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Governor Seeks New Trial Over Brain Damaged Woman's Wishes
Tampa Bay Online ^ | November 19, 2003 | Vickie Chachere

Posted on 11/19/2003 4:13:47 PM PST by sweetliberty

Gov. Jeb Bush fired a volley of legal shots Wednesday at the husband of a brain damaged woman who is at the center of a right to die case, saying there needs to be a jury trial on whether Terri Schiavo wanted to be kept alive artificially. The governor also sought to remove Pinellas Circuit Court Judge W. Douglas Baird from hearing the constitutionality of the new law enacted to keep Terri Schiavo alive after her feeding tube was removed last month. In yet a third legal filing, the governor argues that Terri Schiavo's rights under the Florida Constitution are being protected, not violated.

Terri Schiavo went for six days without food and water after her husband Michael Schiavo removed her feeding tube. Florida lawmakers and Bush intervened, enacting a hastily drawn law that allowed the governor to order the feeding tube be reinserted.

Michael Schiavo has challenging the constitutionality of the governor's action. He contends his wife had said she did not want to be kept alive artificially before she suffered severe brain damage in 1990. Doctors have ruled she has been in a persistent vegetative state since, but her parents believe she is aware of her surroundings and could be rehabilitated.

Bush's attorney Ken Connor said a jury has to establish what Terri Schiavo's wishes were before a court can decide whether her private health care wishes were violated.

George Felos, Michael Schiavo's attorney, could not immediately be reached for comment.

TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: attorneyfromhell; coma; cultureofdeath; drug; druginducedcoma; euthanasia; geiorgefelos; governorhebbush; guardianfromhell; hino; husbandfromhell; judgegreer; merchantsofdeath; michaelschiavo; reallifeghouls; terri; terrischiavo
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To: TaxRelief
So we're back to the Dean's Inner Circle at the University of Miami, again.

There's a group out there with an agenda, and I have a feeling they're lining up people across the country. This case is their test case.....on to other states next.

101 posted on 11/19/2003 8:08:36 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Chancellor Palpatine; No More Gore Anymore
The only thing we're repetitive about is telling you TROLLS to LEAVE US ALONE and post on a thread where there's something INTERESTING FOR YOU. YOU and your tripe DON'T INTEREST US.
102 posted on 11/19/2003 8:11:07 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
"shes a turnip"

She's a human being and a child created by God in His image. How dare you be so despicable!!

103 posted on 11/19/2003 8:11:45 PM PST by LADY J
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To: sweetliberty
Michael Schiavo and his lawyer have been 'kicking sand' in the face of Terrie, her family and even in the face of Governor Bush.

I hope Michael's 'team Shiavo' are beginning to get an idea of 'consequences' here. . .

104 posted on 11/19/2003 8:11:57 PM PST by cricket
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
If you could talk with Terri and ask her to blink her eyes twice for no and she was able to do this enough that you were certain she was communicating with you, would you still want her to die if she told you she wanted to live? Remember nothing will have changed. She will still be "a turnip, and can't contribute diddly and will still subtract resourses and consume time"
105 posted on 11/19/2003 8:13:12 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: All
Here is info on the bone scan hearing.

by Steven Ertelt Editor November 19, 2003

Pinellas Park, FL ( -- Judge George Greer will hear a motion tomorrow filed by Michael Schiavo that would prevent discovery of information regarding a bone scan conducted on Terri Schiavo that shows she may have been a victim of physical abuse.

While most media outlets have reported that Terri Schiavo collapsed at home in 1990 as a result of a potassium imbalance, Terri's family has long suspected that the real cause may have been physical abuse at the hand of her estranged husband Michael.

A bone scan conducted on Terri in March 1991 showed she had several fractures and was the victim of "abnormal activity" that caused "previous traumas," indicating she may have been beaten or abused.

Attorneys for Terri's family had planned to depose Dr. Campbell Walker, the radiologist who conducted the bone scan, on Friday to obtain his further analysis of it.

