Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates) November 8 -10

Various | November 7, 2003 | sweetliberty

[sweetliberty]

"But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty (1 Corin. 1:27)

[sweetliberty]

Hey y'all....over here.

[tutstar]

gotcha

[nicmarlo]

Great job, once again, sweetliberty!!!

[Lone Voice in the hinterlands]

I posted the below earlier today and I am very disappointed that no one called me back! I left 2 voice mail messages and so far did not receive a reply.

Can others call the phone numbers and ask the same questions? Perhaps if others call, more than just me, they will decide that they should answer the questions.

If you get an answer could you kindly post the information on this message board? Thanx.

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Regarding the parents petition to remove Michael as Terri's legal guardian, this was Heard Wed Nov 5, 2003.

IN THE CIRCUIT COURT FOR PINELLAS COUNTY, FLORIDA

PROBATE DIVISION

File No. 90-2908GD-003

I called the court and left messages asking when this will be back in court and also how do I a get a copy of the transcripts from the Wednesday Nov 5th hearing?

Here is the Number for the Clerk of Courts - 727-464-3341
Here is the Number for Judge Greer - 727-464-3933

I had to leave messages on voice mail. When they get back to me I will post that information here.

If you would like to write to Judge Greer his e-mail address is ggreer@co.pinellas.fl.us

[Theodore R.]

It may be that the court does not work on Friday afternoon, or they may have been too swamped to return your call. Of course, they may be avoiding you. You don't think they would do that though, do you?

[nicmarlo]

Keep trying, Lone Voice.....I'm wondering if people in Florida, near that Courthouse, might be able to go in person and request the information.....

[Diva Betsy Ross]

What questions are you asking them?

[Diva Betsy Ross]

What questions are you asking them?

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Hey that is a great idea.. why don't you go nicmarlo

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Posted by No More Gore Anymore to FL_engineer
On News/Activism 11/07/2003 1:15 PM PST #984 of 1,130

Hi could you ping this for me.
Operation Birthday Greeting: clelebrating the life of Terri Schindler.

DO you want to help? This is what I need you guys to do. If anyone knows business owners in the Clearwater, West Palm Beach florida area please contact me. Also I want to know if we could get a wheelchair delievered for a birthday gift from her supporters. I wasn't sure if anyone was working on this already.

Cindydawg has an idea of Birthday billboard, I am working on that still, I may have a lead, at least someone who is trying to ehlp me with a BIG billboard. Anyone else who has leads, please contact me.

Anyone who has contact with the vigil, please freepamil me. I have some ideas I have gathered from other freepers to have gifts delieverd to the hospice. How about a case of spoons, a wheechair ,a free trip somewhere for leaving the hospice.

Any ideas people have will be welcomed. Let's organize an event that the media will want to cover ,and put it out there. We are celebrationg the LIFE of Terri Schindler. Any one who has photos of a young Terri , plese contact me.. perhaps we could put a presentation together and apeal to Hannity to help us get this all on his program.

Please let me know.

[nicmarlo]

Search Statewide Official Records

The following Official Records have been found to match your search criteria. To order a specific Record, click the "Order" box to the left of the Record and then click the "Order Record(s)" button at the bottom of the page.

Your search returned 16 documents and 16 parties.
The number of Pages are estimated for documents where the Pages value is marked with *.

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	SCHIAVO THERESA MARIE		02/16/1993	PROBATE DOCUMENT	PINELLAS	BP00000081791518	8179/1518	1
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	SCHIAVO THERESA M		07/03/1990	PROBATE DOCUMENT	PINELLAS	BP00000073200751	7320/751	2
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	SCHIAVO THRESA MARIE		04/07/1993	PROBATE DOCUMENT	PINELLAS	BP00000082311969	8231/1969	1
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	SCHIAVO WILLIAM F		06/03/2003	PROBATE DOCUMENT	PINELLAS	0000000003226269	12793/1515	1
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[nicmarlo]

If I lived near that Courthouse, I would, Gore. duh.

[sweetliberty]

Thanks, nic. By the way, have I mentioned how nice it is to have you back?

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Was there some need to be so sassy nicmarlo?

[nicmarlo]

Don't know, was there, Gore?

