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Gore, Daschle: Bush Admin Used War for Politics, Civil Liberties Grab (Today Show Alert)
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Posted on 11/10/2003 4:33:20 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

Just when you thought The Today Show couldn't outdo itself for liberal bias and Bush bashing, along comes this morning's show to demonstrate that Today hasn't hit bottom yet.

The opening footage of this morning's Today Show was a clip of an angry Al Gore, giving a speech it which he accused the Bush administration of "using the war for partisan political gain and posturing themselves as bold defenders of our country while actually weakening rather than strengthening security." Gore called for the repeal of the Patriot Act

Gore must have been unavailable as a guest, but Today made do with Tom Daschle, who ostensibly appeared to flack his new [straight-to-remainder-bin] book "Like No Other Time: The 107th Congress."

Lauer conducted the interview, and was more than happy to offer Daschle the most negative possible interpretation of Bush administration moves and invite Daschle to agree.

Lauer opened with a clip of Gore saying: "it makes no more sense in fighting the war on terrorism to launch an attack on our civil liberties than to launch an assault on Iraq to get OBL."

Daschle was pleased to endorse Gore's thesis.

Of course, being the "man of principle" he is, Daschle equivocated when it came to doing much about the "attack on civil liberties" that Gore alleged.

Q. Do you want to repeal Patriot Act? A. Not sure I'd want to repeal it [but we should look into things, blah, blah, blah]

Lauer than cited Gore's allegation that the war on terror "was an excuse to make a power grab for our personal liberties. The Republicans used the campaign on terror to bolster support for their political standing."

In one of the most stunning personal expressions of his world view I've ever witnessed, Lauer then offered this picture of the Bush administration's tactics:

"So it was smoke and mirrors, drawing people's attention on one thing, to take away civil liberties at the same time?"

Daschle was only too happy to agree with Lauer.

Q. But you supported the $87 billion. Are you comfortable with the way it will be spent?

A. I supported the $65 billion for the troops, but I had reservations about the $22 billion for reconstruction of Iraq.

Lauer: So you would have liked to have separated that?

Daschle: Yes, but we couldn't.

They then spent a couple minutes on Daschle's book, "No Other Time," the story of the 107th Congress.

The political high point for Daschle was Jumpin' Jumpin' Jim Jeffords' defection. The worst was the election of '02 when Dems lost Senate.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: South Dakota; US: Tennessee; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alwankergore; dachle; daschle; dinglenorwood; gore; liberalmediabias; lockbox; patriotact; riskyscheme; todayshow; wot
Today let Gore and Daschle get in all their whacks at the Bush administration without a guest from the GOP side or even a challenging question from Lauer.

Lauer's suggestion that the war on terror was a conscious diversion by the Bush administration to create a smokescreen for purposes of grabbing civil liberties, was one of the vilest moments in the long, inglorious history of The Today Show.

1 posted on 11/10/2003 4:33:21 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...
Today Show ping. One for the liberal-media-bias archives.
2 posted on 11/10/2003 4:34:20 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Thanks for watching the trash for us! I just can't stomach this stuff in the morning.
3 posted on 11/10/2003 4:36:10 AM PST by SubMareener
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"using the war for partisan political gain

Perhaps Algore didn't get a copy of the leaked memo?

Pot...kettle...and such...

4 posted on 11/10/2003 4:38:38 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Forth now, and fear no darkness!")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Lauer apparently lacks any depth of understanding regarding the War on Terrorism. A person has to be shallow-minded to be a liberal in the first place. Some humans are born with logic, and some are not. Demonstrations such as Laur's expose the lack of intelligence in liberals.
5 posted on 11/10/2003 4:39:49 AM PST by abclily
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Daschle gleefuly followed that line of questioning!

