen,.......More Grace and Mercy,.....In Jesus' Precious Name, Amen!!!
187 posted on 11/08/2003 8:56:29 AM PST by maestro
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To: trussell
According to the family's website, that suit was settled for $250,000.
188 posted on 11/08/2003 8:56:53 AM PST by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: daylate-dollarshort; TigersEye
And there are plenty of doctors who have testified in contradiction to the "one" neurologist. Gov. Bush may now have the opportunity to have that doctor's TESTIMONY REFUTED....something MS is afraid of.
189 posted on 11/08/2003 8:58:05 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Saundra Duffy
No, because of Mr. Schindler's health and the stress of this ordeal, the appearance on LKL has been postponed until Friday, Nov. 14.
190 posted on 11/08/2003 8:59:58 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: iowamomforfreedom
It sounds like Michael R. Shiavo is one of those persons who is always supplementing his regular paycheck -- as an emergency room nurse -- with monies from lawsuits. I wonder how many suits he has filed since he married Terri.
191 posted on 11/08/2003 9:01:08 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: nicmarlo
I just got done reading the whole thing and found it very informative ...

Thank you for doing that. My FReep time is about up for today and I have a headache from the dry cold wind last night so I twern't about to wade through it. I'll come back and read it later.

192 posted on 11/08/2003 9:01:43 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope." - Terri Schiavo)
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To: nicmarlo
Well, it does like Pat Anderson has done the best she could. She is articulate and well-informed. It was hardly her fault that the court of George W. Greer slapped her down time after time.
193 posted on 11/08/2003 9:03:16 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: msmagoo
First time I ever heard "nuclear family" defined as: Husband, wife, husband's mistress, and husband's illegitimate children.
194 posted on 11/08/2003 9:04:19 AM PST by Politicalmom
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To: TigersEye
I don't know the motivation, of course, for the poster posting that opinion....but when your headache subsides (hope soon), you should definitely read it.
195 posted on 11/08/2003 9:04:52 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Theodore R.
Greer has his own agenda, and would have dones his best, obviously, to enforce it. However, from what I read in that opinion, there were, IMHO, inexcusable legal errors made by her---and that severely hurt this case.
196 posted on 11/08/2003 9:07:27 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: KosmicKitty
My mother-in-law was accepted under hospice care in her daughter's home (my sister-in-law) on a Friday. She died at Monday noon. This was February 2003.
197 posted on 11/08/2003 9:08:02 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: nicmarlo
Yea, I had read that Pat Anderson made legal errors earlier. It's just a part of the continuing tragedy and disbelief of this whole sordid case.
198 posted on 11/08/2003 9:08:57 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: floriduh voter
TERRI IS NOT TERMINALLY ILL OR HOOKED UP TO MACHINES.

BTW, is there any medical reason, other than convenience terminology, for removing the feeding tube from a patient who cannot (or is not allowed to) take food/water by mouth? To the uninformed, "remove someone's feeding tube" sounds much better than "stop giving someone food and water", don't you think? But if the intention were simply to stop giving food and water, why not leave the tube in place?

199 posted on 11/08/2003 9:09:58 AM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; dandelion; PleaseNoMore; ...
#173

200 posted on 11/08/2003 9:11:14 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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