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Seven million died in the 'forgotten' holocaust
Toronto Sun ^ | 11/16/03 | ERIC MARGOLIS

Posted on 11/16/2003 10:05:24 AM PST by freedom44

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To: Lazamataz
"Ed Assner is completely, merrily, mad."

I wish that was true.
Unfortunately, I'm afraid he's sane and really convinced
that the U.S. IS the Great Satan, and Stalin was a great guy, as is Castro.
21 posted on 11/16/2003 10:34:57 AM PST by nuconvert
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To: Lazamataz
I like that quote of Anser's. Maybe he can set the record straight if this movie is ever made that the man murdered his wife, had Ho Chi Minh ghost write some of his most important works.

That's two interesting facts regarding this man. I think what? Murdered 20 million, enabled Hitler to start WW II, and gleefully sold out "comrades" from Mao from time to time for political expeidence and cash.

He also was a facsist in every sense of the word. That "socialism in one country" business of the 1930s was lifted from the Italians.

And yet the left claims this guy and his politcs as their own. Amazing.

Oh, and he killed more Jews than Hitler. Would have exterminated them (Doctor's Plot) but fortunately had a stroke and croaked.

Busting rocks in Hell with his soul brother Dolf.
22 posted on 11/16/2003 10:35:32 AM PST by lavrenti ("Tell your momma and your poppa, sometimes good guys don't wear white." The Standells)
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To: Petronski
Thanks for the book
23 posted on 11/16/2003 10:37:29 AM PST by nuconvert
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To: freedom44
Bump for later referencing. This looks like a good days worth of reading material from the library, and a worthy subject to read. I was unaware of it until now as well.
24 posted on 11/16/2003 10:38:18 AM PST by KineticKitty (We have enough youth. How about a fountain of SMART?)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Trust me, if the Left ever takes control, this is what you'll get.

Ever since the Jacobins this is the kind of crap they pull.
25 posted on 11/16/2003 10:38:39 AM PST by lavrenti ("Tell your momma and your poppa, sometimes good guys don't wear white." The Standells)
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To: Petronski
I have it. Given that history, why would anyone be surprised many Ukrainians welcomed the Germans as liberators and some even joined to wehrmacht and SS.
26 posted on 11/16/2003 10:40:20 AM PST by 1066AD
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To: lavrenti
Preaching to the choir, man. I'm pretty sure I'm on the list of "Those who will be put up against the wall when the revolution comes" - if they can catch me, that is...
27 posted on 11/16/2003 10:40:37 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I would be considered quite a catch in some circles... Crop Circles...)
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To: freedom44
Kaganovitch, the "wolf" of the Kremlin.
28 posted on 11/16/2003 10:41:03 AM PST by tet68 ( Patrick Henry ......."Who fears the wrath of cowards?")
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Hmm, we got a few here who still needs to hear the song.
29 posted on 11/16/2003 10:42:41 AM PST by lavrenti ("Tell your momma and your poppa, sometimes good guys don't wear white." The Standells)
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To: freedom44
The British-U.S. alliance with Stalin made them his partners in crime. Roosevelt and Churchill helped preserve history's most murderous regime, to which they handed over half of Europe in 1945.

Neville Chamberlain is widely criticized for his appeasement of Hitler and the resultant rise of Nazi Germany. Roosevelt & Chuchill's appeasements of Stalin allowed the USSR to become a superpower when it should have been swept into the dustbin of history shortly after WWII. Evil dictators thrive when good nations turn a blind eye to their atrocities.

The progressive left has a problem condemning the iron hand of socialism because they want the power of the state to be viewed as a good thing and any curbs on that power as obstructions to their utopian dreams. Communism and Fascism have proven that one party's utopia is the holocaust of the masses.

30 posted on 11/16/2003 10:43:09 AM PST by eggman (Social Insecurity - Who will provide for the government when the government provides for all of us?)
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To: lavrenti
True enough... I recommend the book in post 12 to everyone and anyone. A very "enlightening" read...
31 posted on 11/16/2003 10:43:16 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (I would be considered quite a catch in some circles... Crop Circles...)
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To: 1066AD
Had it not be for the racial policies of the Nazis, Hitler may have won the war.

The very fact the Germans were welcomed initially as liberators by practically everyone in that jailhouse of nations was an indicator of how evil the Stalinst regime was.
32 posted on 11/16/2003 10:46:33 AM PST by lavrenti ("Tell your momma and your poppa, sometimes good guys don't wear white." The Standells)
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To: freedom44
BUMP
33 posted on 11/16/2003 10:47:25 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: eggman
Churchill was well aware of Stalin. Had no choice.

You should read about his complicated dealings with Spain during the war; they are indicative of the conflicts with his government--and himself.

As for Roosevelt? Two words: Alger Hiss.
34 posted on 11/16/2003 10:48:16 AM PST by lavrenti ("Tell your momma and your poppa, sometimes good guys don't wear white." The Standells)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
The Secret World of American Communism may say a thing or two about what our citizens did.
35 posted on 11/16/2003 10:51:53 AM PST by lavrenti ("Tell your momma and your poppa, sometimes good guys don't wear white." The Standells)
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To: freedom44
Hollywood's Missing Movies. CBS probably isn't interested either.
36 posted on 11/16/2003 10:56:56 AM PST by P.O.E.
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To: lavrenti
I wish you could speak to the left in the universities.The youth may listen.The professors still clinging to the 60s will never change.Progressive is the fashionable word for socialism/communism now.
37 posted on 11/16/2003 10:58:40 AM PST by MEG33
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To: freedom44; Andy from Beaverton; Kozak; Nubbytwanger; RightOnline; Essie; Paul Atreides; karen999; ..
This is a fascinating subject and one that is, quite intentionally, minimized.

On September 24, 1986, William F. Buckley, Jr's FIRING LINE (a PBS program) ran Robert Conquest's HARVEST OF DESPAIR, a 1983 television documentary. The program was broadcast on FIRING LINE because, according to New York Public Broadcasting affiliate WNET's director of public affairs broadcasting, Peter Foges, it was "technically deficient," of "dubious quality" and failed to meet PBS's "production standards" and therefore WNET refused to run it. Only when Buckley devoted his program to it did it get an airing in New York. Difficulty in getting Public Broadcasting air time was also experienced, for the same reasons, throughout the US.

The substandard production values, the film was produced in Canada with assistance from Canada's national film board, became harder and harder to allege after the film was nominated for a 1986 Academy Award and began to win first place prizes from various international forums.

Those of us who saw the film can attest to it's excellence.

38 posted on 11/16/2003 11:03:29 AM PST by caltrop
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To: MEG33
I would not be allowed, to be honest.

Speaking as a former university-based leftist, of course.
39 posted on 11/16/2003 11:03:55 AM PST by lavrenti ("Tell your momma and your poppa, sometimes good guys don't wear white." The Standells)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
"Witness" by Whittaker Chambers is another book to read.You can google and find"Forward in the form of a letter to my children".He exposed Alger Hiss and was never believed by the elites, who adored Hiss.The infiltration of our government by the Communists during and after WW2 is frightening.
40 posted on 11/16/2003 11:08:08 AM PST by MEG33
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