(I often ask myself, how is it that the Democratic leadership can look at their reflections in the mirror, without realizing that they are frauds with no integrity who LIE every waking moment?)
6 posted on 11/10/2003 4:40:09 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Great point!
7 posted on 11/10/2003 4:43:19 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Who are the sponsors of this show? I think they ought to know how REAL Americans feel about the blatant Hypocrat bias--maybe then they'll get a clue as to why they are losing market share.

If we can scold CBS over RR, we can do the same HERE.
8 posted on 11/10/2003 4:48:01 AM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Not sure that I've sufficiently expressed just how momentous was this interview and Gore's speech.

The Democrats can no longer be considered a "loyal opposition" offering a constructive critique of the party in power. They are now flatly claiming that the Bush administration is using the war on terrorism as a pretext for stealing personal liberties away from the American people.

That is one of the ugliest, most serious allegations that could possibly be made. The Democrats are accusing the Republicans of using American blood to undermine the Constitution.

That the liberal media are aiding and abetting the Dems, as demonstrated this morning, is an interesting if less important sidenote.

We have entered a new political epoch. The Dems, fearing that the political landscape is shifting against them in some fundamental way, are pulling out all the stops in this desperate, brutal assault on the Bush administration.
9 posted on 11/10/2003 4:48:39 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
At the very least, I wish Lauer had asked Daschle, and by extension Gore, why they think that the Bush administration would have any interest in taking away Americans' civil liberties.
10 posted on 11/10/2003 4:50:26 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
This is outrageous. The depths they are willing to descend is just outrageous.

Our nation is at the edge of terror from militant Islamists, we need all the unity and spirit we can muster. These democrats are helping the enemy. Are they stupid or are they working with the enemy?

11 posted on 11/10/2003 4:51:00 AM PST by joyful1
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Pick a sponsor of the show, write them with your excellent question...you can have a voice!

Sponsors need to hear from us. They need to know what the people who buy their products think about the biased shows they sponsor.

12 posted on 11/10/2003 4:53:18 AM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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To: All
Listen people, the dems have nothing. We all know they are such an unscrupulous bunch of bitter ole prix!

These tactics used today will only embolden conservatives to come out in droves to show them we are not going to let them run ruff shod over this country anymore!

The Clinton legacy brought this upon them, let them rage!

13 posted on 11/10/2003 4:57:45 AM PST by sirchtruth
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To: Judith Anne
Daschle is going to be on Fox and Friends in a little bit. See if the tenor of that interview is different from the Today Show.
14 posted on 11/10/2003 4:58:59 AM PST by babaloo
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To: joyful1
These democrats are helping the enemy. Are they stupid or are they working with the enemy?

I think it's a situation in which the Democrats are so frustrated and enraged by being out of power that they are willing to try virtually anything to get back into the White House and regain their congressional majorities.

15 posted on 11/10/2003 4:59:34 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: babaloo
I've never seen the Fox folk be rude to someone's face, and even if it's Daschle, I doubt they will call him the LIAR and HYPOCRAT that he is.

But Fox, politely, has REFUSED to let the memogate story die. And if we encourage them with our emailed and written comments, they will CONTINUE.

Daschle isn't on the committee anyway, though it's obvious that he is following the memo directives.
16 posted on 11/10/2003 5:02:36 AM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
why they think that the Bush administration would have any interest in taking away Americans' civil liberties.

More to the point...name ONE liberty that has been lost??

17 posted on 11/10/2003 5:06:52 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
You got it exactly right..."Lauer conducted the interview, and was more than happy to offer Daschle the most negative possible interpretation of Bush administration moves and invite Daschle to agree."

Daschle's presence was unnecessary...I don't think I've ever seen anything like this before.

