Bombshell: Kobe Accuser Had Sex with Key Witness

The Globe ^ | 11/20/03 | Globe

[Smogger]

A new bombshell revelation in the Kobe Bryant case threatens to destroy the credibility of the prosecution’s key witness - whose testimony could send the basketball superstar to jail for years. Sources told GLOBE that the 19-year-old woman who has accused Bryant of rape told them she had sex with the prosecution’s star witness Bobby Pietrack - a week before she met Bryant.

Pietrack, a 23-year-old bellhop at the resort where the alleged rape took place, is the first person Katelyn Faber told about her encounter with Bryant. He can testify about her emotional state and physical appearance at the time.

But legal experts tell us that if there was a sexual encounter between Katelyn and the bellhop, it could wreck his credibility and sink the case of the Eagle County, Colo., prosecutor.

For all the details of this blockbuster story, pick up the new issue of GLOBE.

[Smogger]

Phreebass called it. The #1 reason for false accusation of rape: the accuser makes the accusation to conceal consentual sex from a boyfriend/parent. Well there you have it folks. You have already read accounts that the bellboy was following the Kobe and the accuser around the hotel as she gave Kobe a tour of the facility. Phreebass rightly surmised that his romantic interest would put the moves on the Kobester. Obviously, the bellboy was anxious when his romantic interest disappeared into Kobe's room for 20 minutes. Unforutnately, the alleged victim decided to put his mind at ease that nothing consentual took place with a false allegation of rape. Sickening.

[Smogger]

[Smogger]

ping.

what a suprise.

[Orangedog]

My, she does get around, doesn't she.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

My, oh, my. Kobe is the luckiest son of a gun around!

This girl's mother must want to KILL her, now!

[StolarStorm]

Geeez.... I'm starting to wonder if this girl was the hotel call girl.

[ex-Texan]

*BUMP*!

[Owl_Eagle]

Well, there's no less impeachable source than The Globe!

Hey Smogger, what's the skinny on Art Carney's touching last words?

 

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

 

[WackyKat]

The #1 reason for false accusation of rape: the accuser makes the accusation to conceal consentual sex from a boyfriend/parent. Well there you have it folks.

Get real. She's 19 years old. Why would she have to "conceal" anything, and how would a false rape accusation "conceal" it?

I can see the Bryant camp's victim smear campaign is having its desired effect.

[Ssrn53]

Is that the picture of the accuser? It's the first time I've seen her.

[dead]

Holy crap! Look at Winona!!!!

[KantianBurke]

Pietrack, a 23-year-old bellhop at the resort where the alleged rape took place, is the first person Katelyn Faber told about her encounter with Bryant.

Per Jim Robsinson's rules - no naming the defendant. Please pull this thread.

[Smogger]

Thanks for restoring the original thread.

Thanks for valuing free speech.

[Smogger]

Just so were clear here. It's been widely reported that the bellboy was following the Kobe and the Accuser around on during her tour of the facility like a lost puppy dog. He knew what she was up to. So finally she ditches the bellboy and gets down to business with Kobe. What's she gonna say to the bellboy after she emerges from Kobe's room?

1. We were just playing chess.
2. I was showing him how the hot tub worked.
3. He made me!

If you chose answer 3 your on the right track.

[Smogger]

Per Jim Robsinson's rules - no naming the defendant. Please pull this thread.

The rules have been relaxed as her name and appearance are now common knowledge. At least for anyone who goes to the grocery store, 7-11, or uses the Internet. A victory for free speech IMHO.

[riri]

Look at Winona!!!!

I know. Looks like she drank an extra chromosome.

[Skywalk]

I hate to break this to you, but no matter where you stand on this case, false rape allegations are OFTEN used to conceal either 1)some form of sexual contact that was NOT supposed to happen because of a relationship or what have you or 2) to extract oneself from trouble with the parents

An example of 1) would be the woman who started the Tailhook scandal by alleging a gang rape took place. It turned out she had a fiance and had participated in an orgy and didn't want him to find out she was a whore.

