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Calif. Democrats alarmed over energy bill's impact on state
Sac Bee ^ | 11/16/03 | Erica Werner - AP

Posted on 11/16/2003 7:45:30 PM PST by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/12/2004 6:01:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Republican-drafted federal energy bill has raised the ire of California's Democratic legislators, who contend it jeopardizes the environment, subsidizes Midwestern states and does little to prevent the type of misconduct that fueled the state's energy crisis.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: alarmedover; calgov2002; calif; catrans; democrats; energy; energybill; environment; impact

1 posted on 11/16/2003 7:45:31 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: *calgov2002
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2 posted on 11/16/2003 7:46:59 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .....)
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To: NormsRevenge; Carry_Okie; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; christie; ...
The usuals plus one.
3 posted on 11/16/2003 7:47:43 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: NormsRevenge
"It sounds like those who poisoned our water with MTBE will get off scot-free," Boxer said in a statement.

Good God, something she and I agree on. Did hell freeze today?

4 posted on 11/16/2003 7:50:08 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Republican-drafted federal energy bill has raised the ire of California's Democratic legislators, who contend it jeopardizes the environment, subsidizes Midwestern states and does little to prevent the type of misconduct that fueled the state's energy crisis.

Funny...the Democrats weren't alarmed at all when Davis was running things and causing this energy crisis.

5 posted on 11/16/2003 7:54:50 PM PST by Prime Choice (This Post is Rated "Conservative": May Be Too Intense for Liberal Viewers.)
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To: NormsRevenge
It could lead to weakening of our environment in California,

It's exactly that kind of thinking that got them into so much trouble in the first place. They want more???

6 posted on 11/16/2003 7:55:03 PM PST by concerned about politics ( So it is. Amen.)
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To: farmfriend
It was the state of CA that brought us that MTBE and their insistance that the tanks be purged between each change for cold weather and hot weather mixtures that caused shortages. CA could have adopted ethanol instead of MTBE and didn't; and we would have avoided the contamination if they had. Blame the politicians at least at the same level as the lobbiests who pushed MTBE. Never did understand how lowering mileage, but only burning a little cleaner lowered the total polution level. New cars did that and the car buying craze certainly helped.
7 posted on 11/16/2003 8:00:26 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence applies in all cases)
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To: NormsRevenge
If the Californians don't think the federal bill is tough enough, then why don't the dopes pass their own bill?
8 posted on 11/16/2003 8:03:17 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: NormsRevenge
""It sounds like those who poisoned our water with MTBE will get off scot-free," Boxer said in a statement."

Gee, Barbara.

You mean your friends from the EPA during the Clinton administration that suppressed data showing the hazards of the additive while demanding its implementation?
9 posted on 11/16/2003 8:03:18 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (DEFUND NPR & PBS - THE AMERICAN PRAVDA)
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To: farmfriend
"It sounds like those who poisoned our water with MTBE will get off scot-free," Boxer said in a statement".

I would have thought she would have supported this as it was her rat friends in Sacramento that origionaly required it to be added to our states gasoline.

10 posted on 11/16/2003 8:05:13 PM PST by Not now, Not ever! (10101100 (Or words to that effect!))
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To: farmfriend
LOL, it was scumbag simpletons like Boxer who wanted MTBE in gasoline to begin with, to make the gas "burn cleaner". Oil companies were compelled to start using the crap by the EPA and now when we find out that the tradeoff for "cleaner air" is "dirtier water", the scumbag lawyers want to go after those deep, deep pockets.

I agree with the provision that prevents lawsuits against the oil companies for adding MTBE to their gasoline. In the end, it would only be us consumers (as usual) who feather the nests of the scumbag lawyers.
11 posted on 11/16/2003 8:08:14 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: pacpam
"Never did understand how lowering mileage, but only burning a little cleaner lowered the total polution level."

I hated MTBE when I lived in Denver - it screwed up the oxygen sensor and caused the fuel injection system to deliver an overly rich mixture which cut my fuel milage from a normal 24 - 26 down to 17 - 19. I suspect that my car actually created more pollution when using MTBE.
12 posted on 11/16/2003 8:09:43 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: NormsRevenge
"California Democrats also contend the energy bill would crack open the door to offshore drilling, in part by making it harder for the state to control activities off its shoreline"

Offshor drilling should have never been stopped.

The only reason that you can go on a beach in So. Cal. today without coming home covered with tar is the drilling and pumping that was done in the Channel Islands (off
Santa Barbara), Long Beach, and Seal Beach.

Until that was done there was a natural oil slick and tar on all the beaches from north of Santa Barbara to Mexico.

As a 5th generation So. Californian i'm for drilling for oil anywhere it exists!
13 posted on 11/16/2003 8:15:17 PM PST by dalereed (,)
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To: Ben Hecks
Every time the moronic Boxer angers you, just remember that her daughter was impregnated and divorced by a brother of Hillary! Rodham...

Talk about getting screwed by the Clintons.....
You've just gotta feel bad for her.....</sarcasm>

Semper Fi
14 posted on 11/16/2003 8:16:35 PM PST by river rat (War works......It brings Peace... Give war a chance to destroy Jihadists...)
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To: farmfriend
Oh she finally jumped on the belated bandwagon after all the dang damage was done. (barf!) She also screamed that Lake Shasta and the upper Sacramento river were eternally poisoned after that train tipped over a few years ago.

What a total, unmitigated DING-BAT!!!

15 posted on 11/16/2003 8:39:44 PM PST by SierraWasp (Rural America has taxation without adequate representation!!! That's why there's Rural Cleansing!!!)
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To: farmfriend
It sounds like those who poisoned our water with MTBE will get off scot-free," Boxer said in a statement.

Quick, somebody do a search. Given that the Sierra Club supported MTBE Boxer absolutely HAD to have supported its use at one time and, of course, said so vociferously.

16 posted on 11/16/2003 8:40:41 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex to be managed by central planning.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I don't know how he got out but I can't wait for Waxman to slither back into the La Brea Tar Pits...
17 posted on 11/16/2003 8:56:29 PM PST by tubebender (FReeRepublic...How bad have you got it...)
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To: Prime Choice
They aren't alarmed enough to go for nuclear power or remove the most onerous enviro regs though are they?
18 posted on 11/16/2003 8:58:53 PM PST by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: Carry_Okie
Boxer's reputation for crass stupidity continues to grow.
Her stupidity is stunning.

And what's that say for the Californians who elect and reelect her?
Whew.....
19 posted on 11/16/2003 9:15:33 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Let's Roll
They aren't alarmed enough to go for nuclear power or remove the most onerous enviro regs though are they?

Of course not. That would mean admitting that their core policies are a failure...and we can't have that, now can we? ; )

20 posted on 11/16/2003 9:29:30 PM PST by Prime Choice (This Post is Rated "Conservative": May Be Too Intense for Liberal Viewers.)
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To: NormsRevenge
This post has been added to the… California In Transition- Must read Threads!

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21 posted on 11/16/2003 10:20:31 PM PST by DoctorZIn
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To: NormsRevenge
Feinstein & Co. clucking their tongues over MTBE. And who forced MTBE down our throats to begin with? The California democrats, that's who -- same ones who are screaming about it now.
22 posted on 11/17/2003 12:47:44 AM PST by Bonaparte
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
23 posted on 11/17/2003 3:05:59 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: NormsRevenge
Well .. maybe Waxie would rather have a blackout like they had on the east coast ..?? At least that way they could continue their "it's Bush's fault" mantra.
24 posted on 11/18/2003 12:02:55 AM PST by CyberAnt (America .. the LIGHT of the World)
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