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ENGINEERED EXTINCTION
The New American ^
| 11/19/2003
| William F. Jasper
Posted on 11/19/2003 3:52:18 AM PST by JesseHousman
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Far less has been heard of the similar woes besetting our basic resource industries farming, ranching, mining and timber and the major inroads that foreign competitors (including our declared enemies) have made into these critical areas.By the time Americans, who vote the likes of Hillary Clinton, Tom Harken, Tom Dashel, and the whole gaggle of politicos who make up the socialist-communist party in America, wake up to what the hell's going on around them; what they've allowed their government to do to them, it will be too late.
To: JesseHousman
This has nothing to do really with the article, except wouldn't it be a great thing if Americans learned once again how to grow their own vegetables, raise their own meat, or hunt for it, can their own food, fish, make their own wine and beer, build their own houses...
are we going into a new American era where those who can provide for themselves will be the real winners, the survivors?
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posted on
11/19/2003 3:57:39 AM PST
by
cherry
To: JesseHousman
...the watermelon Marxists have succeeded so spectacularly not because of their own brilliance or the inherent power of their message, but because of the enormous financial aid they have received from Americas largest foundations and corporations...Obviously, William F. Jasper has read Carry_Okie's book.
Atlas is shrugging, right before our eyes.
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posted on
11/19/2003 4:11:26 AM PST
by
snopercod
(And if it is a despot you would dethrone, see first that his throne erected within you is destroyed.)
To: cherry
wouldn't it be a great thing if Americans learned once again how to grow their own vegetables, raise their own meat, or hunt for it, can their own food, fish, make their own wine and beer, build their own houses...Unfortunately there has been so much dumbing down of Americans (through their own fault) that many would starve, go thirsty and be forced, by their own ignorance, to lay out under the stars, the rain and the snow without even a tarp over their heads.
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posted on
11/19/2003 4:11:42 AM PST
by
JesseHousman
(Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
To: Carry_Okie
We need a name for the declining class of Americans with know how - those able to actually design and build things.
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posted on
11/19/2003 4:14:33 AM PST
by
snopercod
(And if it is a despot you would dethrone, see first that his throne erected within you is destroyed.)
To: JesseHousman
If it ever gets that bad, I'm off to my bolt-hole in the Australian Outback. Mud house, solar power, and subsistence farming for me.
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posted on
11/19/2003 4:21:02 AM PST
by
FierceDraka
("I AM NOT A NUMBER - I AM A FREE MAN!")
To: cherry
>>are we going into a new American era where those who can provide for themselves will be the real winners, the survivors?
Probably not true winners in the economic sense, but perhaps winners only in that they are able to survive when others cannot.
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posted on
11/19/2003 4:34:31 AM PST
by
cpst12
To: snopercod
We need a name for the declining class of Americans with know how - those able to actually design and build things. How about "the Betrayed"?
To: FierceDraka
subsistence farming for me...Oh, you want to die an early death like our subsistence-farming ancestors did. Backbreaking labor, disease, pestilence, abject poverty...Yeah, that's the ticket.
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posted on
11/19/2003 4:44:41 AM PST
by
snopercod
(And if it is a despot you would dethrone, see first that his throne erected within you is destroyed.)
To: JesseHousman
BTTT
To: cherry
I grow and hunt for some of my food and have had to depend on this to feed my family, from time to time, because of extended layoffs and savings depleation.
Forget your image of the nobel savage, living off the land, being independant. It's as much a fantasy as the Wilderness Family movies from the 70's. After living off of processed food for most of your life, it is an hardship to "live off the land", even partially. You start to crave greasy burgers, sugar, pop, etc, but cannot affort it. The kids get appatite fatigue first and start to get skinny. They will pester you constantly for "real" food.
During such times, for family fun, we would go to the local camp sites and backwoods party sites and pickup pop cans. This money would be used to buy $1 cheese burgers from McDonalds as a treat!
I know some Amish families who only go to "town" for supplies once a year. For breakfast, they eat oatmeal with maple syrup, butter and milk. This is what they eat for breakfast, everyday.
For lunch, they eat bread dipped in milk. That's it. Every day, all year long.
For dinner, they will have their first real meal with meat, which is usually a egg layer that is too old for laying eggs. Not exactly the choicest cut! If it's deer season, they may feast. Other than that, its harsh especially if you have known better times. I think that is what makes it unpleasant.
To: FierceDraka
I'm already opening my second office in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The deteriotation of the USA figured largely into that decision.
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posted on
11/19/2003 5:08:11 AM PST
by
The Duke
To: The Duke
'I'm already opening my second office in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The deteriotation of the USA figured largely into that decision. '
What does your business do?
To: countrydummy
ping
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posted on
11/19/2003 5:50:58 AM PST
by
agitator
(Ok, mic check...line one...)
To: snopercod
Obviously, William F. Jasper has read Carry_Okie's book. Nope. He talked to forester, who did.
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posted on
11/19/2003 6:06:33 AM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
To: sauropod; farmfriend; exodus
Ping!
To: RockChucker
I thought the Amish lived in areas of very fertile soil
and produced their own food in abundance.
To: snopercod
We need a name for the declining class of Americans with know how - those able to actually design and build things. How about Heinleinians?, from Robert Heinlein, who once wrote that:
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." (Time Enough For Love)
To: StatesEnemy
How about "The Self-reliant"
To: snopercod
Actually, we can bring with us the information and technology acquired since the 1800's such as power from solar, modern medical and health practices, burning vegetable oil in diesel engines, distilling alcohol for
fuel, etc. All the things that make subsistence farming
a healthy, doable lifestyle.
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