Michael's motion asks the court to block the deposition saying that the court has already dealt with the bone scan in previous hearings.

Terri's parents Bob and Mary Schindler hope the information from Dr. Campbell will help show Judge Greer that Michael is unfit to be Terri's guardian. A case to change guardianship to Terri's brother Bob is pending before Greer.

The Schindlers have asked Pinellas County State Attorney Bernie McCabe on several occasions to call a grand jury to investigate the bone scan as well as other abuses during Michael's guardianship.

At the time, McCabe declined to investigate saying too much time had passed between the collapse and the scan.

Also, doctors other than those selected by Michael's attorney have reviewed Terri's medical records.

"It was found that a heart attack did not cause Terri's collapse as everyone was led to believe. Rather, according to one physician, Terri may have been a strangulation victim," Pamela Hennessy, a representative of the family, told previously.

The Schindlers say Michael also wants to remove any possible evidence that could be used to substantiate accusations of wrongdoing.

Michael wants Terri's body cremated if she dies, which would deny any chance the family has to validate a long-held suspicion.

"Michael has instructed the judge to cremate her body upon her death, which adds even more suspicion to what really happened to Terri," Bob Schindler said.

He added, "We're trying to stop the cremation from happening if Terri does die, so hopefully, we get to the process of investigating what may have happened to Terri that evening."

In September, three nurses filed affidavits saying Michael has withheld proper medical care from Terri.

"He's been trying to kill her -- that's the bottom line," said Carla Sauer Iyer, a 39-year-old registered nurse who cared for Terri Schiavo at a nursing home in 1995 and '96. She says Terri has said words such as "Mommy," "help me" and "pain."

George Felos, the assisted suicide advocate who is Michael's attorney, calls the nurse's statements, "a bunch of garbage." He claims Michael has been insistent that Terri receive the best medical care possible.

106 posted on 11/19/2003 8:14:36 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: nicmarlo
Fine - I have no problem with that. Of course, in return, I'd ask that you quit trying to exert pressure on Florida officials regarding a case in which you aren't involved and have no direct contact with the evidence - which none of you would be willing to do.

I guess I'll have to keep on second guessing your observations and meddling.

107 posted on 11/19/2003 8:15:50 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Okay so you still don't get it.. why do we need to know that? We know you don't get .. you can rest soundly knowing that we got the point of all of your posts; You don't understand the function of the government, you don't understand this case, you don't understand the ramifications of this case on our Republic. Good heavens , you can stop repeating yourself. You don't get.. we know that already.
108 posted on 11/19/2003 8:17:53 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: editor-surveyor
Thanks for the ping, editor ...and don'tcha just know that Feindish Felos is not available for comment because he's skate boarding around Floridah trying to find potential jurors... so he can stare into their eyes while giving them his own mental commands to "let Terri die"... "she told Prince Mikey she wants to die, so let her die, "... "show Governor Bush that YOU are the boss in this matter"... "let that freekin' vegitable die, dammit... cuz every other argument is just a bunch of garbage." !!!


109 posted on 11/19/2003 8:18:21 PM PST by GeekDejure (<H3> Searching For The Meaning Of "Huge" Fonts !!!</H3>)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
I don't have to do anything in "return" for you to quit spamming threads that "don't interest you" because TO YOU it's irrelevant. This is not IRRELEVANT to me, and to those who post here. Only YOU are irrelevant. There is no point to your posts; however, there is a point to our communication with elected officials.
110 posted on 11/19/2003 8:19:10 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: CindyDawg
Meaningful communication? Sure.
111 posted on 11/19/2003 8:19:58 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Ronin
About damn time, Jeb!

I was wondering when/if he was going to take the gloves off and realize that there is no down side to using every resource he has available.

