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Massachusetts High court to release gay marriage decision today -- 10AM !!
Bostom Globe ^ | 11/18/2003 | AP

Posted on 11/18/2003 6:01:26 AM PST by crv16

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:11:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: richtig_faust; scripter; EdReform; LTCJ
It is necessary to have a unique word to describe the joining of a man and a woman. It is a unique relationship with unique concerns and potentialities.

It sounds like the court really wants to set itself up as being the body in charge of the dictionary, making definitions as it sees fit.

If the sodomites steal the marriage word, we will create a new word to describe the unique joining of a man and a woman. I would prefer they leave this word alone.

But, if they don't, there will be another word invented or used to describe that special combination that occurs shen male/female unite.
21 posted on 11/18/2003 6:24:26 AM PST by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Why do I have the feeling they're going to make it legal? They're far far lefties there.

Not in the social arena they (we) aren't. Too much latent 2nd and 3rd generation Catholicism up here still, though much of the Brahmin has been breeded out of the gene pool.

22 posted on 11/18/2003 6:25:57 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: crv16
The meaning of words does sometimes change over time. For instance gay sure doesn't mean what it did when I was a little girl. But the word of God never changes. Sin is always sin and homosexuality is a sin God hates.
23 posted on 11/18/2003 6:27:50 AM PST by helen crump
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To: Rutles4Ever
"Marriage" is not marriage if it is not recognized by God.


Absolutely! Marriage was instituted by God, Christ's first miracle was at a wedding.

IMO gays do not seek marriage in this traditional, Holy sense - they seek the MONETARY BENEFITS only.

If there ever is "gay marriage" none of them will last long anyway - it does not seem to be in their nature to remain "faithful" because their relationships are purely of a sexual nature.

Soon enough in any marriage, it must go beyond mere attraction and into true committment and grown-up, mature love for another person - as unconditionally as possible for human beings - this takes " Gods help. God will not be a part of any gay marriage, so they are, of course, doomed.


Then comes alimony and spousal support, retirement packages being divided...pretty soon gays will just go back to being promiscuous, tired of the idea of "marriage...
24 posted on 11/18/2003 6:27:57 AM PST by Roughneck (9 out of 10 TERRORISTS PREFER DEMOCRATS, the rest prefer Saddam Hussein)
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To: crv16
Don't sweat it, you know the FIX is IN, the gays will get a victory today, just like they did in the most conservative state of Texas! :(
25 posted on 11/18/2003 6:34:06 AM PST by RoseofTexas (r)
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To: armadale
Do you think that any marriage that includes Michael Jackson will be considered gay?

Actually, I think any marriage to MJ would have to be deemed hetero, since he is a different gender from everyone else.

26 posted on 11/18/2003 6:35:22 AM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: crv16
Guarentee ya they'll approve it.

I'm not sure why gays WANT marriage. Heck, if you want a stifling relationship where there's no sex and you are sniping at one another all the time, call your mom.

27 posted on 11/18/2003 6:45:25 AM PST by Lazamataz (PROUDLY SCARING FELLOW FREEPERS SINCE 1999 !!!!)
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To: crv16
Look for that definition to be changed in all dictionaries very soon. The revisionists appear to be winning the culture war.
28 posted on 11/18/2003 6:48:25 AM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: Semper Paratus
I heard it had been 4-3 against and one of the three was a lesbian who believed only the legislature could do this.

Interesting if true. Once in awhile, an honest liberal crops up in surprising places. I will be perfectly happy to express the proverbial "newfound respect" if this turns out to be the case.

Constitutional law aside, I live in D.C. and am acquainted with several gay Republicans in local and national political circles. Many of them are pretty conservative on most issues. None of them are flaming liberals (or they would not be hanging around in Republican precincts to begin with). They are generally assimilationist in perspective -- i.e., they are happy with live and let live and mind your own business, as long as they aren't harassed.

I've not tried to poll them on gay marriage, but I have the sense most of them think the issue is unnecessarily polarizing and not a wise investment of time and energy. This is a sensible point of view, IMO.

29 posted on 11/18/2003 6:50:37 AM PST by sphinx
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To: Roughneck
the question we shoudl be asking isif the ECUSA recognizes God..
30 posted on 11/18/2003 6:51:23 AM PST by ken5050
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To: Beaker
Fence riders like you have always turned my stomach. I abhor the homosexual "lifestyle" which is, in fact, not a lifestyle at all. I have more respect for the radical fags than I do for fence riders who just want to get along.

Also, you might want to proofread your posts from here on out. Or at least use a grammar/spell checker.

31 posted on 11/18/2003 6:53:08 AM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: xzins
It sounds like the court really wants to set itself up as being the body in charge of the dictionary, making definitions as it sees fit.

Little known fact. Congress has its own dictionary! For the purpose of writing laws, and for later court decisions, Congress has its own dictionary to define words. This being the case, the charge against shoe bomber Richard Reid that he attempted to blow up a means of "mass transportation" were thrown out. Reason... The congressional dictionaries definition of a what constitutes a method of "mass transportation" did NOT include airplanes because they travel by air and not on the ground!

32 posted on 11/18/2003 6:54:26 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: crv16
Here is a great article from yesterday by Jeff Jacoby:

The Timeless Meaning of Marriage

33 posted on 11/18/2003 6:55:16 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: crv16
Black robed thugs making law...taking away the authority of the legislature
35 posted on 11/18/2003 6:57:23 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Roughneck
"Marriage" is not marriage if it is not recognized by God.

My wife and I were married in a roman catholic church. But if were were married by Elvis in Vegas we would be just as married.

If there ever is "gay marriage" none of them will last long anyway

Heterosexuals do not have a stellar track record when it comes to lasting marriage in America either.

36 posted on 11/18/2003 6:57:51 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: RoseofTexas
The Texas decision was the right decision.
37 posted on 11/18/2003 6:58:41 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: narses; drstevej; NYer; Salvation; ninenot
The Culture War is beginning to reach a climax. Your Thoughts? God Bless
38 posted on 11/18/2003 7:00:49 AM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: crv16
I keep hearing the headlines on Fox News. The Supreme Court ruled the 7 gays couple do have the right to marry.

How is it that a court is making law, instead of the legislature?
39 posted on 11/18/2003 7:01:14 AM PST by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
And it's in.
Gay Marriage Legal
40 posted on 11/18/2003 7:01:46 AM PST by Kimlee
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