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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 8 -10
Various | November 7, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/07/2003 7:54:47 PM PST by sweetliberty

(Thread 6 - November 8-10, 2003)
(Link back to thread 5 - Nov. 5-7)


Contained in Thread 4:

Link to article on Michael Schiavo from hometown newspaper, information on death by starvation and dehydration, information on hospice eligibility and hospice and medicare/medicaid fraud, e-mail address for Judge Greer, transcript of Larry King Live interview with Michael Schiavo and George Felos, Terri's address at the hospice and the address for the foundation, to send cards for Terri's birthday (December 3), transcript of O'Reilly interview with Kate Adamson, e-mail addresses for Florida legislature, transcript of Abrams Report interview with George Felos and Pam Anderson, transcription of Terri's bone scan, legalese for dummies version of Gov. Bush's motion to dismiss Sciavo's suit against the Constitutionality of Terri's Law, link to FatherOfLiberty's research on HBOT (Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy), links to ACLJ involvement in Schiavo case and Father Rob Johansen's daily update.

There are four other relevant posts that I want to highlight here in case anyone missed them or didn't get pinged. These are a general Terri thread troll alert, an especially thoughtful post about the sincere effort that FReepers are making in Terri's behalf, the Father's Love Letter , and remarks made by Jim Robinson on this issue and reposted here by lonevoice.


Click on pic for Terri's website


This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

There was a tremendous amount of information posted on the previous thread. For anyone who hasn't been following the daily threads, links to relevant posts and information from the previous thread are contained in the body of the present one. I have found that very helpful in trying to find something later. You people are doing a spectacular job of getting information out and also in helping to keep all of us updated here. What a great joint effort. This fight, to me, illustrates beautifully what Free Republic is about and what it means to be a FReeper. Way to go FRiends. Keep up the good work!


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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: attorneyfromhell; buttout; daily; euthanasia; florida; forcesofevil; georgefelos; guardianfromhell; hino; merchantsofdeath; michaelschiavo; righttolife; schiavo; schiavothread; schindler; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Thanks much.
41 posted on 11/07/2003 9:21:12 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Why NMGA cna't you read??? I'm in the Hinterlands.....
Kidding NMGA, Kidding.....

I'll freep mail you
42 posted on 11/07/2003 9:22:26 PM PST by Lone Voice in the hinterlands
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To: nicmarlo
Break a leg! You'll find stuff.
43 posted on 11/07/2003 9:22:32 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida
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To: Lone Voice in the hinterlands
WEll thatt would be a long drive, no?
44 posted on 11/07/2003 9:23:37 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: nicmarlo
See above post. Also, yes, I had heard some of Ms. Shook's testimony, but I am going to post this here for any who haven't. Thanks for all your research.

Apr 27, 2001

Judge orders woman's feedings to resume

By DAVID SOMMER of The Tampa Tribune

A judge ordered Terri Schiavo's feeding to resume Thursday night after her husband's former girlfriend came forward to say he misled another judge to get the feeding stopped. ``I'm elated. Everyone is jumping up and down and making so much noise,'' Bob Schindler said when told that his daughter would not be denied food for a fourth day.

Fighting back tears, Schindler immediately wanted to know how long a reprieve Terri Schiavo had received. His daughter has been in a comalike, persistent vegetative state since 1990.

That will hinge on what an ex-girlfriend of her husband, Michael Schiavo, has to say when lawyers on both sides take the ex-girlfriend's sworn deposition, said Circuit Judge Frank Quesada.

If Cindy Shook Brashers says what Schindler and a private detective have already sworn she will say, then there is a good chance Schindler and his wife, Mary, can prove that Michael Schiavo committed perjury, Quesada ruled after an emergency twilight hearing.

In separate conversations Wednesday, Brashers told Schindler and a private detective that, while she and Schiavo were dating in 1992, he twice told her that Terri Schiavo and he never talked about what should be done if she ever ended up on life support with no hope of recovery, court records state.

That directly contradicts what Michael Schiavo testified to at a January 2000 trial that resulted in him getting permission to stop feeding his wife .

After ordering the feeding to resume late Thursday, Quesada said he is mindful of Schiavo's concern that disconnecting his wife's feeding tube Tuesday and then reconnecting it Thursday night is ``put ting everyone on an emotional roller coaster.''

Brashers' deposition needs to be taken swiftly, and any appeal of his order resuming feeding needs to be done ``first thing tomorrow morning,'' the judge said.

The ruling capped an unusual day in which the Schindlers tried to get two local judges to order the feeding resumed.

Shortly before noon, the Schindlers filed a petition asking Circuit Judge George Greer to reverse his verdict in the January 2000 nonjury trial. Greer is the judge who originally ruled that Terri Schiavo's feeding tube should be disconnected and she should be allowed to die.

That verdict, which was appealed all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, came after Michael Schiavo and two relatives testified that his wife, prior to a 1990 heart attack, had spoken of not wanting to be kept alive artificially should she ever be incapacitated with no hope of recovery.

The 37-year-old woman sleeps and wakes but cannot speak and is fed liquid nutrients through a tube into her stomach.

A doctor hired by Michael Schiavo said Terri Schiavo's brain is destroyed and she hears, feels and sees nothing. He was the only doctor to testify at the 2000 trial.

The Schindlers say their daughter reacts to them with laughter, smiles and moans during visits. They contend Michael Schiavo stands to inherit about $700,000 remaining in a trust fund set up after the Schiavos won a 1992 malpractice award against doctors who treated Terri Schiavo prior to the heart attack.

