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INVITATION TO A STONING [Rushdoony ties to D. James Kennedy - should Moore be in this list?]
Reason Online ^ | November, 1998 | Walter Olson

Posted on 11/14/2003 6:47:13 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine

For connoisseurs of surrealism on the American right, it's hard to beat an exchange that appeared about a decade ago in the Heritage Foundation magazine Policy Review. It started when two associates of the Rev. Jerry Falwell wrote an article which criticized Christian Reconstructionism, the influential movement led by theologian Rousas John (R.J.) Rushdoony, for advocating positions that even they as committed fundamentalists found "scary." Among Reconstructionism's highlights, the article cited support for laws "mandating the death penalty for homosexuals and drunkards." The Rev. Rushdoony fired off a letter to the editor complaining that the article had got his followers' views all wrong: They didn't intend to put drunkards to death.

Ah, yes, accuracy does count. In a world run by Rushdoony followers, sots would escape capital punishment--which would make them happy exceptions indeed. Those who would face execution include not only gays but a very long list of others: blasphemers, heretics, apostate Christians, people who cursed or struck their parents, females guilty of "unchastity before marriage," "incorrigible" juvenile delinquents, adulterers, and (probably) telephone psychics. And that's to say nothing of murderers and those guilty of raping married women or "betrothed virgins." Adulterers, among others, might meet their doom by being publicly stoned--a rather abrupt way for the Clinton presidency to end.

Mainstream outlets like the Los Angeles Times and The Washington Post are finally starting to take note of the influence Rushdoony and his followers have exerted for years in American conservative circles. But a second part of the story, of particular interest to readers of this magazine, is the degree to which Reconstructionists have gained prominence in libertarian causes, ranging from hard-money economics to the defense of home schooling. "Christian economist" Gary North, Rushdoony's son-in-law and star polemicist of the Reconstructionist movement, is widely cited as a spokesman for free markets, if not exactly free minds; he even served for a brief time on the House staff of Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), the Libertarian Party presidential nominee in 1988, when Paul was a member of Congress in the '70s. For his part, Rushdoony has blandly described himself to the press as a critic of "statism" and even as a "Christian libertarian." Say what?

An outgrowth of Calvinism, modern
Reconstructionism can be traced to Rushdoony's 1973 magnum opus, Institutes of Biblical Law. (Many leading Reconstructionists emerged from conservative Presbyterianism, but as with so much of today's religious ferment, the movement cuts across denominational lines.) Not one to pursue a high public profile, Rushdoony has set up his Chalcedon Institute in off-the-beaten-path Vallecito, California, while North runs his Institute for Christian Economics out of Tyler, Texas.

As a "post-millennialist" school of thought, Reconstructionism holds that believers should work toward achieving God's kingdom on earth in the here and now, rather than expect its advent only after a second coming of Christ. Some are in a bit of a hurry about it, too. "World conquest," proclaims George Grant, in what by Reconstructionist standards is not an especially breathless formulation. "It is dominion we are after. Not just a voice... not just influence...not just equal time. It is dominion we are after."

Well, OK, it's easy to laugh. Yet grandiosity does sometimes get results, especially when combined with an all-out conviction that one is historically predestined to win (the Communist Party in the '30s comes to mind). Reconstructionism has a record of turning out hugely prolific writers, tireless organizers who stay at meetings until the last chair is folded up, and driven activists willing to undergo arrest (Reconstructionist Randall Terry founded Operation Rescue, the lawbreaking anti-abortion campaign) to make their point.

Politically, Reconstructionists have been active both in the GOP and in the splinter U.S. Taxpayers Party; but their greater influence, as they themselves would doubtless agree, has been felt in the sphere of ideas, in helping change the terms of discourse on the traditionalist right. One of their effects has been to allow everyone else to feel moderate. To wit: Almost any anti-abortion stance seems nuanced when compared with Gary North's advocacy of public execution not just for women who undergo abortions but for those who advised them to do so. And with the Rushdoony faction proposing the actual judicial murder of gays, fewer blink at the position of a Gary Bauer or a Janet Folger, who support laws exposing them to mere imprisonment.

Among other ideas Reconstructionists have helped popularize is that state neutrality on the subject of religion is meaningless. Any legal order is bound to "establish" one religious order or another, the argument runs, and the only question is whose. Put the question that way, and watch your polemical troubles disappear. If we're getting a religious establishment anyway, why not mine?

