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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 8 -10
Various | November 7, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/07/2003 7:54:47 PM PST by sweetliberty

TERRI'S FIGHT
(Thread 6 - November 8-10, 2003)
(Link back to thread 5 - Nov. 5-7)

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Contained in Thread 4:

Link to article on Michael Schiavo from hometown newspaper, information on death by starvation and dehydration, information on hospice eligibility and hospice and medicare/medicaid fraud, e-mail address for Judge Greer, transcript of Larry King Live interview with Michael Schiavo and George Felos, Terri's address at the hospice and the address for the foundation, to send cards for Terri's birthday (December 3), transcript of O'Reilly interview with Kate Adamson, e-mail addresses for Florida legislature, transcript of Abrams Report interview with George Felos and Pam Anderson, transcription of Terri's bone scan, legalese for dummies version of Gov. Bush's motion to dismiss Sciavo's suit against the Constitutionality of Terri's Law, link to FatherOfLiberty's research on HBOT (Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy), links to ACLJ involvement in Schiavo case and Father Rob Johansen's daily update.

There are four other relevant posts that I want to highlight here in case anyone missed them or didn't get pinged. These are a general Terri thread troll alert, an especially thoughtful post about the sincere effort that FReepers are making in Terri's behalf, the Father's Love Letter , and remarks made by Jim Robinson on this issue and reposted here by lonevoice.

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Click on pic for Terri's website

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This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

There was a tremendous amount of information posted on the previous thread. For anyone who hasn't been following the daily threads, links to relevant posts and information from the previous thread are contained in the body of the present one. I have found that very helpful in trying to find something later. You people are doing a spectacular job of getting information out and also in helping to keep all of us updated here. What a great joint effort. This fight, to me, illustrates beautifully what Free Republic is about and what it means to be a FReeper. Way to go FRiends. Keep up the good work!

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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: attorneyfromhell; buttout; daily; euthanasia; florida; forcesofevil; georgefelos; guardianfromhell; hino; merchantsofdeath; michaelschiavo; righttolife; schiavo; schiavothread; schindler; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler
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To: Krodg
BING>...we have a winner....

Maxfield testified, adding that hyperbaric oxygen therapy, similar to Hammesfahr's recommendation, could lead to improvement

There are several state of the art hypergaric centers in Florida ,......dealing with divers accidents from Gulf oil rigs,,,.

GET HER IN A PRESSURIZED O2 ATMOSPHERE ASAP....if will work wondes.

351 posted on 11/08/2003 2:03:12 PM PST by spokeshave (Cancel the San Jose Merc and the one way truck to Nevada)
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To: All
Apologies if this has been posted before. Found in a google search for "cerebral cortex ~ Terri Schiavo" ..

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/nation/7098223.htm
352 posted on 11/08/2003 2:03:30 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: sweetliberty
And I honestly do not think that anybody would ever say they'd rather starve to death than be kept alive by having food given to them (except for MS, Felos and other "right-to-deathers").
353 posted on 11/08/2003 2:03:43 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Orlando
This definitely should be further investigated.

There are many things which are totally wrong here. Such as Dr. Wolfson who not only has a conflict of interest but also just gives me the creeps. Gov. Bush should be made aware of these problems. Florida voters would have the best impact on convincing him that Terri and her family are not getting a fair deal.

354 posted on 11/08/2003 2:05:42 PM PST by Dante3
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To: No More Gore Anymore
"they are not dumb so they know what freeps want to hear and how to play us"

While they may not be dumb, their arrogance DOES make them blind, and we are praying for guidance from the One who sees everything and who turns the ways of the wicked against them. I don't doubt that Felos has checked the site out. We messed up his evil design, or at least had a big part in it, but he doesn't intimidate me, nor do the trolls. It is just a matter of keeping everything in perspective.

"By their fruits ye shall know them." (Matt. 7:20)

355 posted on 11/08/2003 2:08:23 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
The fact that nutrition/hydration was not a consideration at the time of Terri's injury is CRUCIAL, sweetliberty. It seems that the Merchants of Death had to spend some time in getting the current laws in place before condemning Terri to death.

Another fine point .. it seems Judge Greer gave the okay for George Felos to act as Terri's attorney, to be paid for by her money .. in essence, she's paying him to kill her. Now that MS has to defend himself as acting in Terri's best interest, and George Felos is still on the scene, is he now Michael's attorney? Can he represent both?

