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Statement by the President on Marriage (MUST READ -- Dean/Kerry/Clark Statements Follow)
The White House ^ | Nov 18, 2003 | President Bush

Posted on 11/18/2003 3:02:45 PM PST by PhiKapMom

Statement by the President On Marriage

November 18, 2003

STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

Marriage is a sacred institution between a man and a woman. Today's decision of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court violates this important principle. I will work with congressional leaders and others to do what is legally necessary to defend the sanctity of marriage.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; catholiclist; clark; dean; family; goodridge; homosexualagenda; howarddean; kerry; marriage; matrimony; presbush; prisoners
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To: longtermmemmory
Bingo! Together with the Family Leave Act - hetereo roomates can now claim gay and stay home with each other for vacation ad infinitum ... hooray Capitalism is dead! and of course it's that idiot Geo. Bush's fault
121 posted on 11/18/2003 4:30:40 PM PST by Republicus2001
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To: PhiKapMom
kerry...you double talking idiot..either you are an idiot or you think the electorate is...you oppose gay marriage but support it at the same time???

no wonder your rich wife spits on you and spanks you and just generally detests you like the majority of America does...you sissy sub-boy communist, french looking presidential candidate (AND vietnam veteran)

avsomebody please slap his momma for having him!!!!!!! hell, slap his daddy too...he caused "
it" to happen
122 posted on 11/18/2003 4:30:57 PM PST by cajun-jack
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To: William McKinley
I see your second point. Too much has happened to the conservative movement wrt overruling conservative issues via the liberal agenda and judical appointments.

But, if the precedent of judges being able to dictate from the bench what legistlatures cannot or will not is allowed to stand forever, then you are right.

This has been status quo for at least 30+ some years. Unless we, as conservative can wake up our base, this will pass. I have a sinking feeling this will happen. There is just not enough prime time media or prime time newspapers to help us. The real problem lies with the backbone of the republican party, they need a backbone now more than ever. We, as republicans, need to fight fire with fire, not with a cup of water.

I can see it now, a court ruling that the first amendment's edict that Congress shall make no law regarding an establishment of religion does not mean that churches can 'discriminate' against gay church members. Can't you?

Yes. and unless the republican party grows some balls, this will pass and be upheld. This is a sad day for the United States.

123 posted on 11/18/2003 4:31:13 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Don't sweat the petty . . . pet the sweaty)
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To: Grampa Dave
Before this is over, Gray Davis may be the lucky rat to be out of the firestorm that is coming. A lot of rats in office are looking a Gray Davis and wondering when the voter lightening will strike them.

Up here in the land of cheese and beer, where Governor Jim (Craps) Doyle just vetoed, among other things, a defense-of-marriage bill at the same time he unilaterally offered health benefits to shack-up partners of unionized state employees, the storm begins January 6, 2004 when recall petitions are taken out on him (I wish we could do that sooner, but the Wisconsin constitution protects him for the first year in office).

124 posted on 11/18/2003 4:33:50 PM PST by steveegg (Wisconsin CCW? Since Craps Doyle vetoed, OVERRIDE and RECALL - countdown is now 42 days)
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To: COURAGE
I assume your response was to my question regarding the distinction (if there really is any) between marriage and 'same-sex' unions. If that is the case, it seems like a duck to me.
125 posted on 11/18/2003 4:34:51 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Wolfstar
In my view, the best way to deal with this is to return marriage and related matters entirely to the private sector.

How do you do this when three obscure State Supremes can rewrite the definition of marriage and require the legislature to implement their revision within 160 days?

126 posted on 11/18/2003 4:35:49 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: PhiKapMom
Not only are the RATs 180 from President Bush and from America, but they're not even in the same solar system anymore.
127 posted on 11/18/2003 4:37:56 PM PST by steveegg (Wisconsin CCW? Since Craps Doyle vetoed, OVERRIDE and RECALL - countdown is now 42 days)
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To: PhiKapMom
I say, let them have it, the "divorce" courts will be buried with "same" sex divorces and they will all be hysterical rantings of, generally speaking, unbalanced people. The courtrooms will be like a three-ring circus.
128 posted on 11/18/2003 4:39:34 PM PST by Toespi
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To: onyx; Grampa Dave; MeeknMing
Bush needs to hand Dumbocrats a gift-wrapped package of dynamite wedge issues and Dummycrats anti-religionism -- showcased by big buck anti-Bush campaign donors George Soros and Norman Lear (the latter runs the religio-phobic People for The American Way) - is a good place to start.

It's the Dims dirty little secret----an obsessive hatred for religion and those who espouse it. We can, and will, convincingly label hate-filled Dummycrats as anti-religion fanatics.