"The Christian goal for the world," Recon theologian David Chilton has explained, is "the universal development of Biblical theocratic republics." Scripturally based law would be enforced by the state with a stern rod in these republics. And not just any scriptural law, either, but a hardline-originalist version of Old Testament law--the point at which even most fundamentalists agree things start to get "scary." American evangelicals have tended to hold that the bloodthirsty pre-Talmudic Mosaic code, with its quick resort to capital punishment, its flogging and stoning and countenancing of slavery, was mostly if not entirely superseded by the milder precepts of the New Testament (the "dispensationalist" view, as it's called). Not so, say the Reconstructionists. They reckon only a relative few dietary and ritualistic observances were overthrown.

So when Exodus 21:15-17 prescribes that cursing or striking a parent is to be punished by execution, that's fine with Gary North. "When people curse their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime," he writes. "The integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat of death." Likewise with blasphemy, dealt with summarily in Leviticus 24:16: "And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him."

Reconstructionists provide the most enthusiastic constituency for stoning since the Taliban seized Kabul. "Why stoning?" asks North. "There are many reasons. First, the implements of execution are available to everyone at virtually no cost." Thrift and ubiquity aside, "executions are community projects--not with spectators who watch a professional executioner do `his' duty, but rather with actual participants." You might even say that like square dances or quilting bees, they represent the kind of hands-on neighborliness so often missed in this impersonal era. "That modern Christians never consider the possibility of the reintroduction of stoning for capital crimes," North continues, "indicates how thoroughly humanistic concepts of punishment have influenced the thinking of Christians." And he may be right about that last point, you know.

The Recons are keenly aware of the P.R. difficulties such views pose as they become more widely known. Brian Abshire writes in the January Chalcedon Report, the official magazine of Rushdoony's institute, that the "judicial sanctions" are "at the root" of the antipathy most evangelicals still show towards Reconstruction. Indeed, as the press spotlight has intensified, prominent religious conservatives have edged away. For a while the Coalition on Revival (COR), an umbrella group set up to "bring America back to its biblical foundations" by identifying common ground among Christian right activists of differing theological backgrounds, allowed leading Reconstructionists to chum around with such figures as televangelist D. James Kennedy (whose Coral Ridge Ministries also employed militant Reconstructionist George Grant as a vice president) and National Association of Evangelicals lobbyist Robert Dugan.

In recent years, however, the COR has lost many of its best-known members; former Virginia lieutenant governor candidate Mike Farris, for example, told The Washington Post that he left the group because "it started heading to a theocracy...and I don't believe in a theocracy." John Whitehead, a Rushdoony protégé who, with Chalcedon assistance, launched the Rutherford Institute to pursue religious litigation, has moved with some vigor to disavow his old mentor's views.

Prominent California philanthropist Howard F. Ahmanson Jr., who has given Rushdoony's operations more than $700,000 over the years, may also be loosening his ties. According to the June 30, 1996, Orange County Register, Ahmanson has departed the Chalcedon board and says he "does not embrace all of Rushdoony's teachings." An heir of the Home Savings bank fortune, Ahmanson has also been an important donor to numerous
other groups, including the Claremont Institute, the Seattle-based Discovery Institute and--just to show how complicated life gets--the Reason Foundation, the publisher of this magazine (for projects not associated with its publication).

The continuing, extensive Reconstructionist presence in fields like the home schooling movement poses for libertarians an obvious question: How serious do differences have to become before it becomes inappropriate to overlook them in an otherwise good cause? The printed program of last year's Separation of School & State Alliance convention constituted an odd ideological mix in which certified good guys such as Sheldon Richman, Jim Bovard, and Don Boudreaux alternated with Chalcedon stalwarts like Samuel Blumenfeld, Howard Phillips, and Rushdoony himself.

Lest such relations become unduly frictionless, here's a clip-and-save sampler of Reconstructionist quotes to keep on hand:

On the link between reason and liberty: "Reason itself is not an objective `given' but is itself a divinely created instrument employed by the unregenerate to further their attack on God." The "appeal to reason as final arbiter" must be rejected; "if man is permitted autonomy in one sphere he will soon claim autonomy in all spheres....We therefore deny every expression of human autonomy--liberal, conservative or libertarian." Thus affirmed Andrew Sandlin, in the January Chalcedon Report.