18 posted on 11/10/2003 5:11:33 AM PST by YaYa123
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To: All
Daschle on Fox & Friends right now.
19 posted on 11/10/2003 5:16:40 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The high point was Jim Jeffords ?How statesmanlike.
20 posted on 11/10/2003 5:18:36 AM PST by MEG33
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Here's another quote from the Gore speech, as reported by ABC News:

"They have taken us much farther down the road toward an intrusive, 'big brother'-style government toward the dangers prophesied by George Orwell in his book '1984' than anyone ever thought would be possible in the United States of America," Gore charged.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20031109_969.html
21 posted on 11/10/2003 5:18:40 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
How and the world has ANYONES personal liberties been affected by the war on Iraq???? I swear these idiots keep grasping for straws and come up with a hand full of crap.
22 posted on 11/10/2003 5:19:45 AM PST by rintense
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To: YaYa123
Devastating.Email Lauer with that comment.
23 posted on 11/10/2003 5:21:29 AM PST by MEG33
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Daschle is such a HYPOCRAT. He's saying that the MEMO was politicized.

Fox and Friends are letting him talk. He says it is a "shame" that the memo was released. Edie says there are acouple of valid points in the memo.

FRiends, the Dems are scared of the impact of the memo--but ONLY if WE keep up the outrage! If WE let it drop, they will win! Please, today--call the Senate at their toll-free number, leave a message for YOUR senator and anyone else you can think of--send an email, let them know that we think they are traitors!

If we let this drop, they will all just smooth it over and go on with business as usual, and American troops will DIE.

24 posted on 11/10/2003 5:23:19 AM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
This amid reports from an Iraqi Human Rights organization of 263 mass grave sites all over Iraq. Some are found to contain the bodies of women and children. All shot in the head.

These oh-so-compassionate Liberal Dimocrats would have been content to continually turn a blind eye to Saddam's treatment of his own people. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Clinton take the U.S. in Kosovo, and meddle in the affairs of a sovereign nation for what amounted to much less?

25 posted on 11/10/2003 5:26:43 AM PST by The Scorpion King
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To: Judith Anne
I'm disappointed by the very soft questioning Daschle's receiving on Fox & Friends. So far they haven't asked him to comment on Gore's allegation that the Bush admin made a calculated decision to use the WOT as a pretext to grab civil liberties.
26 posted on 11/10/2003 5:27:47 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Me too. I'm going to post a Fox article now.

A caller just made Daschle disagree with Gore over the Patriot act. Daschle said it shouldn't be repealed.
27 posted on 11/10/2003 5:30:22 AM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"...one of the vilest moments in the long, inglorious history of The Today Show."

Agreed. I couldn't even watch. I hit the button so fast it made little tommy daschle's head spin.
28 posted on 11/10/2003 5:32:35 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket (And always let our conscience be your guide.)
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To: joyful1
I believe the democrats would welcome another 9/11 if it would put them back in power.
29 posted on 11/10/2003 5:34:21 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I seem to recall that the 107th Congress brought the bill up, approved it in Both houses, and Bush signed it.

Am I missing something, or was Dashle complicit in these actions?

As usual, from the usual suspects.

And, did you take your meds before subjecting yourself to these hideous diatribes?

30 posted on 11/10/2003 5:39:50 AM PST by Maigrey (I wake up every morning and look over at that funny face and say, I'm the luckiest woman-B.Bush)
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To: Maigrey
did you take your meds before subjecting yourself to these hideous diatribes?

Seriously, yes I have. I've popped my Protonix (similar to Nexium), to combat the acid reflux I've been diagnosed with since starting these Today Show posts!

31 posted on 11/10/2003 5:42:30 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The want an independent counsel. Expect them to say and claim anything to get it.

They want to see all that "INTEL" that President Bush has.

They don't care what they have to do to get those two things.
32 posted on 11/10/2003 5:46:27 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Today let Gore and Daschle get in all their whacks at the Bush administration without a guest from the GOP side or even a challenging question from Lauer.

FOX and Friends did the same thing as well this morning. No challenge. Lots of back slapping. "great book".

Furthermore, Daschle Defended the intelligence memo.