356 posted on 11/08/2003 2:12:04 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: T'wit; sweetliberty
"Several days ago, someone posted the reflections by a Jewish doctor about Terri's case, and how he applied a body of Jewish law called the Halacha to such questions."

Is this it?

http://www.aish.com/societyWork/sciencenature/Should_Terri_Schiavo_Live_or_Die$.asp
357 posted on 11/08/2003 2:13:32 PM PST by iowamomforfreedom (Why is it illegal to starve an animal but not a human being?)
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To: Wampus SC
" I wanted to tell him they were just a wandering band of Dem voters on their way back from the Kentucky elections."

ROTFL!

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"I voted."

358 posted on 11/08/2003 2:16:42 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
Schiavo's wishes recalled in records

In court, family members on both sides recounted what Terri said she wanted.
By WILLIAM R. LEVESQUE, Times Staff Writer
Published November 8, 2003

...Mrs. Schiavo's former friend, Diane Meyer, recalled watching a movie about Quinlan in the summer of 1982 after they graduated high school.

"I remember one of the things she said is, "How did they know she would want this? How did they know she wouldn't want to go on?"' Meyer testified.

Circuit Judge George Greer later ruled that Mrs. Schiavo's feeding tube could be removed.

The judge said he was persuaded by testimony by Michael Schiavo. He said that testimony, combined with statements of other family members, was "clear and convincing evidence."

He discounted things Mrs. Schiavo might have said as a child about Quinlan.

359 posted on 11/08/2003 2:19:20 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Dante3
I agree.

We need to email our FEW friends in the MEDIA and RADIO
to investigate this for us, it's breaking news in this case
in the eyes of many..




360 posted on 11/08/2003 2:20:24 PM PST by Orlando (* Dec. 3rd is Theresa M. SCHINDLER Birthday * Don't call her Schiavo anymore,please.)
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To: Orlando
I agree with your tagline. Terri Schindler. I hate that she has the last name of her murderer.
361 posted on 11/08/2003 2:22:24 PM PST by Lovergirl (Isaiah Chapter 43:3-4 You are precious to me and I love you. www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetliberty
LOL !! I love it
362 posted on 11/08/2003 2:22:51 PM PST by Orlando (* Dec. 3rd is Theresa M. SCHINDLER Birthday * Don't call her Schiavo anymore,please.)
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To: Lovergirl
I am with you 100%, It's long over due, and her real name Thresea
is a beautiful name. It reminds me of Mother Thresea,
who cared all her life for the sick,weak, and disable.

hmm
363 posted on 11/08/2003 2:30:41 PM PST by Orlando (* Dec. 3rd is Theresa M. SCHINDLER Birthday * Don't call her Schiavo anymore,please.)
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To: sweetliberty
Please Act On Behalf Of Terri Schiavo And “Terri’s Law”(Open Letter To The Catholic Bishops)
364 posted on 11/08/2003 2:37:10 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: TigersEye; RJayneJ; JohnHuang2; Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; ..
Congratulations TigerEye on your post of the day! It was well-deserved. The whole post was fantastic, and dead on!

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365 posted on 11/08/2003 2:48:38 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: TigersEye
Great Post!
366 posted on 11/08/2003 2:57:58 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: KosmicKitty
Someone please tell me how to nominate a 'post of the day'.
367 posted on 11/08/2003 2:58:09 PM PST by Krodg
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To: Politicalmom
"First time I ever heard "nuclear family" defined as: Husband, wife, husband's mistress, and husband's illegitimate children."

That's another one of those many words that have been redefined out of English and into liberalese.

368 posted on 11/08/2003 3:01:14 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: nicmarlo
"I don't know the motivation, of course, for the poster posting that opinion"

That one's easy. See @181.

369 posted on 11/08/2003 3:04:30 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
troller - practices a form of catch and release

lol! : )

370 posted on 11/08/2003 3:13:47 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: sweetliberty
Bush facing court test to defend Terri's Law(Article has new info)

Excerpt:

"He's a frightening person, and Jeb Bush is a frightening person for hiring him," said Linda Miklowitz, president of Florida National Organization for Women.

371 posted on 11/08/2003 3:15:37 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Dasaji
Dasaji wrote-
What if Geaorge is paying Michael? Say george is writing a book and he is paying Michael Schiavo as a source. In this way Michael gets the money out of terri's account, over to Felos, adn Felos funnels some back to Michael.
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I have felt this all along - not to mention the fact (and it's been mentioned by others) that the original $700,000 trust fund, invested even very conservatively in 1993, would have yielded additional major gains. Where is THAT money? I thought Trustees have to provide an annual report to the court (public?) each year regarding what goes in and out of the trust. I assume NGFBHINO is the Trustee, as well as Guardian. And there has to be SOME Broker/Dealer (Merrill Lynch, Raymond James, e.g.) managing the funds in the trust.

