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Master of the Sea (and the French)[NY Times Review of "Master and Commander"]
N.Y. Times online ^ | November 14, 2003 | A. O. SCOTT

Posted on 11/14/2003 6:18:15 AM PST by eddie willers

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Emphasis added was mine, of course

I think the last time I was actually motivated enough to see a movie at a theater rather than waiting to play it on my Home Theater was "Batman".

That long run may be broken by "Master And Commander".

1 posted on 11/14/2003 6:18:16 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: eddie willers
Peter Weir is a genius. Stanley Kubrick without all the quirks. "Witness" and the "Truman Show" just blew me away.
2 posted on 11/14/2003 6:21:35 AM PST by js1138
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To: eddie willers
I don't know. The N.Y. Times?
I've always thought of, and seldom been proved wrong, that for me and my wife, newspaper reviewers are contra-indicators of whether or not we will like a movie.
They liked it, we usually don't. They run it into the ground, we usually hurry out to see it, and like it.
Makes us non-intellectuals, I guess - but we know what we like!
3 posted on 11/14/2003 6:25:25 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: eddie willers
Mr. Mew will be so glad they didn't ruin this. He loves the books.
4 posted on 11/14/2003 6:25:34 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: grobdriver
FWIW, I heard Rolling Stone and Roger Ebert like it, too. Haven't seen any other reviews yet.
5 posted on 11/14/2003 6:26:49 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: eddie willers
among the most thoroughly and proudly conservative movies ever made

< Style="Nelsonian" > Free Republic expects every man to do his duty < /Nelson >

6 posted on 11/14/2003 6:27:18 AM PST by LTCJ
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To: eddie willers

Oy! 'Hoo's up for some fightin'
7 posted on 11/14/2003 6:29:23 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: mewzilla
Roger Ebert like it, too.

Ebert's take:


MASTER & COMMANDER: THE FAR SIDE OF THE WORLD / **** (PG-13)

BY ROGER EBERT

Peter Weir's "Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World" is an exuberant sea adventure told with uncommon intelligence; we're reminded of well-crafted classics before the soulless age of computerized action. Based on the beloved novels of Patrick O'Brian, it re-creates the world of the British navy circa 1805 with such detail and intensity that the sea battles become stages for personality and character. They're not simply swashbuckling -- although they're that, too, with brutal and intimate violence.

The film centers on the spirits of two men, Capt. Jack Aubrey and ship's surgeon Stephen Maturin. Readers of O'Brian's 20 novels know them as friends and opposites -- Aubrey, the realist, the man of action; Maturin, more intellectual and pensive. Each shares some of the other's qualities, and their lifelong debate represents two sides of human nature. There's a moment in "Master and Commander" when Maturin's hopes of collecting rare biological specimens are dashed by Aubrey's determination to chase a French warship, and the tension between them at that moment defines their differences.

Aubrey, captain of HMS Surprise, is played by Russell Crowe as a strong but fair leader of men, a brilliant strategist who is also a student, but not a coddler, of his men. He doesn't go by the books; his ability to think outside the envelope saves the Surprise at one crucial moment and wins a battle at another. Maturin is played by Paul Bettany, who you may recall as Crowe's imaginary roommate in "A Beautiful Mind." He's so cool under pressure that he performs open-skull surgery on the deck of the Surprise (plugging the cranial hole with a coin), and directs the removal of a bullet from his own chest by looking in a mirror. But his passion is biology, and he is onboard primarily because the navy will take him to places where there are beetles and birds unknown to science.

The story takes place almost entirely onboard the Surprise, a smaller vessel outgunned by its quarry, the French warship Acheron. Using an actual ship at sea and sets in the vast tank in Baja California where scenes from "Titanic" were shot, Weir creates a place so palpable we think we could find our own way around. It is a very small ship for such a large ocean, living conditions are grim, some of the men have been shanghaied on board, and one of the junior officers is 13 years old. For risking their lives, the men are rewarded with an extra tot of grog, and feel well-paid. There are scenes at sea, including the rounding of Cape Horn, which are as good or better as any sea journey ever filmed, and the battle scenes are harrowing in their closeness and ferocity; the object is to get close enough in the face of withering cannon fire to board the enemy vessel and hack its crew to death.

