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Remove Dennis Kucinich's Feeding Tube! (Terry Schiavo's Case By Ann Coulter!)
anncoulter.org ^ | 11/13/03 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 11/13/2003 2:27:19 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat

IN THE CURRENT battle over whether to remove the feeding tube from Florida woman Terri Schiavo, the basic positions are:

The only thing everyone seems to agree on is that the husband is creepy. Terri's parents are fighting like mad to keep Terri alive. The husband, Michael Schiavo, is living with another woman with whom he has one child and is expecting another. Yet he has mounted a monumental crusade to have Terri's feeding tube removed.

Terri is not brain-dead and requires no extraordinary means to be kept alive. She is breathing, her heart is pumping, her organs are functioning. All she needs is food and water. (Of course, all three are technically true of Kate Moss, too.) But her husband wants to starve her to death. As Larry King asked him, why not "walk away"?

That is the eternal mystery of this case. Assuming everything Michael says about Terri is true – she has no consciousness, she will never recover, and she would not want to live with feeding tubes – well, then, she's not in pain, bored, angry or upset. Dennis Kucinich has been in a persistent vegetative state for 20 years – how about not feeding him? Why is Michael Schiavo so obsessed with pulling Terri's feeding tube? Why can't he just walk away?

Michael's answer to Larry King was this: "Why should I, Larry? This is Terri's wish. This is Terri's choice." As King pointed out, Terri's alleged "wish" was not memorialized anywhere in writing, only in Michael's memory. Michael responded to this point by invoking the courts: "It's been decided for six years of litigation that this was Terri's wish."

I note that "six years of litigation" is not enough to end the lives of child-molesting serial killers on death row. The same people who want to kill Terri believe that death-row cases are never final, no matter how many courts and juries have spoken over how many decades.

Moreover, it's not as if court after court has heard testimony on Terri's wishes and have all unanimously agreed that Terri would have chosen death. One lone Florida circuit court judge, George Greer, credited Michael's testimony, finding "clear and convincing" evidence that Terri said she would not want to be kept alive on feeding tubes. Because Judge Greer was acting as the finder of fact, his finding is essentially unreviewable by any other court. Even the notorious Florida Supreme Court – which has a history of jumping in to try to save a dead man – refused to review the case.

Judge Greer's finding on Terri's wishes may be immune from legal review, but it's not immune from criticism. He's a finder of fact – he's not God. A few years ago, Judge Greer found that Helene Ball McGee did not have reasonable cause to believe domestic violence was imminent and denied her an order of protection. Two weeks later, Mrs. McGee was stabbed to death by her husband. So judges can make mistakes.

Judge Greer's pivotal "finding of fact" in the Schiavo case determining a life-or-death issue is based on something Terri allegedly said after watching a TV show. Michael didn't know his wife was bulimic, but he distinctly remembered Terri's remarks about a TV show. (It was an episode of "Melrose Place," during which she said that Heather Locklear's shoes were "to die for.")

After watching "Bambi," I'm against deer hunting. Then I go out the next day and order venison. Maybe we could have a higher standard of proof before the government orders a woman to die.

Despite Michael's insistence that he has a vivid memory of Terri expressing her wishes regarding death, note this exchange on "Larry King Live":

KING: I have a 35-year-old daughter. I've never asked her this question. I don't know if she has a living will. I hope she does. But if she doesn't, I don't know the answer to the question. Because most 35-year-olds, I guess, don't talk about it.

SCHIAVO: Nobody talks about death, Larry.

Michael apparently forgot to add – except for that one night I remember so clearly, Larry, when my wife, Terri, talked to me about death and expressed her firmly held desire not to be kept alive on a feeding tube.

If you start making damning admissions on "Larry King Live" – with your lawyer sitting next to you, no less – you have a problem. Larry King can interview Louis Farrakhan and make him look like a charmer.

As even the New York Times admits, Michael did not recall Terri's clearly stated desire to be taken off life support until after the million-dollar settlement was paid, most of it going for Terri's medical costs – and the remainder to her husband.

