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Hillary: Sex Goddess (BARF ALERT)
Time Magazine | March 30, 1992 | Margaret Carlson

Posted on 11/17/2003 7:50:11 AM PST by venizelos

"All the men I know want to sleep with her [Hillary Clinton]. All the women want to scratch her eyes out."

Anne Reingold
Media director
Democratic National Committee
1992

When Spouses Earn Paychecks
As politicians' wives increasingly forge careers of their own, questions about conflicts of interest inevitably arise

By MARGARET CARLSON;

With reporting by Barbara Burke/New York and Jeanne McDowell/Los Angeles

The presidential campaign completed one full revolution when Bill Clinton found himself standing by his woman on national television. The moment came during a debate before the Illinois and Michigan primaries, when rival candidate Jerry Brown accused the Governor of steering state business to his wife Hillary's Arkansas law firm. "You," the furious Clinton replied, "ought to be ashamed of yourself for jumping on my wife."

Conflict-of-interest charges are nothing new for political spouses, especially wives. They are easy to make and hard to refute, and can obscure a hidden intent to put an uppity woman in her place. "This is the sort of thing that happens to women who have their own careers," Hillary Clinton said about charges that she helped a savings and loan represented by her law firm to get a break from the state securities board, which is appointed by her husband. "For goodness' sake, you can't be a lawyer if you don't represent banks." Clinton was so rattled by the accusations that she forgot that she hardly ever represents banks. And before she could convey her conviction that feminism means the choice for women to work or not, she snapped, "I suppose I could have stayed home, baked cookies and had teas."

It is doubtful that Clinton would have blundered into such a feminist minefield if the charges hadn't struck the hypersensitive spot inside women who try to make it in a man's world. Many of them still feel that somehow they haven't made it on their own or will be dismissed if they step over some invisible line of appropriate female conduct. This is particularly touchy in politics, which remains a bastion of prefeminist expectations, even though more and more politicians' wives have professional careers. The little wife is still a Norman Rockwell staple of American campaigns. George Bush is not joking when he says more people turn out for his appearances when Barbara Bush accompanies him. Local newspapers are still filled with stories about the wives of public officials visiting hospitals and revealing their favorite recipes.

According to Ruth Mandel of the Center for the American Woman and Politics at Rutgers University, the unspoken rule of political life is that a wife will tend to home and family and be by her husband's side when he runs. Working violates that rule. Being successful in a primarily male profession shatters it, as Hillary Clinton is learning. Most legal experts agree that Clinton took the needed steps to avoid conflicts, by entering into a virtual prenuptial agreement with her firm that anticipated every possible pitfall. She does not represent clients before state agencies, and she refuses her share of the firm's profits that flow from such work. "She's done everything that she can reasonably do and still practice law at a top law firm," says Washington lawyer Marc Miller, author of Politicians and Their Spouses' Careers. "If you dice her practice up into any finer points, it severely limits her opportunities to do what she is eminently qualified to do. It means we don't want wives tiptoeing anywhere near public life." Lawyer Ruth Harkin, wife of Senator Tom Harkin, agrees: "Men don't get this scrutiny, because it is assumed they deserve their success, but somehow a wife doesn't."

Spousal conflict-of-interest charges are usually aimed against wives for a simple reason: few women hold high public office that could place their husbands in jeopardy. When Barbara Morris Lent, wife of New York Congressman Norman Lent, became a lobbyist for NYNEX, she sought assurance from the House ethics committee that her job would not interfere with his voting on communications legislation. When Debbie Dingell, a lobbyist for General Motors, married Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman John Dingell, she switched to an administrative position. "Fortunately," she says, "GM is large enough that I could change jobs."