There are only two major battle scenes in the movie (unless you count the storms of the cape as a battle with nature). This is not a movie that depends on body counts for its impact, but on the nature of life on board such a ship. Maturin and Aubrey sometimes relax by playing classical duets, the captain on violin, the doctor on cello, and this is not an affectation but a reflection of their well-rounded backgrounds; their arguments are as likely to involve philosophy as strategy.

The reason that O'Brian's readers are so faithful (I am one) is because this friendship provides him with a way to voice and consider the unnatural life of a man at sea: By talking with each other, the two men talk to us about the contest between man's need to dominate, and his desire to reflect.

There is time to get to know several members of the crew. Chief among them is young Lord Blakeney (Max Pirkis), the teenager who is actually put in command of the deck during one battle. Boys this young were often at sea, learning in action (Aubrey was not much older when he served under Nelson), and both older men try to shape him in their images. With Maturin he shares a passion for biology, and begins a journal filled with sketches of birds and beetles they encounter. Under Aubrey he learns to lead men, to think clearly in battle. Both men reveal their characters in teaching the boy, and that is how we best grow to know them.

There is a sense here of the long months at sea between the dangers, of loneliness and privation on "this little wooden world." One subplot involves an officer who comes to be considered bad luck -- a Jonah -- by the men. Another involves the accidental shooting of the surgeon.

There is a visit to the far Galapagos, where Darwin would glimpse the underlying engines of life on earth. These passages are punctuation between the battles, which depend more on strategy than firepower -- as they must, if the Surprise is to stand against the dangerous French ship. Aubrey's charge is to prevent the French from controlling the waters off Brazil, and although the two-ship contest in "Master and Commander" is much scaled down from the fleets at battle in O'Brian's original novel, The Far Side of the World, that simply brings the skills of individual men more into focus.

"Master and Commander" is grand and glorious, and touching in its attention to its characters. Like the work of David Lean, it achieves the epic without losing sight of the human, and to see it is to be reminded of the way great action movies can rouse and exhilarate us, can affirm life instead of simply dramatizing its destruction.

Copyright © Chicago Sun-Times Inc.

8 posted on 11/14/2003 6:30:41 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: AmishDude
LOL!....Good find.
9 posted on 11/14/2003 6:31:51 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: eddie willers
;) Thanks.
10 posted on 11/14/2003 6:34:57 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: All
The story of man at sea, at the helm of a far-traveling ship on a voyage of exploration and war, touches something deep inside of every English-speaking man, hence its popularity. From the sagas of the Vikings to tales of "wooden ships and iron men", the idea of "boldly going where no man has gone before" to seek, to explore, and to do battle is central to our culture. This explains the enduring popularity of the original Star Trek: at its best, the 1966 TV series was simply Master and Commander with warp drive instead of sail. The description "a strong but fair leader of men, a brilliant strategist who is also a student, but not a coddler... [who] doesn't go by the books" is Captain James Kirk to a T; "his ability to think outside the envelope" saves the Enterprise "at one crucial moment and wins a battle at another".

(The question is: why can't Paramount make a Star Trek movie as good as purports to be?)

We need more movies like this — not just for the spectacle of high adventure on the high seas, but for the glorification of the heroic traditions of our seafaring culture. I can't wait to see Master and Commander.

11 posted on 11/14/2003 6:49:18 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: eddie willers
**** Four stars from the SJ Mercury reviewer..

" -- The most authentic naval adventure ever produced, --"
12 posted on 11/14/2003 7:00:22 AM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but FRs flying monkey squad brings out the Rickenbacker in me.)
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" -- The most authentic naval adventure ever produced, --"

Lets hope so. Hollywood hasn't produced a convincing picture involving naval conflict yet, IMO. I'm looking forward to seeing this one.