[nicmarlo]

Thanks, sweetliberty....good to be back! : )

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Don't know you are the one who responded to me,I can't claim to know what motivates you.. anyway...was there? :}

[nicmarlo]

Perhaps it was YOUR stupid remark. duh.

[arepublicifyoucankeepit]

Thank you so much fellow Freepers for keeping us posted on Terri's fight. I have and will continue to pray for Terri and her family. This ordeal has been a gut-wrencher for me. I've been telling my husband that I have to check on "my girl". God Bless you Freepers for all you do.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

What was so stupid about my reamark? Pretty testy aren't you?

[nicmarlo]

No, but your comment was an unnecessary cheap shot, obviously not said in fun, and unprovoked.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Could you help me with this (see post #11). I don't have a ping list. Thanks

[Diva Betsy Ross]

No, it was a simple question.

[nicmarlo]

Whatever you say.

[Salvation]

Sign this petition for Terri!

http://www.yourcatholicvoice.org/index.php?id=petition&petition=

[Diva Betsy Ross]

okay ,then I guess we have that straighten out.

[Lone Voice in the hinterlands]

Hey you two guys Peace...Love... and all that.

Back on topic.
I left voice mails at both Pinellas County Court Phone numbers shown above with the following 2 questions.
#1-When will this case be back in court again
#2-How can I get a copy of the transcripts of what was said on Wednesday nov 5th?

So of anybody else could call beside just me that is the two questions I am interested in.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

So what question are you asking them. I guess I should ahve asked you in response to the freepmail you just sent me.... I am not clear on what your want us to do here. COuld you elaborate a bit?

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Hey likeI said we have it straighten out. Okay so no wI see your questions..were you able to get that info from nic's last post to you? Or do we still need to call?

[mickie]

Did you see the nice article and picture of Terri on the front page of
The Catholic Standard & Times?
Her graduation picture from Archbishop Woods in Penna.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Do you ahve a link to that. I may be able to use that for my project.. see post #11 here.

[nicmarlo]

Does anyone know the name of MS's girlfriend?

[Lone Voice in the hinterlands]

Post 5 and Post 28 Both are concerning finding out the next cort date on the parents request to have Michael relieved as guaridan. Ni thanks for the post you provided however looking at it I do nto see that it answers the questions.

So if others will also call the phone numbers in post #5 and adk for the next court date and how to get transcrips I would appreciate it.

[sweetliberty]

Jodi Centzone or something like that....I'll have to look up the spelling on the last name.

[Lone Voice in the hinterlands]

No More Gore Any More-
GREAT on taking the initiative on the Birthday Celebration for Terri (see Post #11) I will do whatever I can from afar.

Others why not give a reply back to NMGA (had to abbreviate No more Gore Anymore it was getting long to type)and let him know of your support.

[nicmarlo]

have you seen this before? Judge orders woman's feedings to resume Apr 27, 2001

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Great where are you , because I have some contacts all over the place I could use help with.

[Ohioan from Florida]

Jodi Ann Centonze, also Jodi Ann Blough at some other point in time.

[nicmarlo]

I want to see if I can find anything on her. Thanks.

[nicmarlo]

Thanks much.

[Lone Voice in the hinterlands]

Why NMGA cna't you read??? I'm in the Hinterlands.....
Kidding NMGA, Kidding.....

I'll freep mail you

[Ohioan from Florida]

Break a leg! You'll find stuff.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

WEll thatt would be a long drive, no?

[sweetliberty]

See above post. Also, yes, I had heard some of Ms. Shook's testimony, but I am going to post this here for any who haven't. Thanks for all your research.

Apr 27, 2001

Judge orders woman's feedings to resume

By DAVID SOMMER of The Tampa Tribune

A judge ordered Terri Schiavo's feeding to resume Thursday night after her husband's former girlfriend came forward to say he misled another judge to get the feeding stopped. ``I'm elated. Everyone is jumping up and down and making so much noise,'' Bob Schindler said when told that his daughter would not be denied food for a fourth day.

Fighting back tears, Schindler immediately wanted to know how long a reprieve Terri Schiavo had received. His daughter has been in a comalike, persistent vegetative state since 1990.

That will hinge on what an ex-girlfriend of her husband, Michael Schiavo, has to say when lawyers on both sides take the ex-girlfriend's sworn deposition, said Circuit Judge Frank Quesada.