Successful male spouses, on the other hand, often get the benefit of the doubt, though there are exceptions to the rule. James Schroeder, whose wife Pat, a Colorado Congresswoman, once ran for President, says his legal career has not suffered and he has never been accused of a conflict of interest. But investment banker Richard Blum, husband of former San Francisco Mayor Dianne Feinstein, says his firm was hampered because he turned down some clients to avoid the appearance of impropriety. "Could I have done better if my wife was home baking cookies?" asks Blum. "I think so." Another Californian, secretary of state March Fong Eu, decided to abandon her race for the U.S. Senate rather than ask her husband to disclose his business holdings. It came down to a choice between her candidacy and her marriage, she said, and she chose her marriage.

Nonprofessional jobs pose as many potential conflicts but tend to attract less criticism. Marilyn Quayle forswore the practice of law because she is the Vice President's wife. But it is hard to believe that she would have been invited to appear on the Today show to promote her turgid novel, Embrace the Serpent, if Dan Quayle were just another golf-loving lawyer from Indiana. Could it be pure coincidence that Greek businessman Basil Tsakos was paying Mark Hatfield's wife $55,000 for choosing fabric and paint chips for his office at the same time the Oregon Senator was urging federal support for Tsakos' $12 billion oil pipeline? Former Washington Mayor Marion Barry's wife Effie hardly got those fur coats and low-interest loans as just another "publicist" in a town where nearly everyone fits that description.

Still, the political wife who scares people most is usually a super success like Hillary Clinton, who ranks among the nation's most powerful lawyers and got better law-school grades than her husband. Perhaps she would be better off just trailing beside her husband, holding the Nancy Reagan gaze. Instead, she is out speaking, spinning and strategizing with as much force as the candidate. When the networks broadcast the Super Tuesday victory celebration at the Chicago Hilton, Hillary Clinton introduced her husband at speech length. She knows the latest take on the GATT talks and Israeli loan guarantees. Her appearances are so devoid of the life-style fluff local papers thrive on that one reporter jokingly complained about "substance abuse."

Although campaign officials say that every time Hillary appears in a state her husband's popularity rises, some of them fear that she is developing a gender gap. Women may be tougher on another woman who seems to have it all: a high-poweredcareer and a family, brains and looks, especially one who has the mansion, the servants and the drivers to make it look easy. Anne Reingold, media director of the Democratic National Committee, has a retrograde explanation: "All the men I know want to sleep with her. All the women want to scratch her eyes out."

Politics is highly susceptible to backlash, and trailblazers do not often win popularity contests. But women who want more choices should think hard about being harsher on Hillary Clinton than they would be on a Barbara Bush. If the only nonconflict profession for a presidential spouse is no profession at all, many people might give up their career so that a spouse could seek office without raising questions of impropriety. Or potential candidates for any high office might not run, rather than ask their mates to give up a rewarding job. If that prospect forces a re-examination of the issue, it may soon be possible for politicians' spouses to work outside the home without arousing suspicions -- even if home is the White House.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: eternalvictim; femanazi; hillary; poorhillary; sexgoddess; victim
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To: venizelos
"All the men I know want to sleep with her [Hillary Clinton]."

Wow! The media director of Democratic National Committee of1992 didn't know Bill Clinton.

61 posted on 11/17/2003 8:44:59 AM PST by Tribune7 (It's not like he let his secretary drown in his car or something.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
YIKES! That one looks too real!
62 posted on 11/17/2003 8:46:19 AM PST by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary? Me Neither!!!!)
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To: buffyt
Don't you wonder how long they have to work on her to get her to look like #55, or the photo on her new book?

OTOH, here's her normal everyday get out of bed look.


63 posted on 11/17/2003 8:47:03 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: venizelos
Reingold's comment makes me physically ill.
64 posted on 11/17/2003 8:50:07 AM PST by lilylangtree
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To: texasbluebell
That Face is not electable.
65 posted on 11/17/2003 8:51:28 AM PST by kylaka
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To: presidio9
I said it before on another thread, but it's starting to bother me how much she's taking on a similar appearance to this aging rock star.

Of maybe it's the other way around -- Elton is starting to wear those old crusty suits like hers, and the hairdos, well, they must go to the same overpriced hairdresser.