13 posted on 11/14/2003 8:29:33 AM PST by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: eddie willers
Just got back from watching it. It might very well be the most manly movie of all time. I found it completely riveting. Practically perfect. I can't wait for the DVD.
14 posted on 11/14/2003 10:30:57 PM PST by namsman
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To: eddie willers
Just got back from watching it. It might very well be the most manly movie of all time. I found it completely riveting. Practically perfect. I can't wait for the DVD.
15 posted on 11/14/2003 10:31:14 PM PST by namsman
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To: eddie willers
I took the day off from work to see this movie. I was in line for the 1st show (noon Friday).

Before you waste your money on this movie please note that other than character names and some out of context scenes, the movie bears little relation to the book. I have read and enjoyed the Patrick O'Brian books. He is rolling in his grave.

The movie is beautifully made, but glaring liberties were taken with nautical reality. Guns recoiling and then going off? The Mizzen mast goes overboard and the crew cowers below decks?

Worse is the liberties taken with the characters. Jack Aubrey turning away from a prize that is in sight to take his friend back for treatment? I don't think so. Maturin, in the books is a Papist, Spy, Assassin, Phsyician, Natural Philosopher, Drug User, not an emasculated naturalist wimp.

I predict box office totals under $100M.

Hollywood has taken a story of the British navy and turned it to a screed against military action in favor of the humanist advancement of "knowlege of the natural world".

Read the books, skip this piece of garbage.

cpu

16 posted on 11/15/2003 6:49:03 AM PST by Cpu
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Radio-show host Michael Medved recommends it. And he did note that the violence, including
wounds to the crew can be pretty ugly. My guess is that we get reminded that shrapnel
isn't always metallic...
17 posted on 11/15/2003 7:12:00 AM PST by VOA
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To: Cpu
I am about half way through the first book in the series (Master And Commander) and am finding it a tough slog. The good doctor is, so far, just a papist with a secretive Irish revolutionary past.

I am sure the film makers are looking at 30 years and twenty books and thinking, "We may only be able to make ONE movie....let's put in the elements WE think are good and/or important."

You may be too close to the books to enjoy the movie. ie. seeing only the deviations and pronouncing them flaws. I love both Stanley Kubrik and Stephen King but hated "The Shining" because it deviated from the book so much. I thought much the same way about "Silence Of The Lambs" and it went on to win the Best Picture Oscar.

But then take "Starship Troopers".

Freepers who have read the book, by and large, hated the movie. I, on the other hand, had NOT read the book and thought the movie was a gas.

18 posted on 11/15/2003 7:41:47 AM PST by eddie willers
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>>I am about half way through the first book in the series >>(Master And Commander) and am finding it a tough slog.

O'Brian wrote the first few for himself and didn't expect that the books had any appeal to the public. They sold very few copies until Norton published them in the US. The third book (HMS Surprise?? I think) is better. They get better as O'Brian goes along. (If you have trouble staying awake the good doctor would reccomend that you chew a ball of coca leaf and lime).

>>The good doctor is, so far, just a papist with a >>secretive Irish revolutionary past.

A tightly sealed package is that one.

>I am sure the film makers are looking at 30 years and >twenty books and thinking, "We may only be able to make >ONE movie....let's put in the elements WE think are good >and/or important."

The Lord of the Rings movies stayed true to the intent of the books. This movie flipped O'Brian's intent over a barrel and....

>>You may be too close to the books to enjoy the movie.

You are probably correct. But this movie shares little with the book.

My primary objection is the perversion of O'Brian's intent.

Read the books skip the movie.

cpu
19 posted on 11/15/2003 8:30:42 AM PST by Cpu
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I will finish "Master And Commander" to get a good baseline and then take your advice and skip to where Aubrey gets command of HMS Surprise.

Read the books skip the movie.

The question is not, "Will I see the movie?" (I will), but go to the theater for the first time in 13 years (Batman Returns) or wait for the DVD.

(I amazed myself by avoiding reading any spoilers about "The Sixth Sense" for a year and thus allowing my DVD viewing of the movie to be as fresh and surprising as it would have been had I gone to it's theatrical premiere)

20 posted on 11/15/2003 8:49:16 AM PST by eddie willers
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