Intellectual liberty (other religions department): Hindus, Muslims, and the like would still be free to practice their rites "in the privacy of your own home....But you would not be allowed to proselytize and undermine the order of the state....every civil order protects its foundations," wrote the late Recon theologian Greg Bahnsen. Bahnsen added that the interdiction applies to "someone [who] comes and proselytizes for another god or another final authority (and by the way, that god may be man)."

Intellectual liberty (where secularists fit in department): "All sides of the humanistic spectrum are now, in principle, demonic; communists and conservatives, anarchists and socialists, fascists and republicans," explains Rushdoony. "When someone tries to undermine the commitment to Jehovah which is fundamental to the civil order of a godly state--then that person needs to be restrained by the magistrate...those who will not acknowledge Jehovah as the ultimate authority behind the civil law code which the magistrate is enforcing would be punished and repressed," wrote Bahnsen.

On ultimate goals: "So let us be blunt about it," says Gary North. "We must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God."

Contributing Editor Walter Olson is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute and author of The Excuse Factory: How Employment Law Is Paralyzing the American Workplace (The Free Press).

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To: wimpycat
The Lottery
101 posted on 11/16/2003 4:48:45 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: nunya bidness
Seems that the bigots on the Catholic side and the ones on Protestant side just cannot get a grip of themselves when it comes to the tempation of flame wars against one another. Every thread like this always produces nothing but the same old rancor. Any born again Christian who has the Holy Spirit as the men who are being targeted here would certainly not condone the stoning of anyone for any reason. IF this is the case, which I highly doubt, then these men are going through all the motions of a proclaiming Christianity in every area of their lives for nothing.
102 posted on 11/16/2003 10:24:01 AM PST by hope
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
You want to talk about scary, CP, try this one.......

children stoned.....

103 posted on 11/16/2003 11:03:59 AM PST by SeaDragon
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
There is another great short story thats creepier than hell about the onset of psychosis in a highschool kid. Check out "Silent Snow, Secret Snow" by Conrad Aiken - its written in first person.

Creep - and heartbreaking. It's a beautifully written story. I first read it many years ago in an anthology that I think was entitled, Tales of Terror and the Supernatural. Years later on Night Gallery, it received a nice interpretation with Orson Welles as narrator.

104 posted on 11/16/2003 2:37:35 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
Creep=creepy

Duh

105 posted on 11/16/2003 2:39:47 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: hope
IF this is the case, which I highly doubt, then these men are going through all the motions of a proclaiming Christianity in every area of their lives for nothing.

You nailed it. Regards.

106 posted on 11/16/2003 10:00:41 PM PST by nunya bidness (Although my dreams may be tattered, my will, my heart battered, I know you will hear my cry)
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To: hope; Robert_Paulson2; Catspaw; SeaDragon; WackyKat; Poohbah
Any born again Christian who has the Holy Spirit as the men who are being targeted here would certainly not condone the stoning of anyone for any reason. IF this is the case, which I highly doubt, then these men are going through all the motions of a proclaiming Christianity in every area of their lives for nothing.

I pasted this article at Post #5 above. This is from the flagship, the Chalcedon Foundation, and isn't paraphrased by any outsider with a negative agenda - its what they believe. Also, take a look at their front page, and enjoy the doomcrying, the loaded "poll", the general note of hysteria and misery.

These guys do believe that they have a spiritual mandate to govern, and if what they've done to the GOP apparatus in California is any precurser (by stealthily placing people and trashing the party from within), we can expect more of the same from them.

107 posted on 11/17/2003 4:35:32 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: All
Apologies for failing to close tags.
108 posted on 11/17/2003 4:36:10 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Chancellor Palpatine

I wondered where Moore's lawyers got the language for one of their motions.  This is almost word for word, if not exactly word for word:

 

He probably does not realize it, but Attorney General Pryor shares the jurisprudence of the German judges put on trial at Nuremberg in the case of U. S. v. Alstoetter, a trial made famous in the Hollywood production Judgment at Nuremberg. The judges in Germany swore an oath similar to the one taken by the German military: “I swear by God this sacred oath, that I will render unconditional obedience to Adolf Hitler, the Fuehrer of the German Reich and people, Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces …” The German judges defended their actions in enforcing unjust “laws” and of convicting and even sentencing men and women to death who were innocent of wrongdoing or guilty of only minor wrongs. The German judges argued that they were simply following the law of obeying orders of higher officials. Their actions, they argued, were therefore justified. This is the position that Attorney General Pryor has taken with respect to Roe v. Wade. He has promised to withhold the protection of law from thousands of innocent unborn children until the “law” changes. He doesn’t seem to see that Roe v. Wade is an act of lawlessness. It is not law. Compare that to the situation that the Alstoetter court noted existed in Germany: “[T]he dagger of the assassin was concealed beneath the robe of the jurist.”

 
http://www.chalcedon.edu/articles/0310/031001jtuomala.shtml

The brief goes so far as to compare Pryor's legal reasoning with that of Nazi judges tried at Nuremberg following World War II. Their defense was essentially that they followed orders of the Third Reich when they ordered the executions of innocents and petty criminals.

