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Panel Rules Justice Moore Failed to Respect & Comply with Law; Judge removed from Supreme Court

Posted on 11/13/2003 9:23:02 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs

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To: Lurking Libertarian
it is about "State's Rights," it is not the Federal Government's business how the State of Alabama decorates it's buildings.

So those "Whites Only" signs they used to have up were OK by you?

Someone disobeyed the "Whites Only" law. It turned out well.

421 posted on 11/13/2003 12:24:22 PM PST by concerned about politics ( So it is. It is done.)
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To: george wythe
"Strong protections"?

Works fine, so far, for you in your state..
But what do we do with a rogue state, CA, that is banning guns, supported by rogue elements in the federal system allowing them to do so?

What happens when your state applies the same reasoning to ban your guns?
422 posted on 11/13/2003 12:25:19 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but FRs flying monkey squad brings out the Rickenbacker in me.)
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To: WackyKat
When will fundamentalist Christians wake up to the extent to which they are being manipulated and used?

Probably never. And they are a very profitable demographic for political and religious hucksters

The Left also has its share of fringe fanatics.

I remember visiting a "Christian" denomination called Unity, and I met people who believed very outlandish religious dogma.

These folks believed in the power of rocks, beads, affirmations, and other assorted BS.

I finally stopped going to the "church" after a member of the congregation, an author of several religious books, committed suicide. Nevertheless, when I went to his memorial service, the suicide was kept under wraps, and the family and friends talked about the author being taken by God because the author had "accomplished his mission."

The author was a victim of what Robert Ringer calls the 10-2 Theory... some people tend to believe their own BS.

423 posted on 11/13/2003 12:26:03 PM PST by george wythe
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To: Modernman
We Orthodox don't count. Too furrin, and all them pictures of Jesus and the apostles show them as bein' dark haired with aquiline features (as opposed to being blond, blue eyed Caucasians, playing in fields with 4 year olds and sheep).
424 posted on 11/13/2003 12:26:19 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Doctor Stochastic
You claim that slavery wasn't brought by Christians? Who by then? Moslems? Hindus? Wiccans? The Christian writers of the Constitution recognized slavery as legal (although I would guess that some would have liked to find a way to abolish slavert but couldn't figure out how to do it.)

The slavers that brought them to Mass. - what were their names? What was their worldview? Did they claim to be Christians - what is the evidence for this? Got any? If they did claim to be Christians, does that mean that they really were? If they werer or weren't does that inculpate all the inhabitants of New England? You have not made a case - you make it and then I'll respond.

I know about Jackson (he was an ancestor of mine.) I find it sad that he fought to preserve slavery. There have been many good people with glaring flaws; Jackson was one.

I find it sad that you don't understand the thinking of your own ancestor. In his own words, he did not fight for slavery. Who is right about Jackson? You or Jackson? All men are flawed pal, but Jackson was one of the best.

425 posted on 11/13/2003 12:27:25 PM PST by exmarine (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: exmarine
Beg your pardon but I have read Robertson's book. I know Bud Robertson personally -- not bosom buddies or anything but well enough to speak to him. The fact that Jackson taught Sunday school to slave children proves absolutely nothing in the context we're discussing.

"FACT: It was NOT christians who introduced slavery. The Christians were in the North at that time - Pilgrims and puritans - no slaves there!"

As you've pointed out this WHOLLE country was overwhelmingly Christian. I think its a very safe bet that Christians in the South were deeply involved in establishing slavery. Or do just the Puritans and Pilgrims qualify as Christians in your mind? I think that would come as a shock to some of those fine Virginia gentlemen. Sorry, but Christians did help establish slavery. Maybe not Northern Christians, although many Northern Christians also thought slavery was a fine thing.

"...since your views of the past or are affected by your recent liberalized public education which attempts to denigrate all the founding fathers, I would re-educate myself on this topic if I were you to get a better truer perspective..."


You know nothing at all about how I view the founding fathers. I've said nothing whatsoever about what I think about them (Jackson wasn't a founding father last time I looked). I was educated a fair number of years ago and the founding fathers were not denigrated at the time. I am a Virginian and hold the founding fathers in high regard, although I do now know they weren't perfect. My wife went to Mr. Jefferson's University, and I went to a university named after our first president AND the commander of the Army of Northern Virginia. You can drop your lectures.