66 posted on 11/17/2003 8:55:08 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: venizelos
"You," the furious Clinton replied, "ought to be ashamed of yourself for jumping on my wife."

Clinton always knew how to play that false protecting-my-poor-lil'-defenseless-wife-against-her-big-mean-ol'-chauvinist-attackers like a snake charmer, didn't he? A handy shield against all criticism or questioning of her, no matter how valid (as Brown's certainly was). One of the reasons I loathe them so much is the sheer manipulativeness they use constantly, using feminism and all sorts of cracks in society today to their own advantage. The bimbo who wrote this piece sure fell for it.

And in my experience, women tend to be Hillary supporters, not men. I have never in my life met a woman who "wanted to scratch her eyes out" or anything remotely like that. They usually see her as a good role model for girls (ugh) or dislike her for the usual political reasons. The author (by quoting the DNC flack) is just twisting reality to make the opposite appear true, standard operating procedure for the Clinton's and "Friends of Bill."

67 posted on 11/17/2003 8:55:53 AM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: kylaka
Not in its present incarnation, but wait till the plastic surgeons get a hold of her again.

She's overdue for another botox series.

They'll fix her up purty for the next election cycle.
68 posted on 11/17/2003 8:56:44 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell
She's overdue for another botox series.

They'll fix her up purty for the next election cycle.


69 posted on 11/17/2003 9:01:21 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: venizelos
Um, negative Ghost Rider.
70 posted on 11/17/2003 9:04:47 AM PST by numberonepal
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To: venizelos
Rush is back! Just came on the radio.
71 posted on 11/17/2003 9:08:38 AM PST by Richard Poe
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To: Petronski
You should be ashamed of that comparison. What the h*ll did manatees ever do to you?
72 posted on 11/17/2003 10:01:55 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: venizelos
All the men I know want to sleep with her [Hillary Clinton]. All the women want to scratch her eyes out."

Ahem....Ms. Reingold....it's just the OPPOSITE!! All the Women YOU KNOW want to sleep with Hillary and all the men want to scratch THEIR eyes out.

She's a screeching lesbo.

73 posted on 11/17/2003 11:10:40 AM PST by Ann Archy
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To: Callahan
That picture needs to be posted on EVERY Hillary thread!!!!!
74 posted on 11/17/2003 11:12:56 AM PST by Ann Archy
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To: venizelos
"All the men I know want to sleep with her. All the women want to scratch her eyes out."

I think we have a failure to communicate. When people say, "I want to f--- up Hillary," it doesn't mean they want to have sex with her.

Someone should explain that to Anne Reingold...

75 posted on 11/17/2003 12:02:07 PM PST by Prime Choice (This Post is Rated "Conservative": May Be Too Intense for Liberal Viewers.)
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To: All
In the spirit of the wealth of Hillary pictures posted on this thread, here's a few more for all to share & enjoy...


76 posted on 11/17/2003 12:07:38 PM PST by Prime Choice (This Post is Rated "Conservative": May Be Too Intense for Liberal Viewers.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Hope he works on that turkey-wattle neck while he's at it!
77 posted on 11/17/2003 12:09:04 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: venizelos
All the men I know

I think it's safe to say at this point that liberal men have really bad taste, or maybe liberal women are really really ugly, or maybe liberal women don't ...oh nevermind.

78 posted on 11/17/2003 12:10:09 PM PST by BSunday (I'm not the bad guy)
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To: I still care
Same here. I know plenty of women who admire Hillary, but most men I know hate her. Liberal feminists say it is because men are afraid of a "strong woman". But many "strong women" are so insecure about themselves. The will attack any and all perceived social and/or professional threats with incredible viciousness.

Hillary is the same way. She's probably a very insecure lady deep down under that hard, brittle shell.
79 posted on 11/17/2003 12:14:01 PM PST by jjm2111
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To: quark
I'd rather stick it in a woodchipper

OWW!!! TMI TMI TMI TMI!!!

80 posted on 11/17/2003 12:24:30 PM PST by BSunday (I'm not the bad guy)
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