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THUMBS DOWN ON TRAITOR POLLARD
New York Post ^ | 11/14/03 | AP

Posted on 11/13/2003 11:29:28 PM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:17:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: sarasmom
No, Sarasmom, you have twisted what I said a full 180 degrees. The point is that all Americans should be equal under the law, including Pollard - no one should be treated with special favor or unequal justice.
51 posted on 11/26/2003 6:11:59 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: bvw
My point is once again that all Americans should be equal under the law, including Pollard - no person or ethnic group should be treated with special favor or special unequal justice.
52 posted on 11/26/2003 6:17:21 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Trajan88
You have taken full advantage of the opportunity this forum allows to post your slurs. They display your bias ever so clearly and the fact that you act on that bias.
53 posted on 11/26/2003 6:24:39 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: jettester
You are correct and I stand corrected - In comparing Pollard's sentence with that of others found guilty of espionage, I was not thinking of the case of what I think is the unique instance of execution in the U.S. for this charge - the Jewish Rosenbergs.
54 posted on 11/26/2003 6:32:50 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: hunter112
Capital punishment is illegal in Israel. That's why so many convicted terrorists are in prison in Israel. Only one person has ever been executed in Israel - Adolf Eichman for the crime of genocide, the sole exception to the prohibition of execution.
55 posted on 11/26/2003 6:35:59 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
Different courts in different jurisdictions will come out with different sentences for the same crime. I agree with you on Pollard but that's part of the problem in comparing sentencing.

Real deal on Pollard  --->> http://www.john-loftus.com/pollard_article.asp

http://www.john-loftus.com/pollard.asp

Just to make sure that Pollard was blamed, U.S. intelligence sources, several months later, leaked word to the press of the Kalmanovich connection. "A Russian mole has infiltrated the Mossad and is transmitting highly sensitive American intelligence information to the Russians," was the report flashed around the world by United Press International on Dec. 14, 1987. Citing "American intelligence sources," the UPI announced that the "sensitive intelligence material relayed to Israel by Jonathan Pollard had reached the KGB."

But it was all untrue. Every bit of it. Pollard wasn’t the serial killer. The Jew didn’t do it. It was one of their own WASPs—Aldrich Ames, a drunken senior CIA official who sold the names of America’s agents to the Russians for cash. Pollard was framed for Ames’s crime, while Ames kept on drinking and spying for the Soviets for several more years. In fact, Israeli intelligence later suspected that Ames played a direct role in framing Pollard. But no one in America then knew the truth.

As my source in Naval intelligence explained, the list of our secret agents inside Russia had been kept in a special safe in a special room with a special "blue stripe" clearance needed for access. When I was a lawyer in the Justice Department and would be sent over to the CIA to do research, I was permitted to use only a blue-striped, CIA-issue legal pad for note-taking. Nothing with a blue stripe could leave the building without being scrutinized by CIA security.

But Jonathan Pollard didn’t have "blue stripe" clearance, according to intelligence sources I spoke with. That was the bombshell that would clear him of any possible connection to the deaths of our Russian agents.

Just to make sure, I checked it out, even visiting Pollard in prison to confirm it. Sure enough, there is no way on earth Jonathan Pollard could have entered the file room, let alone the safe where the list was kept.

 

 

56 posted on 11/26/2003 6:49:43 PM PST by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
There's a more than a bit awry about the "due process" Pollard has encountered. The Judges worked from a redacted version of the Constitution.
57 posted on 11/26/2003 6:54:16 PM PST by bvw
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
Treason is not to be had with an ally. And the Rosenbergs did NOT work for the Nazi's. Yet they are dead, dead, dead, and many the Nazi creep lived long and prospered. Including Mr. Buzz Bomb.

Our genuine enemies, as we now "see cleary" are the same as White Russia's perennial enemy: muslim tyrannts and the madrassas of hate.

58 posted on 11/26/2003 7:00:54 PM PST by bvw (The work is long and the day short.)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
Being that I'm American of Italian heritage... I've taken many lumps over the Columbus Day thing, I'm wounded, but still standing.

Thank you... please drive through.

Trajan88

59 posted on 11/26/2003 7:06:13 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Trajan88
Correction... thought I was getting hammered over the Native American/Columbus Day thing.

Back on the J. Pollard thing... how is putting a traitor where he belongs a slur.

You seem to find nothing wrong with a person that pled guilty to a treasonous act? In Pollard's case the punishment fits the crime... the same punishment should be applied to all traitors.

All traitors from the FBI's Hanson to Pollard to the next one... should be thrown in the garbage.

Trajan88

60 posted on 11/26/2003 7:15:39 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
SMCN, thank you for correcting yourself.

I've gone back over the entire thread and only seen hints, but did not see the "elephant in the living room" statement: Are you saying that Pollard got the sentence he did becasue he is Jewish? Please correct me if I have taken things to an extreme, but I would love to hear your POV.
61 posted on 11/26/2003 9:39:06 PM PST by jettester
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To: jettester
Bump
62 posted on 11/28/2003 7:41:44 PM PST by jettester
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