My reply-
Yeah you mmake a most excellent point. I never thought of that. I bet that money was invested so there should be more than the $700,000.

I was helping SweetLiberty run down a wierd item and visited a web site that had some good information about Terri however the rest of the site was wacko.
I'll post that info in the next post.
372 posted on 11/08/2003 3:19:13 PM PST by Lone Voice in the hinterlands
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To: All
Virtually every one of us has been interested in money being a motive for what is motivating Michael HINO (Husband In Name Only).

I found this on another web site, which I won't reference because the rest of the web site that is Not terri related is wacko. I can't vouch for the information but here it is.

If it doesn't copy and past good I'll have to work on that and re-post the info.


Question 3: Where Did Terri’s Malpractice Award Money Go?

As mentioned, in November1993, Michael Schiavo’s guardianship was challenged for his actions when he instructed Terri’s caretakers not to medicate Terri with antibiotics for a potentially fatal infection. This legal charge culminated with a February 1994 Judge Pennock hearing in which Michael Schiavo was exonerated and his guardianship remained intact. The court permitted Michael Schiavo to withdraw money from Terri’s medical fund to reimburse his legal expenses.

May 1998, Michael Schiavo hires attorney George Felos to petition the court to have Terri’s feeding terminated. Subsequently, the court has permitted Michael Schiavo to withdraw money from Terri’s medical fund to reimburse his legal expenses in his efforts to have Terri die.

Note: In the ensuing (9) years since the 1992 jury malpractice award, Michael Schiavo has used Terri’s medical fund money in his pursuit of Terri’s death and to defend his guardianship role. The bulk of the money has gone for legal fees. Although Terri’s medical fund is sealed; there are court transactions available for public inspection.

Summary of legal expenses through September 2001 Attorneys Fee Amount Fee Period
Attorney Gwyneth Stanley(1)
Attorney Deborah Bushnell(1)
Attorney Steve Nilson(1)
Attorney Pacarek(2)
Attorney Richard Pearse(2)
Attorney George Felos(1)

(1)Michael Schiavo's attorneys
(2)court appointed attorneys
$10,668.05
$49,958.15
$7,404.95
$1,500.00
$4,511.95
$307,188.35 (6/93-3/97)
(9/93-9/01)
(10/93-7/94)
(3/94)
(6/98-12/98)
(3/98-9/01)
Total $381,231.45 (As of Sept. 2001)

Other Expenditures Amount Dates
1st Union/South Trust Bank $55,459.85 (10/94-4/01)
Michael Schiavo (Promissory Note) $3,535.00 (12/94)
Total $58,994.85

Grand Total $440,226.30 (As of Sept. 2001)


Question 4: How Much is Remaining in Terri’s Medical Fund?

The bleeding of money from Terri’s medical fund is far from over. The primary attorneys Michael Schiavo has used in his quest to end Terri’s life, Attorney Deborah Bushnell and Attorney George Felos, have not been compensated for their services since their last invoice – September 2001.

We estimate that Terri's account balance is now less than $300,000. We expect Attorney Deborah Bushnell and Attorney George Felos to invoice over $90,000 to bring their legal fees current. We believe that after legal fees are paid the balance in Terri’s fund, as of February 28, 2002, will be around $200,000.

Also, there is no telling the future amount Attorney George Felos will charge Terri, via Michael Schiavo, for his legal endeavors. On February 22, 2002, in response to the attorney’s February 7, 2002 appeal, the Florida Supreme Court issued a stay to the 2nd District Appellate Court’s order calling for Terri’s neurological examinations. The Florida Supreme Court is presently reviewing their posture regarding Terri’s case.

Should the Florida Supreme Court take jurisdiction, Attorney George Felos will then have the opportunity to totally deplete the entire assets in Terri’s medical fund.