Moore's attorneys juxtapose Pryor's opposition to the U.S. Supreme Court decision Roe v. Wade, which legalized abortion, with his public statements before Congress earlier this year that he would enforce the decision if confirmed as a federal judge.

"He probably does not realize it, but Attorney General Pryor shares the jurisprudence of the German judges put on trial at Nuremberg," the chief justice's attorneys wrote in their brief. "... The judges in Germany swore an oath similar to the one taken by the German military" and "... argued that they were simply following the law of obeying orders of higher officials. This is the position (Pryor) has taken with respect to Roe v. Wade."

http://www.al.com/search/index.ssf?/base/news/1068632181289480.xml?mobileregister?nmet

 

109 posted on 11/17/2003 5:11:06 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: E Rocc
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110 posted on 11/17/2003 7:56:49 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: onyx
Like you, I am Catholic and I've been told I am not a Christian by three FReeper Calvinists' I "could" name.
Though myself an agnostic, half my family is Catholic, to the point of having included a cardinal a few years back. Therefore, my anti-Catholic-bigot detectors are pretty strong. I don't doubt for a second that Reconstructionists, if pressed, don't consider Catholics to be Christians. Indeed they would likely call them "idolators"...something else they have in common with fundamentalist Moslems.

-Eric

111 posted on 11/17/2003 8:22:41 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: E Rocc
Thnak you, Eric, for the wealth of information and for taking the time to write such a thoughtful response. I am both grateful and appreciative.

Over the years I have come to laugh at the assertion, but it is nonetheless disgusting. Imagine, Saint Peter's Church is not Christian?!
112 posted on 11/17/2003 8:31:18 AM PST by onyx
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To: CobaltBlue
I figure, woe to those who mess with Jesus or his teachings to advance their selfish political agendas.

One would think so, especially after reading the Gospels.

The best I can tell, Christianity never sought to enforce its creed among the unwilling before the conversion of Constantine. So Reconstructionists can only trace their Christian roots to him. Before him their historical path leads not to Jesus of Nazareth and his God, but to Caesar and Zeus.

-Eric

113 posted on 11/17/2003 8:33:15 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: onyx
Over the years I have come to laugh at the assertion, but it is nonetheless disgusting. Imagine, Saint Peter's Church is not Christian?!
My favorites are the people who claim Thomas Jefferson was a Christian (despite his disbelief in Christ's divinity) but would deny Roman Catholics the same status. Of course, if Jefferson and Franklin were not "Christians", then the entire "Christian Nation" premise falls faceward.

In the US at least, Jews and Catholics do not seem inclined to prosletyze, let alone legislate their creed (its a lot easier to buy pork in a Jewish neighborhood or a burger on a Friday during Lent in a Catholic one that alcohol in certain Baptist areas). I'd consider that a sign of personal religious security. :)

-Eric

114 posted on 11/17/2003 8:46:09 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: E Rocc
Believe me, there is an entirely different version of history that these guys pimp.
115 posted on 11/17/2003 10:15:26 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: E Rocc; Chancellor Palpatine
It's wonderful to read a sane and thoughtful post. Thanks again, Eric.

CP: ditto your remark. LOL!
116 posted on 11/17/2003 10:19:42 AM PST by onyx
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To: E Rocc
The best I can tell, Christianity never sought to enforce its creed among the unwilling before the conversion of Constantine.

I would agree with this, but perhaps others with better historical knowledge can point to prior instances of Christians trying to dominate others via the use of force.

117 posted on 11/17/2003 10:52:22 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: E Rocc
Speaking of religious tolerance, I've been having a craving for Middle Eastern cooking, and having lunch at various Middle Eastern restaurants for the past week or so, despite the fact that it's Ramadan. I like eating in Middle Eastern restaurants during Ramadan, they are almost completely uncrowded, since Muslims can't eat until sunset.