What offhand comments might Terri have made if she had read in the Baltimore Sun about Rod Brandner, who indicated that he was coming out of a coma by squeezing his son's hand in response to questions less than two hours before his life support system was to be turned off?

Or what if she had read the Associated Press news story on Chris Trickle, who lost 5 percent of his brain when he was shot in the head, but later came out of a nine-month coma to breathe on his own, eat three meals a day, and tell his girlfriend he loved her?

What would Terri have said after hearing that Gregory Dygas' mother refused to believe the doctors' assurances that Gregory was brain-dead and should be taken off life support, and six months later watched as Gregory sat up, talked and watched television?

What offhand remarks might Terri have made after reading about Terry Wallis, the Canadian man who just last summer awoke from a 19-year coma?

Or how about that case in Minnesota last year where the guy who'd been in a coma for decades suddenly reappeared and ran for Senate? What was his name? Walter Mondale?

(Note for the record: I want heroic measures taken to keep me alive, and I demand the immediate arrest of anyone trying to remove my life support.)

In the absence of a living will, I would think the courts ought to be erring on the side of life. But short of that, couldn't we at least all agree that the courts should not defer to the pull-the-plug demands from anyone who:

  1. expresses an unseemly enthusiasm for another person's death;
  2. was the only person present when the incident leading to the persistent vegetative state occurred;
  3. stands to make money off the person's death; or
  4. is wearing a "W.W.C.V.B.D.?" (what would Claus von Bulow do?) bracelet?



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: coulter; schiavo; schindler; terri; terrischiavo
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Join the Terri Schindler Life Ribbon Campaign
Join the Terri Schindler Life Ribbon Campaign!

41 posted on 11/13/2003 6:47:14 PM PST by pc93 (Please visit http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm)
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To: ChemistCat
Claus vol Bulow allegedly tried to murder his socialite wife Sunny vol Bulow by injecting her with insulin, which put her into a coma. I'm pretty sure he got off-- and pretty much everyone was pretty sure he was guilty. I think his wife is still in a coma, and I think Claus did benefit financially.
42 posted on 11/13/2003 6:54:23 PM PST by walden
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To: Recovering_Democrat; sweetliberty
*BUMP!*

Thanks, sweetie. That was energizing.

It is easy to get lost in the emotion and wrongness of Terri's case. How does Ann do this??? Summarized the whole case in one neat and scathing essay, complete with her own legally binding (I assume) "living will". Aren't we fortunate she's on our side? *g*

43 posted on 11/13/2003 6:58:30 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America to be passive. They counted wrong" ~RReagan)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
LOL Ann is right on point and pithy to boot!

44 posted on 11/13/2003 6:59:08 PM PST by msmagoo
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
" Aren't we fortunate she's on our side?"

Amen to that!

I still want to see her neuter George Felos on national TV though. Heheh..

45 posted on 11/13/2003 7:00:56 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: MeeknMing; dansangel
Have ya'll seen this?
46 posted on 11/13/2003 7:02:15 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
"Aren't we fortunate she's on our side?"

YES.

47 posted on 11/13/2003 7:02:59 PM PST by msmagoo
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To: BushCountry
I love that top picture of her with the beer! I've never seen that one before... man, she looks like she'd be a blast to hang with! :)

Qwinn
48 posted on 11/13/2003 7:04:08 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: drlevy88
Ann said at our florida federated republican women's convention in st pete on nov 1, "that the dems have not been so bad they have only been wrong about two things foreign policy,and domestic policy". She was very excited when I told her about how I loved it when they talked about her on the free republic. She gyrated,and gesticulated when she said "OH ARE YOU A FREEPER?". She even autographed my copy of her book slander, and wrote Best wishes to a fellow freeper. Fantastic!!!!!!!
49 posted on 11/13/2003 7:04:13 PM PST by samantha (Don't panic, the adults are in charge)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I'm all for any support we can get for Terri...but even Ann got it wrong

As even the New York Times admits, Michael did not recall Terri's clearly stated desire to be taken off life support until after the million-dollar settlement was paid, most of it going for Terri's medical costs – and the remainder to her husband.