Should the Florida Supreme Court take jurisdiction, Attorney George Felos will then have the opportunity to totally deplete the entire assets in Terri’s medical fund
373 posted on 11/08/2003 3:23:06 PM PST by Lone Voice in the hinterlands
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To: nickcarraway
Hey, if it scares the NOW nags and hags, it's gotta be a good thing, right?
374 posted on 11/08/2003 3:23:06 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Politicalmom
Will you accept a FreepMail from me??...I owe you an apology.
375 posted on 11/08/2003 3:25:57 PM PST by Krodg
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To: T'wit
"Somehow, when he reads their mind and soul, none of them replies, "Up yours, George, I'm alive and want to stay that way."

ROTFL! Good observation. You'd think he'd run across the occasional subject who has at least some resistance to being "helped out" of this world, wouldn't you?

376 posted on 11/08/2003 3:32:00 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: daylate-dollarshort
What do you feel about the order for IMMEDIATE CREMATION of the body and medical records. How you answer this will determine where you fit on my revised scale for my troll alert on you. And be advised that trolls who DON'T answer that question are AUTOMATICALLY given this status:

Type 2 Troll - Revised Coral Snake Scale(Kill and Burner)


377 posted on 11/08/2003 3:32:23 PM PST by Coral Snake (deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
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To: nicmarlo
A total of nine neurologists have also stated that Terri Schiavo is not in PVS. "It is obvious to me that Ms. Schiavo is a viable human being who is at least semi-responsive to her environment," physician Richard Neubauer stated in a May 2001 affidavit.

Does anyone know where to find the article where Greer admitted to not even reading six of the doctors statements??

378 posted on 11/08/2003 3:35:00 PM PST by Krodg
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To: All

Summary of legal expenses through September 2001

Attorney

Fee Amount

Fee Period

(2) =court appointed attorneys

   

(1) = Michael Schiavo's attorneys

   
     

Attorney Gwyneth Stanley(1)

$10,668.05

(6/93-3/97)

Attorney Deborah Bushnell(1)

$49,958.15

(9/93-9/01)

Attorney Steve Nilson(1)

$7,404.95

(10/93-7/94)

Attorney Pacarek(2)

$1,500.00

(3/94)

Attorney Richard Pearse(2)

$4,511.95

(6/98-12/98)

Attorney George Felos(1)

$307,188.35

(3/98-9/01)

     

Total

$381,231.45

(As of Sept. 2001)

     

Other Expenditures

Amount

Dates

1st Union/South Trust Bank

$55,459.85

(10/94-4/01)

Michael Schiavo (Promissory Note)

$3,535.00

(12/94)

Total

$58,994.85

 
     

Grand Total

$440,226.30

(As of Sept. 2001)


379 posted on 11/08/2003 3:39:57 PM PST by Lone Voice in the hinterlands
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To: Krodg
No, and I hadn't heard about that. I would like to read it though, if someone can find it and post it.
380 posted on 11/08/2003 3:47:17 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: lonevoice; nicmarlo
"This article,2nd Schiavo friend speaks, by David Sommer appeared in The Tampa Bay Tribune on May 10, 2001

The article states: "MS has FATHERED TWO (2) Children" We know MS's second child with Jodie Centonze was born on or around Oct 31st, 2003"

Good catch! There has been some discussion on the third (1st?) child, but so far no one has been able to pin it down. Excellent observation! Now what do we do with it?

Nic, any ideas?

381 posted on 11/08/2003 3:54:02 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Coral Snake
It's an atrocity.
382 posted on 11/08/2003 3:55:32 PM PST by Lovergirl (Isaiah Chapter 43:3-4 You are precious to me and I love you. www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetliberty
Well, so far, I've only come across the second child's name and dob (date of birth).....that was in 2002. I didn't post it here and don't remember where I found it at the moment....I'll try to find it.
383 posted on 11/08/2003 3:56:40 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: daylate-dollarshort
You have until this thread goes to 401 and starts a new set of posts to answer the QUESTION about immediate crematiopn of the body and the medical records!!!!
384 posted on 11/08/2003 3:57:16 PM PST by Coral Snake (deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
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To: pc93; sweetliberty; Ethan_Allen
The full article is posted here. Ethan_Allen added a great deal of research into Florida laws based on the article in this post.

The main site http://www.oscnewsgazette.com/ is down right now, so you might find the outside link working later when the site is back up.

385 posted on 11/08/2003 4:00:09 PM PST by msmagoo
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To: Lone Voice in the hinterlands; cyn; floriduh voter; Alamo-Girl
OK.

"Minor" fees to a set of attorneys (with almost 1/3 of the settlement all going to Felos!) ...