33 posted on 11/10/2003 5:51:33 AM PST by Mark Felton (all liberty flows from the barrel of a gun)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
All of the networks are anti AMERICAN except mabe Fox but all the rest are anti Bush.A grab on freedom these bastards are still bashing bush thier freedom is still in tack.
34 posted on 11/10/2003 5:55:43 AM PST by solo gringo (Always Ranting Always Rite)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
why they think that the Bush administration would have any interest in taking away Americans' civil liberties.

Actually, by being in power, they're interfering with the Dems' program to remove civil (and other) liberties: campaign finance "reform," religious freedom (for Christians), freedom of association, private property rights, gun rights, etc. Dems see the Pubbies trampling on the "rights" of illegal immigrants and treasonous Dems.

35 posted on 11/10/2003 6:03:03 AM PST by maryz
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To: maryz
Interesting point!
36 posted on 11/10/2003 6:08:46 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: joyful1
They ARE working with the enemy, of course.

Here is another question, though.

If the liberals like to muse about September 11th, and say that it was America's fault that al Qaeda attacked us, then are they bold enough to say that this weekend's bombing in Riyadh is our fault, too?
37 posted on 11/10/2003 6:09:52 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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To: Judith Anne
Daschle said it shouldn't be repealed.

So which is it, Tommy? Is it that you want to protect our civil liberties which you characterize in peril, or is it that you don't want to tell your constituents that you are soft on terrorism? The duplicity is STUNNING!

38 posted on 11/10/2003 6:13:08 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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To: maryz
Very well said. An excellent point.
39 posted on 11/10/2003 6:17:51 AM PST by Judith Anne (Send a message to the Democrat traitors--ROCKEFELLER MUST RESIGN!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Lauer's suggestion that the war on terror was a conscious diversion by the Bush administration

Absurd.

40 posted on 11/10/2003 6:35:43 AM PST by unsycophant
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To: Judith Anne
Take heart. Today's ratings are tanking. ABC is nipping at their heels and THAT hasn't happened in a looooong time. I'll bet "hair-in-a-can Lauer isn't around much longer.

Is it any wonder?

41 posted on 11/10/2003 6:37:34 AM PST by chiller (could be wrong, but doubt it)
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To: chiller
Take heart. ABC is nipping at their heels

Should we take any comfort in the prospect of ABC's Good Morning America supplanting the Today Show in the ratings?

I don't monitor GMA in the same way I follow The Today Show, but from what I've seen there's no particular reason to think that it's any less aggressively liberal in its outlook.

42 posted on 11/10/2003 6:42:21 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: maryz
I truly hope and believe America realizes all you've posted. America sees not one bit of freedom lost by the Patriot act, whereas they see all the assaults you've stated coming from the left. It does remind me of 1984. What is, isn't.

Dems are delusional and in the process of going out of business.

43 posted on 11/10/2003 6:43:07 AM PST by chiller (could be wrong, but doubt it)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I love it. This crap is now on CNN, and hits me in the face when I sign on AOL. "Gore fears big brother," is the headline. Anybody still think these people aren't coordinated when they are running with the same message this quickly on a Monday?
44 posted on 11/10/2003 6:45:19 AM PST by Luke21
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
You ask ... why they think that the Bush administration would have any interest in taking away Americans' civil liberties?

Not sure why they would be interested ... but they did it!

45 posted on 11/10/2003 6:51:25 AM PST by LandofLincoln
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; All
Did you hear the clip of Gore when he said (paraphrased) that "They have tried to scare the American people so that they can control them. They only want to frighten the people so they can get their votes..."

My rememberence of the quote is VERY BAD. I wish I had it on tape. The quote was the perfect campaign ad. Just play it and ask if Gore was talking about the Democrats. Flashing "Welfare" and "Accusing Republicans of Starving the Elderly" on the screen at the appropriate moments during the quote would be PERFECT.
46 posted on 11/10/2003 7:00:30 AM PST by HeadOn (God-fearing American)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I couldn't agree more. I heard a speech by Gore, and first, I noticed the same ingredients as all the other Dem Candidates. The second thing I noticed is that Gore sounded like he was just reading a teleprompter and had no clue what words his mouth was saying. The audience was fairly silent and it sounded like people were going "huh?".