It appears to me from your posts that you would like the U.S. to be a Christian version of other countries that are dictated to and run by the predominant religion. That's not the country I want to live in.
426 posted on 11/13/2003 12:29:14 PM PST by kegler4
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To: exmarine
http://www.governor.state.al.us/email/contact_form.htm

For the idiot governor. Remember to be civil. Idiots appreciate civility and are more receptive to the same. There may be a link to Pryor's address at that site. But my guess is Pryor has his eyes on Moore's position.
427 posted on 11/13/2003 12:30:11 PM PST by ZULU
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To: tpaine
What happens when your state applies the same reasoning to ban your guns?

Point well taken, since for me, the Second Amendment is one of the main one, if not the main amendment.

I'd say we need to get busy making sure our state constitutions guarantee as many rights as possible.

The right to keep and bear arms should be engraved in each state constitution.

428 posted on 11/13/2003 12:30:23 PM PST by george wythe
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
You're a Ba'alist, too? Conservative or Reform?

I'm an Orthodox Ba'alist. I don't cotton to no newfangled Ba'alism.

429 posted on 11/13/2003 12:31:01 PM PST by Modernman (What Would Jimmy Buffet Do?)
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To: george wythe
Yeh. The Bible predicted the apostate churches would start to follow doctrins of evil. Look at the Episcaple church right now.
It was all prophacized over 2000 years ago.
I'm amazed, literally amazed, at the Bibles accuracy when it comes to prophacies.
"Blessed are those who reads aloud or hear the words of this prophacy, and observe the things written in it - for the appointed time is near. Comfort one another with these words. "
430 posted on 11/13/2003 12:31:03 PM PST by concerned about politics ( So it is. It is done.)
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To: GETMAIN
Don't forget, in San Francisco it is illegal to go to church. All Christians must have the cross branded on their forehead.
431 posted on 11/13/2003 12:31:29 PM PST by Grando Calrissian
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To: concerned about politics
Someone disobeyed the "Whites Only" law. It turned out well.

Did you have a straight face when you typed that? It was the people your beloved "states righters" oppressed who violated the law. They endured fire hoses, dogs, murder, church burning and bombing, and people had to come down South from other places to show support.

Where were all those courageous and moral Southern politicians and white Christian clergy to support the struggle against economic and political lockout?

432 posted on 11/13/2003 12:32:22 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Indie
A little anti-religious bias here I think?

Nothing against the religious, just against those who co-opt every historical figure that ever used a platitude like 'By the Grace of God' and claim they are of some particular, or any, belief.

So9

433 posted on 11/13/2003 12:32:26 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Effing the Ineffable.)
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To: exmarine
"The slavers that brought them to Mass. - what were their names? What was their worldview? Did they claim to be Christians - what is the evidence for this? Got any? If they did claim to be Christians, does that mean that they really were? If they werer or weren't does that inculpate all the inhabitants of New England? You have not made a case - you make it and then I'll respond."

Boy are you dodging now. It doesn't make any difference who brought them or what their views were. It was this overwhelmingly Christian nation that eagerly accepted the slaves and put them to work.
434 posted on 11/13/2003 12:32:42 PM PST by kegler4
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To: exmarine
How can you possibly try and defend the merging of church and state by using the Pilgrims as an example?
435 posted on 11/13/2003 12:33:15 PM PST by huck von finn
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To: exmarine
I am a Southerner. And I served in the military, too.

When are you going to start acting like one?

I must have missed the religious purity test you require of "real Southerners"

My family has lived in the South for over 300 years, and believe it or not, we have never been known for religious intolerance or fanaticism

436 posted on 11/13/2003 12:33:17 PM PST by WackyKat
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To: huck von finn
Do you suppose Ernest Angely has a God on bill-pay?
437 posted on 11/13/2003 12:34:06 PM PST by Grando Calrissian
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To: WackyKat
If the federal courts don't follow the vaunted rule of law embodied in the constitution why should moore be sanctioned for keeping the constitution? The problem is the government as embodied in these justices does'nt have as it's grounding that the constitution can be understood by any but learned jurists despite the simple language in which it was written. The people are outcasts as far as understanding the constitution. We're to dumb.
438 posted on 11/13/2003 12:34:18 PM PST by rottweiller_inc
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
I thought the little desktop commandments that Maher had on his show were a nice touch. Maybe a fiery hand of God screen saver, that torches the Commandments in Aramaic across your black screen?
439 posted on 11/13/2003 12:34:18 PM PST by lugsoul (And I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Judge Roy Idiot spit at the justice system and the justice system asked him to leave. Anyone shocked or angered by this isn't really a fan of the law but rather a fan of religion taking precedence over the law.

Kind of like that Osama guy.

440 posted on 11/13/2003 12:34:20 PM PST by sakic
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