But why did MS pay 55,000.00 to a BANK?
386 posted on 11/08/2003 4:00:16 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: sweetliberty
FYI, while looking for girlfriend/baby info, I found this (but you probably already saw this, too, lol):

June 8, 2001 – Michael Schiavo was issued a deposition subpoena. On two separate occasions the subpoena servers could not locate Schiavo. He and his fiancée had vacated their residence, their whereabouts were unknown.

June 14, 2001 – At the 11th hour, Schiavo’s attorney gave notice Schiavo would not be available for his scheduled deposition.

http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:b22vBgixxeYJ:www.terrisfight.org/timeline.htm+Cindy+Shook+Brashers&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
387 posted on 11/08/2003 4:03:25 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Ohioan from Florida
How many times have you ever uttered the words, "That will never happen to me," and then that very thing does?

Most women in 'Domestic Abuse' cases have been there. They believe that if they were the victim they would act differently....then the truth hits home. I've been there....

388 posted on 11/08/2003 4:04:20 PM PST by Krodg
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

"But why did MS pay 55,000.00 to a BANK?"

For the services of a financial planner, I believe. Thus I assume he put some of Terri's money into stocks, mutual funds, investments. (Which is legal BTW)

HOWEVER if he or Jodi "invested" Terri's money in businesses which he or Jodi OWN, that would mean he still has a substantial financial motive in bringing about Terri's demise.

389 posted on 11/08/2003 4:05:38 PM PST by msmagoo
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To: nicmarlo
"At the 11th hour, Schiavo’s attorney gave notice Schiavo would not be available for his scheduled deposition."

Well, isn't that interesting. Wonder if they ever did catch up with him. Did he ever give THAT depostion?

390 posted on 11/08/2003 4:06:21 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Lone Voice in the hinterlands
So, in the 10 years between 6/93 and 6/2001, when the trust fund COULD have almost tripled in value SIMPLY BY BEING INVESTED IN THE STOCK MARKET, MS spent over 400,000.00 on banks and lawyer fees (and all but 24,000.00 since '98!) and NONE on therapy.

OK.

Now, what happened in '98 that caused Felos and Bushnell (same law firm) to earn 400,000.00 in the three years between 1998 and 2001?
391 posted on 11/08/2003 4:06:28 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Dasaji
"What if Geaorge is paying Michael?"

Bingo!

Money, money, money........that is exactly what this is all about.
Kill Terri,collect inheritance, write a book or two, make a movie and TV special.

Follow the money....the root of all evil!

392 posted on 11/08/2003 4:07:27 PM PST by mickie
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To: sweetliberty
I don't know, but I bet not.
393 posted on 11/08/2003 4:07:52 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Orlando
"We need to put this out to the public, and media.. It's important.... "

Not without more facts. Information like this needs to be irrefutable, otherwise it can backfire.

394 posted on 11/08/2003 4:11:31 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
did you see these:
AFFIDAVIT
_________

BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CAROLYN
JOHNSON who being first duly sworn deposes and says:


_________

AFFIDAVIT
_________

STATE OF FLORIDA
COUNTY OF PINELLAS

BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared HEIDI LAW who
being first duly sworn deposes and says:

_________
AFFIDAVIT
_________

STATE OF FLORIDA  )
COUNTY OF PINELLAS  )

BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CARLA
SAUER IYER, R.N., who being first duly sworn, deposes and says:

_________

AFFIDAVIT
_________

BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared ROBERT
SCHINDLER, SR., who being first duly sworn deposes and says:

395 posted on 11/08/2003 4:18:09 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: msmagoo; cyn; floriduh voter
So, we'd should see some indication of "growth" (and not only fees!) ....

Until the stock losses AFTER the period in question, IF (and it's a big if) IF the fund was handled even half-properly, it would now be worth several times what it originally had.

Minus legitimate fees, of course.

So he charged the fund (roughly) 35,000.00 between 93 amd '98, and 380,000.00 between '98 and '01.

396 posted on 11/08/2003 4:19:10 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: nicmarlo
I'll start searching...
397 posted on 11/08/2003 4:19:25 PM PST by Krodg
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To: nicmarlo
Yes, I have seen those. Amazing, isn't it, how the courts have discounted so much that is relevant while accepting so much that is not?
398 posted on 11/08/2003 4:20:18 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
Very!
399 posted on 11/08/2003 4:22:33 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Krodg
I just wouldn't know where to look for that one, Krodg.
400 posted on 11/08/2003 4:22:58 PM PST by nicmarlo
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