An example of 2) would be Tawana Brawley.


It's not a victim smear campaign, dolt. It's a man trying to save what's left of his reputation and trying to be free while doing so.

[Rudder]

More of that nuts and sluts defense.

In this particular case the plaintiff is both.

[KantianBurke]

Please indicate the thread and announcement in which Jim Robinson relaxed the house rules.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Is that Winona or Meat Loaf?

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Bear in mind that this is The Globe.

[beezdotcom]

Is that Winona or Meat Loaf?

I thought it was Jack Black in a wig...

[cyncooper]

I just read your locked thread and had a reply all typed and it got pulled, then put back, then locked!

First, even the prosecutors said the underwear evidence belonged to either one of two guys. This indicates she informed them of this information and most of us following the case guessed the bellman was one guy she'd been with.

You queried on the other thread how this guy can be a witness. Because the finding of her blood on Bryant's shirt happens to back up her story, in addition to a he said/she said. And if in fact events transpired exactly as she said, and the bellman did in fact hear the story from her that night and so on, how can he not testify.

Still haven't called Bryant a rapist, but "revelations" like this that are really not new news and don't demonstrate Bryant's innocence do not lead me to think he is. Innocent, that is. Also note that it does show Mackey's "three day" question was cleverly devised to imply 3 consecutive days when she knew it was not. Despite what others have accused me of, I do not begrudge Mackey using defense lawyer tactics to present a deceitful presentation of facts. It's what defense lawyers do. I always wonder why someone deviates from the strict truth to skew it, though,and it does not cause me to think it's because they have nothing to hide.

[armadale]

So Michael Jackson shares a bed with a 14-year-old, has to post $3 million bail, and is the most hated man on earth.

Kobe Bryant has violent back-entry sex with a woman -- even if she agreed to some early snuggling -- and he's still a hero.

What am I missing?

[GalaxieFiveHundred]

Holy crap! Look at Winona!!!!

Yeah, and is that Liza Minnelli with Rosie?!

[P-Marlowe]

A victory for free speech IMHO.

Dittos.

Free Republic is not a general circulation newspaper. We come here to get the news you can't get from the mainstream press. I think it is a bad idea when forums like this impose restrictions on the type of FACTS that they are going to allow to be posted.

This girl is not a 14 year old virgin. Indeed, it appears she is quite the opposite. This fact is extremely relevant to whether or not a Jury can believe she did or did not consent. But then this is the type of evidence that our politically correct legislatures and Judges have decided should be kept from Juries. In a "he said/she said" case such as this, the prior seuxual conduct of both parties is highly relevant. It should not be excluded. If she is sleeping with every Tom Dick and Harry, then you should be able to conclude that she just might sleep with every Kobe that came around as well.

[cyncooper]

She planted the blood,hm?

And risked getting in legal trouble with police all so Pietrack wouldn't get mad at her, hm?

[rdb3]

It used to be that I'd totally ignore the Globe or the Enquirer. Not anymore after the Je$$e story broke.

This is a trip.

[Skywalk]

Because Michael Jackson has a history of this kind of bizarre behavior and people believe he is a pedophile of some kind whereas people don't believe Kobe had "violent back-entry sex."

Beyond legal presumption of innocence(glad it ain't you on trial, or we'd all have to assume you guilty just because you were accused) a lot of people have seen this story play out too many times before. Rape is the most falsely filed crime in the US and it immediately puts the accused on the defensive UNLIKE most other crimes.

Even with murder, many people would believe you to be innocent if the evidence were as flimsy as it is in this case.

[WackyKat]

You don't have to "break" anything to me, jerk
You don't know anything about this girl, her sex life, or her relationship with her parents, friends etc.
Yet you want to smear her to protect your sports "hero"
You must be very proud of yourself

[dennisw]

Winona mug shot? Yeeeeeoooowwww! A quintuple bagger.

MOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo......

[cyncooper]

Save the name calling.

It certainly did nothing to strengthen your argument.

[G.Mason]

"Per Jim Robsinson's rules - no naming the defendant. Please pull this thread."

Please pull this!

The chip on your shoulder is as big as a log. Dosen't it get heavy?

Re: your "KantianBurke" page

[octobersky]

LOL!

[Skywalk]

How is she going to risk getting in legal trouble? EVeryone agrees she had sex with Bryant and everyone admits to it.

Now, even if he is acquitted, they can probably never get her in court for falsely accusing Bryant, unless her mom or Pietrack steps forward. And it's possible that only she knows she's making it up.

So there's no possibility of being in trouble for filing this allegation.

And if you're going to employ that argument, why not ask the same question in all false rape/sex abuse claim cases?

Heck, why not ask why people do a lot of things they think they'll get away with?

[cyncooper]

Jackson was with a 12 or 13 year old in both known cases. Not 14, which evidently is important, as the charges involved specifically state "with a child under the age of 14".

[PBRSTREETGANG]

What am I missing?

Perspective?

[KantianBurke]

Who asked you? Buzz off.

[Quilla]

Boy Howdy! I can tell you don't do the grocery shopping at your house.

;-)

[Orangedog]

But then this is the type of evidence that our politically correct legislatures and Judges have decided should be kept from Juries. In a "he said/she said" case such as this, the prior seuxual conduct of both parties is highly relevant. It should not be excluded. If she is sleeping with every Tom Dick and Harry, then you should be able to conclude that she just might sleep with every Kobe that came around as well.

Not to mention what kind of motivation several million dollars can buy. These laws have turned the entire US justice system into a joke. Now all that is needed to send someone to jail for years and take everything he owns is the word of the person who will be taking it.

[Lijahsbubbe]

It used to be that I'd totally ignore the Globe or the Enquirer. Not anymore after the Je$$e story broke.

I agree. They've been ahead of the newspapers on alot of big stories.

[Skywalk]

"I can see the Bryant camp's victim smear campaign is having its desired effect."

I think some of us are getting really tired of hearing how this 'poor girl' is being smeared with the TRUTH. Perhaps that might explain a brief burst in anger on my part.

It would be like if they brought in credible witnesses(even if just for a story not the trial) that showed Bryant had a history of violent sex. I would hardly call that smearing, if it's the truth.

I find it interesting that no matter what comes out, there are certain people who have not changed their opinion.

You can't say I didn't, because for a few weeks I was starting to think that maybe there was a lot of blood(rather than a barely visible spot) and real injuries on her.

But facts will not bother certain people on these threads. And we know why.

[StolarStorm]

However, a nut and a slut can still be a rape victim.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

I think it is possible Kobe is innocent of rape.

That being said, I know nothing about his basketball career and do not worship him as a superstar.

However, it appears that the prosecution's case keeps weakening. Mackey is worth her weight in gold!

[Howlin]

Oh, man, is The Globe every BEHIND on the news curve!

I posted this yesterday at lunch!

To: BunnySlippers; TexKat

Fox News reporting that the accuser had sex with the BELLHOP -- her "outcry" witness -- within a couple of days before this incident.

18 posted on 11/20/2003 12:37 PM EST by Howlin
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[69ConvertibleFirebird]

...Katelyn Faber told about her encounter with Bryant.

Per Jim Robsinson's rules - no naming the defendant.

Is that a picture of her, Katelyn Faber, who is not to be named, in post #2?

[Howlin]

One thing is for sure, us "trial junkies" are sure going to have a lot to watch this winter, eh? :-)

[Howlin]

FYI.

[Lee Heggy]

A guy named 'Pietrack' and a woman with the same name as the college in Animal House...? This is getting too wierd.