So, I agree, it's a lot easier to get a falafel sandwich during Ramadan than buy liquor on Sunday. In DC, you can't even buy beer at a grocery store on Sunday - I guess it's the black Baptist influence.
118 posted on 11/17/2003 10:57:03 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: CobaltBlue
Speaking of religious tolerance, I've been having a craving for Middle Eastern cooking, and having lunch at various Middle Eastern restaurants for the past week or so, despite the fact that it's Ramadan. I like eating in Middle Eastern restaurants during Ramadan, they are almost completely uncrowded, since Muslims can't eat until sunset.

So, I agree, it's a lot easier to get a falafel sandwich during Ramadan than buy liquor on Sunday. In DC, you can't even buy beer at a grocery store on Sunday - I guess it's the black Baptist influence.

Or it could be a misguided "anti-crime" initiative. :)

Seriously, your point about the Muslim restaurants supports something I've been saying since September 11th. The huge majority of American Muslims are here to get away from the fundamentalists, not spread their influence. They're our allies against those people and its [nice word]imprudent [/niceword] for some to claim otherwise.

-Eric

119 posted on 11/17/2003 12:02:16 PM PST by E Rocc
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To: CobaltBlue
Regrettably, I make great tabooli, but it is now on the list of foods that wake me up at 3 AM and make me miserable an entire day afterward, as I found out this weekend.

*sigh*

I think I can still do grape leaves, but am now worried about the wheat in kibbee.

120 posted on 11/17/2003 12:32:52 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
I did your scut work for you, as I was positive that I was right and I was. LOL

In " PRIVATE DEMONS ". by Judy Oppenheimer, the only bio of Shirley Jackson, that I know of, it says that Shirley, once involved with her future husband, at Syracuse, joined the YCL, though she was actually apolitical , to impress Larry, whom she later married. She went to one or two meeting, never spoke, didn't listen much, and did absolutley NOTHING, zero, zilch, bupkiss, for/with the Communists then, or ever. Later on in life, neither she nor Larry were in any way involved with any Commie movment/organization. It was just a passing bit of rebellion. Her parents, FWIW, were VERY Conservative Republicans.

" THE LOTTERY " was NOT in any way, shape, manner, nor form about Commies. Shirely, herself, said it was about the small Vermont town she and Larry and the kids lived in and anti-Semitism , which was rife there and in most other places in this country back then.

I first read " THE LOTTERY ", when I was about 7 years old and became an avid fan and reader of her works from there on out. :-)

121 posted on 11/17/2003 9:05:22 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
My take on "The Lottery" is that it was about the tendency of narrow-minded bigots to try to control everybody else's life and and the tendency of everybody else to go along with them out of weakness and inertia, and then when it's their turn to be persecuted, they don't have anybody to help them.



122 posted on 11/18/2003 7:06:25 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: Poohbah
Kennedy has extremely close ties to these folks, and vice versa. You can whine about "guilt by association" all you want, but they find each other's company to be congenial, and dominionists are not wont to give the title "Christian" to those who disagree with their rantings.

You consider yourself a Freeper. I consider myself a Freeper. But I don't consider our doctrines the same, or even similar. Just because people associate with each other at one level, doesn't mean that they are guilty of each other's sins.

Why so eager to denounce Christians in the limelight like Kennedy?

123 posted on 11/18/2003 7:23:03 AM PST by Theo
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To: nopardons
Since you qualify for the ultimate ignoramous, I don't feel the need to qualify the fact that there is nothing wrong in what I posted and my replies are based on fact not hysterical outbursts. It's not my fault that reality doesn't fit your twisted worldview.
124 posted on 12/02/2003 5:45:43 PM PST by nmh
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To: nmh
tsk, tsk, tsk

There's no need, whatsoever, for the spurious name calling, when one is " correct "; which you seldom, if ever are, dear. That you'd rather engage in juvenile pettiness, imbued with delusions of competence,is proof enough, that you've failed miserably in attempting a cogent debate.

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahaha

125 posted on 12/02/2003 9:12:43 PM PST by nopardons
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To: onyx

Catholicism, while today officially revising their position, by maintaining the decisions of the Council of Trent, have claimed classical Protestants are not Christians for 450 years.


126 posted on 08/24/2004 2:24:25 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns

Hello.
Do I know you?


127 posted on 08/24/2004 2:40:01 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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