Ponder this. The Christian vote is so important that even the venal, corrupt Clintons had to resort to carrying Bibles and going to Sunday services even though it must have nearly killed the evil duo.

The Dims sub-rosa anti-religionism has been brought into sharp relief by the homo marriage issue. Most Americans oppose homo marriage and it is very significant that nearly all the Dim prez candidates, to date, were forced to come out against it even though they genuflect at the altar of the homo agenda.

One way to stick it to the religio-phobic Dummycrats is to throw the homo marriage issue in their faces. Using that atrategy, Bush places Dims religious phobias under a glaring spotlight.

129 posted on 11/18/2003 4:39:45 PM PST by Liz
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
I can't help but think of how Clinton would have commented on this issue. I came up with a phrase for Clinton and Bush, to contrast their leadership style:

Bill Clinton -- playing to the lowest common denominator. George W. Bush -- taking a stand for the greatest common good.

The distinction is subtle, but important, and likely lost on liberals.

I wouldn't call the distinction subtle, and it's not merely "likely lost" on the lieberals, but I get the point.

130 posted on 11/18/2003 4:39:54 PM PST by steveegg (Wisconsin CCW? Since Craps Doyle vetoed, OVERRIDE and RECALL - countdown is now 42 days)
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To: COURAGE
history perhaps but in the United States today only the civil aspects carry weight. The only work around is a common law recognition is the states that still recognize common law marriage. Those are becomming fewer and fewer.
131 posted on 11/18/2003 4:45:14 PM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: Wolfstar
As many others on this thread have already pointed out, the purpose of marriage was and is to protect children, mostly, but also women.

It is also the method of preserving the values of the society and passing those values on to the children. It is the only reasonable way short of the "Brave New World." Without traditional marriage our society will collapse. Another society will take its place. I doubt it will be good.

Shalom.

132 posted on 11/18/2003 4:47:25 PM PST by ArGee (Would human clones work better than computers? Both would be man-made.)
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To: steveegg
I wouldn't call the distinction subtle

It's subtle to liberals, to be kind. They think 'greatest common good' means communism.

133 posted on 11/18/2003 4:49:28 PM PST by TrappedInLiberalHell (Do Muslim androids dream of electric goats?)
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To: B Knotts
Some will protest that this is not of sufficient import for amending the Constitution, but it is the traditional family that is the basis for our entire culture and society.

It was necessary to pass the Fourteenth Amendment to overrule the courts, and establish the meanings of the words, "person" and "citizen."

It is now, sadly, necessary to pass a new amendment to establish the meaning of the word, "marriage."

134 posted on 11/18/2003 4:49:29 PM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: ArGee
The courts have father as a four letter word. Next motherhood will be a four letter word.

The leftist socialists are USING the homosexuals to seperate child rearing and children from the institution of marriage. Hitler used the homosexuals in the 30's and 40's. The left is using them again.
135 posted on 11/18/2003 4:51:46 PM PST by longtermmemmory
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To: mhking
Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., said the decision was a "welcome new milestone on the road to full civil rights for all our citizens.

Until the next set of deviants show up wanting full legal recognition...

136 posted on 11/18/2003 4:59:27 PM PST by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
I have mixed feelings about the ruling. There is an advantage to having at least one state that approves such unions -- all the gay people will flock there to sanctify their unions, so at least they'll be all in one place.

I think you're missing the point... Marriages in one state MUST be recognized by other states. The only way around this is either a blanket amendment to the U.S. Constitution, or for each state to define marriage as between a man and a woman. But with the latter option, the Supreme Court will just declare those laws unconstitional, hence the need to modify the constitution.

137 posted on 11/18/2003 5:03:11 PM PST by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Excellent point. I know the viewpoint I stated is rather like spitting into the teeth of a hurricane. Even though it hasn't a chance of happening, I nevertheless believe getting government out of the business of licensing marriages is the correct solution.
138 posted on 11/18/2003 5:06:50 PM PST by Wolfstar (An angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.)
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To: PhiKapMom
-- a fundamental belief in the equality of human beings, regardless of race, gender or sexual orientation."

I assume by sexual orientation he means gay, lesbian, transgendered, transvestite, questioning, cross generation "love", and fill in the blank...

139 posted on 11/18/2003 5:07:45 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: PhiKapMom
"There will be those who try to use the decision today to divide Americans. Instead, this decision should be viewed as an opportunity to affirm what binds us together ...

So besides being a MetroSexual, Dean is into bondage as well, huh ?? ...

Howard Dean: Metrosexual

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140 posted on 11/18/2003 5:09:19 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (I won! I won! http://rmeek141.home.comcast.net/LotteryTicketRutRoh.JPG)
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