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ENGINEERED EXTINCTION
The New American ^ | 11/19/2003 | William F. Jasper

Posted on 11/19/2003 3:52:18 AM PST by JesseHousman

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To: JesseHousman
There's a lot of money to be made from failure. Look at lawyering, for example.

The American story used to be a success story. The story's being changed to say that failure is the way to get gov't money.

Slacker mentality is slowly swamping the acheivers and doers.
21 posted on 11/19/2003 8:32:19 AM PST by P.O.E.
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To: upcountryhorseman
Of course there is a simple solution to this.

VOTE FOR PEOPLE IN FAVOR OF YOUR VIEWS.

That's what the DemoRATS do and that is why they are successful.

It only takes a voice to make things happen. Stop sitting on your asses and bitch and whine. Find out who your representative is, send him a letter telling him that these issues either get his attention or in the next election you will vote for someone that shares your opinion.

Get it through your heads, congressmen and senators are our for one and only one person, themselves. If left unchecked they turn into the slime we despise. But by the time that happens it is too late.

Look at the inner cities. They sold their constituents out and now they are too entrenched for anyone to do anything. This will happen everywhere unless we take back our government.

Sounds like a commercial for term limits.
22 posted on 11/19/2003 8:50:45 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz
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To: struwwelpeter
I've read a lot of Heinlein, but not that particular book. What a great line, and true. He catches the spirit I am talking about.

Ayn Rand called us "the men of the mind", which although true, isn't catchy.

Heinleinians doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, either. Heines? Naaahahhhhhh....

23 posted on 11/19/2003 8:57:26 AM PST by snopercod (The punishment for poaching the King's deer is death.)
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To: upcountryhorseman
In my younger days, I tried a lot of that. Trust me, after raising your own meat and vegetables for a couple of years, you will fall down on your knees and thank God for supermarkets. You can buy meat, eggs, and milk in the store much cheaper than you can buy the feed for the animals required to produce them. Let alone the fencing, pasture, vet bills, etc.

I'm on an electric generator for a couple of days while they work on our power lines, but I never forget that other people had to design and build that generator, and yet others had to extract the oil and refine it into gasoline for me so I can be "self-sufficient".

24 posted on 11/19/2003 9:06:12 AM PST by snopercod (The punishment for poaching the King's deer is death.)
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To: upcountryhorseman
The Amish live where the land is cheap. The soil merely needs to be suitable for hay, at best. Their gardens can be abundant, thanks to horse puckeys, but their land can be marginal.

More and more are living by cutting cants for pallets. Others make kitchen cabinets. More and more are cutting custom lumber (top grade) for trim work, etc.

The ones who exclusively farm probably have no mortgage or debt. I don't see what crop you could raise and make a monthly mortgage payment (except maui waui). Even during a good year, an 80 acre farm produces at best around $6,000 before expenses.
25 posted on 11/19/2003 9:23:17 AM PST by RockChucker
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To: upcountryhorseman
Actually, we can bring with us the information and technology acquired since the 1800's such as power from solar, modern medical and health practices, burning vegetable oil in diesel engines, distilling alcohol for fuel, etc. All the things that make subsistence farming a healthy, doable lifestyle. Pure Economic Baloney !! Just regular old common sense can tell you this just isn't so. If it is, where are all the people doing it ? I live out in the country, and I see lots of people try it, but there is just no way to pay taxes, purchase land, buy health care, cars, buy electricity , comply with numerous and ridiculous government regulations or anything else, on what you can make from farming. The farmers I see are struggling, and everyone has a job in town. Drive around in the midwest sometime, and check out town after town, empty and dying. Do you think that they're all so stupid that nobody could figure it out? Frankly, the only people I hear touting this are ivory tower types who couldn't make an honest dollar if their lives depended on it,people who've never tried it, or college students. Which are you ?
26 posted on 11/19/2003 10:10:56 AM PST by Red Boots
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To: FierceDraka
Won't work.

We'll have to get busy and eradicate congress.

27 posted on 11/19/2003 12:55:40 PM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: P.O.E.
AMEN!

We're sunk and we're as responsible for the sinkin as the liberals are!

28 posted on 11/19/2003 1:06:46 PM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: RockChucker
You are right an 80 acre layout won't do it. You need
about 350 acres, using horses for power.
29 posted on 11/19/2003 1:09:20 PM PST by upcountryhorseman
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To: snopercod
You are correct: it's very labor intensive. we live way
out in the boonies and we are not hooked up to any utility.
I installed a solar electric power system when I built our
house and it has been very satisfactory. (we do have a generator for back-up and to power the well pump).
30 posted on 11/19/2003 1:25:18 PM PST by upcountryhorseman
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To: JesseHousman; AAABEST; Ace2U; Alamo-Girl; Alas; amom; AndreaZingg; Anonymous2; ApesForEvolution; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.

31 posted on 11/20/2003 1:24:58 AM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
32 posted on 11/20/2003 3:37:06 AM PST by E.G.C.
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