If Cindy Shook Brashers says what Schindler and a private detective have already sworn she will say, then there is a good chance Schindler and his wife, Mary, can prove that Michael Schiavo committed perjury, Quesada ruled after an emergency twilight hearing.

In separate conversations Wednesday, Brashers told Schindler and a private detective that, while she and Schiavo were dating in 1992, he twice told her that Terri Schiavo and he never talked about what should be done if she ever ended up on life support with no hope of recovery, court records state.

That directly contradicts what Michael Schiavo testified to at a January 2000 trial that resulted in him getting permission to stop feeding his wife .

After ordering the feeding to resume late Thursday, Quesada said he is mindful of Schiavo's concern that disconnecting his wife's feeding tube Tuesday and then reconnecting it Thursday night is ``put ting everyone on an emotional roller coaster.''

Brashers' deposition needs to be taken swiftly, and any appeal of his order resuming feeding needs to be done ``first thing tomorrow morning,'' the judge said.

The ruling capped an unusual day in which the Schindlers tried to get two local judges to order the feeding resumed.

Shortly before noon, the Schindlers filed a petition asking Circuit Judge George Greer to reverse his verdict in the January 2000 nonjury trial. Greer is the judge who originally ruled that Terri Schiavo's feeding tube should be disconnected and she should be allowed to die.

That verdict, which was appealed all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, came after Michael Schiavo and two relatives testified that his wife, prior to a 1990 heart attack, had spoken of not wanting to be kept alive artificially should she ever be incapacitated with no hope of recovery.

The 37-year-old woman sleeps and wakes but cannot speak and is fed liquid nutrients through a tube into her stomach.

A doctor hired by Michael Schiavo said Terri Schiavo's brain is destroyed and she hears, feels and sees nothing. He was the only doctor to testify at the 2000 trial.

The Schindlers say their daughter reacts to them with laughter, smiles and moans during visits. They contend Michael Schiavo stands to inherit about $700,000 remaining in a trust fund set up after the Schiavos won a 1992 malpractice award against doctors who treated Terri Schiavo prior to the heart attack.

Michael Schiavo could not be reached for comment.

His attorney, George Felos, characterized Brashers as a ``disgruntled ex-girlfriend'' and said he wanted to hear what she had to say under oath.

`I don't think there are any words to can express the outrage that he feels and the pain in the heart that he feels'' because his wife will now continue to suffer, Felos said.

Greer, who was asked to overturn his verdict Thursday, did not comment on what he was told Brashers had to say.

Instead, the judge denied the request because state law sets a one-year limit on challenging verdicts with new evidence.

After Greer's ruling, the Schindlers' volunteer defense team quickly filed a lawsuit against Michael Schiavo, accusing him of deliberately causing the couple emotional pain and suffering by lying about Terri Schiavo in court.

That new case was randomly assigned to Quesada, who called an emergency hearing.

In 1992, Michael Schiavo told jurors in the malpractice case that he intended to learn nursing so he could care for his wife for their rest of their lives together, Schindler attorney James Eckert told Quesada.

`I wouldn't trade her for my life. I believe in my wedding vows,' Eckert quoted Michael Schiavo as saying in 1992.

Quesada said he ordered Terri Schiavo's feeding to resume to protect the Schindlers from additional harm should their claim against Schiavo turn out to have merit.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

I do have some local contacts for that state. I will freepmail you tommorow when I get a chance to compile info. Mostly media you could call.

[nicmarlo]

If you go to this site, and type in her name (Jodi Centonze), and then scroll to the bottom and hit "begin search," it appears that there are numerous transactions going on, many in 1999 (2003 - 6 years = 1997 when she began seeing MS), in what all seems to be in her name. Jodi Centonze

Interesting, at least. I read on a post that MS is allegedly funneling assets into her name. Of course, we don't know this to be true....

[tutstar]

Maybe nic thought you had clicked the screen name and saw where he/she? lived and so that would have made it a silly question........I'm in FL but no where near Pinellas

it's late folks and you're on the same side...kiss and make up 8^)

[sweetliberty]

Ping to #11.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

You may also want to see if she has any connections to the town that Michael and Terri were from. I can't remember the name , it is a suburb of philly PA. Someone I know from an e-mail loop that I belonged to when I lived in PA mentioned they thought they knew this Jodi from when she was young. I think she is on classmates.com website , so it would be before her senior year high school.