Then he stopped and there was a round of applause. I could just picture this scene. Gore stops speaking and a round of applause ensues from the applause machine, and the camera turns to the audience seating, where you see one street bum asleep in a seat. All other seats are empty.

Then I heard another Dem Pres. Candidate on some talk show, and he had the same spiel. He was asked what HE would do about Iraq, and he went into his tirade about NATO and getting the Iraqi's permission before the forces attacked Saddam.

The lead asked him what if Germany and France vetoed attack via NATO as well. Well, that screwed up his answer, so he did the DEM thing. He said, "I just can't see that happening." Then as he continued, he started backtracking about passing the bill to support the troops, not pulling out until Iraq is safe, etc. So, in the end, he wound up agreeing with Bush's actions, but tried to act like he didn't. His remark about getting the Iraqi's permission had me LMAO!

Just like many other Democratic plans, you send one email to: Joe Citizen, IRAQ. If Joe says OK, then you can attack.

47 posted on 11/10/2003 10:21:42 AM PST by UCANSEE2 ("Duty is ours, Results are God's" --John Quincy Adams)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The Dems, fearing that the political landscape is shifting against them in some fundamental way, are pulling out all the stops in this desperate, brutal assault on the Bush administration.

Democratic voters are usually the working stiff, and the oblivious. By that I mean those who are isolated from the everyday worries of the world, and who are in the throes of money and power, in one way or another. Like Hollywierdians.

The working stiff is a Democrat usually because he is union, and Organized Crime runs that. OC votes Democratic, because they want Democracy, no Republic. OC picked Democrat because they were the largest voting base, that was buyable. OC owns the DEM politicians, the media, Hollywierd, and the OC here in the US is dishonorable partners with the 300 some terrorist organizations, the Red Mafia, any crime outfit in the world.

They do not like Bush because he isn't a shady dealer. He won't look the other way.

They liked Iraq the way it was, because there were opportunities to exploit.

We traded Saddam food and medicine for oil, instead of giving him money. He sold it on the black market and likely fed the money into the terrorists, who by that time were gaining control of Iraq. 5000 Children a month died because of lack of that medicine.

Who do you think bought that food and medicine, and what did they do with it? Maybe you bought it. Paid for it twice, we did.

The media doesn't talk about that issue either.

We are fighting Organized Crime on a world-wide basis, with the Al Queda as the most powerful, at the moment, in Iraq,Syria, Afghanistan, Arabia, etc. They just demonstrated that their true goal is power, not their religion, as they killed NON-INFIDELS (Arabs) in Saudi Arabia to punish them for cooperating with the US.

They are using the Muslim religion for cover to run an Organized Crime front in the middle east. It's that simple, and President Bush knows it too. Solving the problem is, of course, very complicated, and must be done diplomatically. Which, Bush is doing.

Another thing I noticed is the Dems keep saying "Bush's failed war" or "Bush's failed plans".

This must be a talking point.

I fail to see where there has been a failure so far. Everything went better than expected, and everything that has happened since, Bush told us to expect.

Anyway (sorry I wandered),

48 posted on 11/10/2003 10:40:41 AM PST by UCANSEE2 ("Duty is ours, Results are God's" --John Quincy Adams)
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To: rintense
Even Sen. Feinstein agreed that the complaints about the Patriot Acts are launched against provisions that AREN'T even in the Act. When your friendly neighborhood Liberal complains about it, ask him/her which provision bothers them. Then ask them to research the Act. Odds are they'll find there's not much to complain about.
49 posted on 11/10/2003 2:18:15 PM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: From The Deer Stand
Oh I have no doubt that if Ashcroft were exploiting the PA, we'd hear a lot more folks complaining- from both sides of the aisle- than just the leftwing nuts like Gore and Streisand.
50 posted on 11/10/2003 4:52:21 PM PST by rintense
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