Where is the outrage now??

50 posted on 11/13/2003 7:08:48 PM PST by Krodg
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To: MainFrame65; flattorney
>>[Greer's] legal opinions have been reviewed, but his critical findings of 'fact' NEVER have been.

The last judge to refuse to spare Terri from death-row in October was [federal] U.S. District Judge Richard Lazzara in Tampa. This man was appointed by BILL CLINTON in 1997.

Immediately prior to that, from 1993-1997, this Judge Lazzara worked at the SECOND DISTRICT COURT OF APPEAL in Lakeland, where he was appointed by DEMOCRAT Lawton Chiles.

Now, why does that 2nd DCA sound familiar? Well, THAT'S the court that is trying to illegally rule on the constitutionality of Terri's Law. The case against the new state-law that SHOULD have been (by law) filed at Tallahassee, where the law was legislated, and signed by the Governor. Attorney Felos also made a dozen OTHER errors when filing that challenge.

No matter though, the 2nd DCA well remembers it's friend and recent fellow judge Lazzara, and it would be like a slap in the face of a family member to discredit Lazzara in any way.

The Tampa area courts indicated they intend to do like Lazzara, and USE the existing 'FACTS' (pulled out of Greer's &ss) and judge Jeb Bush's law on 'constitutional' grounds only.

I will see if I can find out how many OTHER 2nd DCA judges are democRAT appointees.

...You can see where they are going with this.

51 posted on 11/13/2003 7:16:42 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: MainFrame65
Well said!
52 posted on 11/13/2003 7:21:54 PM PST by T'wit
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To: Krodg
>>Michael did not recall Terri's 'clearly stated desire'

Ann was being sarcastic I believe
53 posted on 11/13/2003 7:22:57 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: FL_engineer; sweetliberty; cyn
These two posts jolt the heck out of me.

Ann Coulter: A few years ago, Judge Greer found that Helene Ball McGee did not have reasonable cause to believe domestic violence was imminent and denied her an order of protection. Two weeks later, Mrs. McGee was stabbed to death by her husband.

Saundra Duffy: This judge is a serial killer!

I feel a letter directed at Judge Greer coming on...wonder if he is able to learn from past experience.

54 posted on 11/13/2003 7:26:43 PM PST by Republic
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Warmest regards to Anne from an old friend of MSE and NJC. And bless you for getting into this fight for an innocent life.
55 posted on 11/13/2003 7:30:52 PM PST by T'wit
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To: viaveritasvita
bump
56 posted on 11/13/2003 7:34:36 PM PST by viaveritasvita ("When Love takes you in, everything changes.")
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To: pickyourpoison
Good come back, eh? Only Anne.
57 posted on 11/13/2003 7:35:22 PM PST by TaxRelief (Welcome to the only website dedicated to the preservation of a free republic.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat; All
Does anybody have photos of Ann posing at the Free Republic booth at CPAC, getting a Freeper jacket from BobJ, etc.?

Or, if you can post graphics, give me an e-mail address and I'll send you the jpegs.

58 posted on 11/13/2003 7:38:17 PM PST by T'wit
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To: FL_engineer
Yeah, I know that now....I had a discussion with hubby over this issue and took my frustration out on this post. Please forgive me.
59 posted on 11/13/2003 7:43:01 PM PST by Krodg
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To: MainFrame65
TTT for a very well-written post.

Now if Ann could just persuade her friend, Matt Drudge, who said that the people advocating for Terri Schindler's right not to be killed are "insincere". Way to go, Ann. Terri's fight has long needed prominent conservative voices like yours to speak the words she cannot say.
60 posted on 11/13/2003 7:55:03 PM PST by lonevoice (Legal disclaimer: The above is MY OPINION)
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