Michael Schiavo could not be reached for comment.

His attorney, George Felos, characterized Brashers as a ``disgruntled ex-girlfriend'' and said he wanted to hear what she had to say under oath.

`I don't think there are any words to can express the outrage that he feels and the pain in the heart that he feels'' because his wife will now continue to suffer, Felos said.

Greer, who was asked to overturn his verdict Thursday, did not comment on what he was told Brashers had to say.

Instead, the judge denied the request because state law sets a one-year limit on challenging verdicts with new evidence.

After Greer's ruling, the Schindlers' volunteer defense team quickly filed a lawsuit against Michael Schiavo, accusing him of deliberately causing the couple emotional pain and suffering by lying about Terri Schiavo in court.

That new case was randomly assigned to Quesada, who called an emergency hearing.

In 1992, Michael Schiavo told jurors in the malpractice case that he intended to learn nursing so he could care for his wife for their rest of their lives together, Schindler attorney James Eckert told Quesada.

`I wouldn't trade her for my life. I believe in my wedding vows,' Eckert quoted Michael Schiavo as saying in 1992.

Quesada said he ordered Terri Schiavo's feeding to resume to protect the Schindlers from additional harm should their claim against Schiavo turn out to have merit.

45 posted on 11/07/2003 9:27:10 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Lone Voice in the hinterlands
I do have some local contacts for that state. I will freepmail you tommorow when I get a chance to compile info. Mostly media you could call.
46 posted on 11/07/2003 9:31:54 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: Ohioan from Florida
If you go to this site, and type in her name (Jodi Centonze), and then scroll to the bottom and hit "begin search," it appears that there are numerous transactions going on, many in 1999 (2003 - 6 years = 1997 when she began seeing MS), in what all seems to be in her name. Jodi Centonze

Interesting, at least. I read on a post that MS is allegedly funneling assets into her name. Of course, we don't know this to be true....

47 posted on 11/07/2003 9:32:18 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: No More Gore Anymore; nicmarlo
Maybe nic thought you had clicked the screen name and saw where he/she? lived and so that would have made it a silly question........I'm in FL but no where near Pinellas

it's late folks and you're on the same side...kiss and make up 8^)
48 posted on 11/07/2003 9:33:38 PM PST by tutstar
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To: No More Gore Anymore; Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; ...
Ping to #11.
49 posted on 11/07/2003 9:34:15 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: nicmarlo
You may also want to see if she has any connections to the town that Michael and Terri were from. I can't remember the name , it is a suburb of philly PA. Someone I know from an e-mail loop that I belonged to when I lived in PA mentioned they thought they knew this Jodi from when she was young. I think she is on website , so it would be before her senior year high school.
50 posted on 11/07/2003 9:36:05 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: All
Have you heard this clip from Glenn Beck? Steve Schiavo is the caller.

GB: Do we, in America, starve handicap people to death?

SS: Yes, if that's what the court calls for.
51 posted on 11/07/2003 9:36:28 PM PST by wisconsinconservative (Christian, Conservative.......and proud of it)
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To: sweetliberty
Isn't this something. Greer would not set aside his decision with new testimony because a whole year went by, however another Judge jumped in and resumed the feeding, he didnt' care at all about the year having gone by. Greer has been a horrible horrible judge.

Hopefully Judge Greer is feeling a bit naked right now now that the Florida Legislature, the Govenor of Florida AND the President of the YouNighted States of America all are trampling on his "turf" in disagreement with his rulings.

Perhaps with the big guns second guessing him he is being more fair towards the Schindlers becasue he knows now he is being watched. I think this is why he is permitting the new guardianship hearing to move forward and NOT be dismissed.

52 posted on 11/07/2003 9:36:57 PM PST by Lone Voice in the hinterlands
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To: sweetliberty
yw, sweetliberty....I'm still looking out in googleland. : )
53 posted on 11/07/2003 9:37:09 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: tutstar
tis very late....and I should be getting some sleep now. : )
54 posted on 11/07/2003 9:39:11 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: No More Gore Anymore
I will be checking out PA, too. Perhaps they also have a public access site for court records online.
55 posted on 11/07/2003 9:39:48 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Pinellas county records shows a home which is approx $240,000 with $15,000 pool....Michael reportedly drives decent model Mercedes....

he is listed on corporation page.......
56 posted on 11/07/2003 9:40:17 PM PST by tutstar
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To: sweetliberty
I find this stuff just so incredible. Absolutely incredible.
57 posted on 11/07/2003 9:41:14 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: tutstar
Is that a link to download something? If so (or not), thanks....I will look at it in the a.m. I should probably get some sleep; I was up until 4:00 a.m. today, and now it's almost 1:00 already.....sheesh!
58 posted on 11/07/2003 9:43:24 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: sweetliberty; All
thanks again for all your hard work....I'm off to bed, am getting pretty tired here. I'm sure we'll catch up again tomorrow! Night, sweetliberty; night all.
59 posted on 11/07/2003 9:44:20 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Well, now you are informed. Many of the "trolls" on our forum have not bothered to research the whole story. Even Peter, Dan, Tom, and Katie seem ignorant about all this. Maybe when the "trolls" do a little work they will understand and decide that defending Schiavo is not worth their effort. But then again the "trolls" are proud, stubborn people who believe in the false "right-to-die."
60 posted on 11/07/2003 9:44:58 PM PST by Theodore R.
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