I had to chuckle about this.
JEB hears from me constantly. I'm sure I am either on his annoy list, or nut list.
Seriously, anything I send to anybody, JEB gets a CC. Scathing emails included.
Back when the Senate was considering Terri's Bill, they ran an alert on FOX, stating the Senate was taking an afternoon break. I fired off an email to each and every one of them, asking if they were having lunch, or would they be starving and dehydrating along with Terri. I called them mindless.
Our entire group emailed them several times. 20 minutes later, the bill was passed. I would like to think our actions and words helped them along in their decision.
Patience may be a virtue, but there is a place for patience. Mine had run out that day.
112 posted on 11/19/2003 8:20:31 PM PST by KDubRN
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To: sweetliberty
I don't get the ping thing........duh
113 posted on 11/19/2003 8:21:46 PM PST by KDubRN
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Why? Her physical status would not have changed and she would still be all the things that you see her as now, wouldn't she? Not flaming . Just trying to understand why us wanting her to have that opportunity is wrong to you?
114 posted on 11/19/2003 8:24:04 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: nicmarlo
Purple with rage on this one, aren't you? All the way in New York, screwing with people you don't even know and in a matter which is none of your business, and yet you have the audacity to claim that I shouldn't point out how stupid, imprudent and pointless this is?

Perhaps you should open up your checkbook. Reimburse Florida's taxpayers for its costs incurred here due to pressure you've helped bring to bear.

Its real easy to make other people pay the cost for your moral stances, isn't it?

115 posted on 11/19/2003 8:25:32 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Terri means everything to the Republic, she is the very epitome of the helpless crying out for a voice, you know, like a baby about to be executed in a partial birth abortion nightmare.

Terri's will to live must be ferocious, tenacious and desparate when considering the abuse she has taken, the neglect is staggering.

Join us as we defend her, fight with and for her, and lay before our fellowman the value of every single human being, we can brush aside those who claim a line in the sand, some arbitrary method of assigning worthiness to human life, in declining increments related to the severity of the imperfections or handicaps, as it were.

Walk a few days in the Schindler's shoes-try to vicariously live their experience with Judge Greer's court and MS, walk awhile in MS's shoes, paying careful attention to note his current lifestyle, what he enjoys, and what joy he has offered to Terri, and then, join us as we fight for this precious American family.

This story isn't too little, it is TOO BIG. It is life and death and where we stand, impacts the outcome.

The funny thing about life is, you never know when or if you will be next in line, suddenly vulnerable, and dependent upon others. Choose your friends wisely, with people like felos, groups like the ACLU, and any creep who would be willing subvert his or her integrity to work for janet reno (remember WACO, ELIAN, and Oklahoma?) against you, even written wishes could be twisted. And there you would lay, UNABLE to scream out...NO! NO! NO!

116 posted on 11/19/2003 8:25:47 PM PST by Republic
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To: Ann Archy
Who's got Jeb's e-addy so we can thank him?
117 posted on 11/19/2003 8:26:10 PM PST by KDubRN
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To: sweetliberty
I will see you tomorrow sweetliberty; time for me to hit the hay. Have a good one!
118 posted on 11/19/2003 8:26:16 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: CindyDawg
Call it residual sentimentality.

Of course, half a century ago, she'd have been dead for years already. A century ago, they wouldn't have given her death a second thought.

119 posted on 11/19/2003 8:26:55 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
What is the difference between you and Terri, why do you think you are more valuable to society?

You have a problem with "me too isms"? Hi, welcome to, bud. What I have finally figuree out about you is that you have a problem with other people getting things done, believing in something greater than themselves. You,OTH, don't stand for anything, fight for anything or believe in anything. You are here as you say" to make sure the fence sitters " get fair representation on a website dedicated to grass roots activism. Get a life.. Terri has one. She has been a mighty warrior in her fight to live.

Get this, a person you say is a turnip, has more conviction for life, in her little disabled finger, than you have within your entire body.

BTW, yes I am crazy obsessed with this country ,and what goes on with our government. "I am here, let me be clear , get used to it". :}

120 posted on 11/19/2003 8:27:06 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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