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1 posted on 11/22/2003 3:22:09 AM PST by RobFromGa
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To: RobFromGa
Oh no... I need to quickly short all my cat and dog food stocks since sales will now plummet.
2 posted on 11/22/2003 3:30:50 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: RobFromGa
Lyndon B. Bush
4 posted on 11/22/2003 3:51:42 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: RobFromGa
"The Republican-controlled House"

So, even Fox does it?

When the Satancrats had the House and Senate, they were merely "the House" and "the Senate." With Pubbies in the majority, they have become "the Republican-controlled House" and "the Republican-controlled Senate."

If the Republicans fritter away their support through moral cowardice and lose the majority, do you suppose they'll become "the Democrat-controlled House" and "the Democrat-controlled Senate?"

When pigs fly.
5 posted on 11/22/2003 4:02:56 AM PST by dsc
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To: RobFromGa
Also included in this bill:

Medicare legislation moving through Congress would give hospitals at least $1 billion over the next four years to cover the spiraling costs of providing emergency services for undocumented immigrants.

Jon Kyl, R-Arizona authored the original legislation to reimburse hospitals, and he persuaded lawmakers to include the money in the $395 billion Medicare bill. He was among a small group of lawmakers who negotiated the controversial bill.


8 posted on 11/22/2003 4:30:14 AM PST by getgoing
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To: RobFromGa
Shame.

As I have noted elsewhere, even the loyal Bushbots seem absent in the rationalizations on this monstrosity.
9 posted on 11/22/2003 4:36:49 AM PST by RJCogburn ("You've bested no one when you've bested a fool"........Texas Ranger LeBoeuf)
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To: RobFromGa
How does the future privatizaton fit in here?
16 posted on 11/22/2003 5:59:18 AM PST by Principled
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To: RobFromGa
Is the yeas and nays tally available yet?
19 posted on 11/22/2003 6:37:47 AM PST by SMGFan
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To: RobFromGa
But House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said seniors know that her party gave birth to Medicare during the Great Society, adding, "we want to protect it and strengthen it. America's seniors have also known where Republicans stand, for four decades they have waged war on Medicare."

She's got part of that right. Dems will always get credit for this program. No matter how much we try, we can't out spend the libs.

20 posted on 11/22/2003 6:39:39 AM PST by ClintonBeGone
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FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 669
(Republicans in roman; Democrats in italic; Independents underlined)

      H R 1     YEA-AND-NAY     22-NOV-2003   5:53 AM
      QUESTION: On Agreeing to the Conference Report
      BILL TITLE:  Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act

YEAS NAYS PRES NV
REPUBLICAN 204 25    
DEMOCRATIC 16 189    
INDEPENDENT   1    
TOTALS 220 215    

--- YEAS    220 ---

Aderholt Gilchrest Ose
Alexander Gillmor Otter
Bachus Gingrey Oxley
Baker Goode Pearce
Ballenger Goodlatte Peterson (MN)
Bartlett (MD) Goss Peterson (PA)
Barton (TX) Granger Petri
Bass Graves Pickering
Beauprez Green (WI) Pitts
Bereuter Greenwood Platts
Biggert Hall Pombo
Bilirakis Harris Pomeroy
Bishop (UT) Hart Porter
Blackburn Hastert Portman
Blunt Hastings (WA) Pryce (OH)
Boehlert Hayes Putnam
Boehner Hayworth Quinn
Bonilla Hefley Radanovich
Bonner Hensarling Ramstad
Bono Herger Regula
Boozman Hobson Rehberg
Boucher Hoekstra Renzi
Boyd Houghton Reynolds
Bradley (NH) Hulshof Rogers (AL)
Brady (TX) Hunter Rogers (KY)
Brown (SC) Hyde Rogers (MI)
Brown-Waite, Ginny Isakson Rohrabacher
Burgess Issa Ros-Lehtinen
Burns Istook Royce
Burr Janklow Ryan (WI)
Buyer Jenkins Saxton
Calvert John Schrock
Camp Johnson (CT) Scott (GA)
Cannon Johnson (IL) Sensenbrenner
Cantor Johnson, Sam Sessions
Capito Keller Shaw
Carson (OK) Kelly Shays
Carter Kennedy (MN) Sherwood
Castle King (IA) Shimkus
Chocola King (NY) Shuster
Coble Kingston Simmons
Cole Kirk Simpson
Collins Kline Smith (NJ)
Cox Knollenberg Smith (TX)
Cramer Kolbe Souder
Crane LaHood Stearns
Crenshaw Latham Stenholm
Cubin LaTourette Sullivan
Cunningham Leach Sweeney
Davis (TN) Lewis (CA) Tauzin
Davis, Jo Ann Lewis (KY) Taylor (NC)
Davis, Tom Linder Terry
Deal (GA) LoBiondo Thomas
DeLay Lucas (OK) Thornberry
Diaz-Balart, L. Manzullo Tiahrt
Diaz-Balart, M. Marshall Tiberi
Dooley (CA) Matheson Turner (OH)
Doolittle McCotter Upton
Dreier McCrery Vitter
Duncan McHugh Walden (OR)
Dunn McInnis Walsh
Ehlers McKeon Weldon (FL)
English Mica Weldon (PA)
Everett Miller (MI) Weller
Ferguson Miller, Gary Whitfield
Fletcher Murphy Wicker
Foley Myrick Wilson (NM)
Forbes Nethercutt Wilson (SC)
Fossella Neugebauer Wolf
Franks (AZ) Ney Wu
Frelinghuysen Northup Young (AK)
Gallegly Nunes Young (FL)
Gerlach Nussle
Gibbons Osborne
--- NAYS    215 ---

Abercrombie Grijalva Neal (MA)
Ackerman Gutierrez Norwood
Akin Gutknecht Oberstar
Allen Harman Obey
Andrews Hastings (FL) Olver
Baca Hill Ortiz
Baird Hinchey Owens
Baldwin Hinojosa Pallone
Ballance Hoeffel Pascrell
Barrett (SC) Holden Pastor
Becerra Holt Paul
Bell Honda Payne
Berkley Hooley (OR) Pelosi
Berman Hostettler Pence
Berry Hoyer Price (NC)
Bishop (GA) Inslee Rahall
Bishop (NY) Israel Rangel
Blumenauer Jackson (IL) Reyes
Boswell Jackson-Lee (TX) Rodriguez
Brady (PA) Jefferson Ross
Brown (OH) Johnson, E. B. Rothman
Brown, Corrine Jones (NC) Roybal-Allard
Burton (IN) Jones (OH) Ruppersberger
Capps Kanjorski Rush
Capuano Kaptur Ryan (OH)
Cardin Kennedy (RI) Ryun (KS)
Cardoza Kildee Sabo
Carson (IN) Kilpatrick Sanchez, Linda T.
Case Kind Sanchez, Loretta
Chabot Kleczka Sanders
Clay Kucinich Sandlin
Clyburn Lampson Schakowsky
Conyers Langevin Schiff
Cooper Lantos Scott (VA)
Costello Larsen (WA) Serrano
Crowley Larson (CT) Shadegg
Culberson Lee Sherman
Cummings Levin Skelton
Davis (AL) Lewis (GA) Slaughter
Davis (CA) Lipinski Smith (MI)
Davis (FL) Lofgren Smith (WA)
Davis (IL) Lowey Snyder
DeFazio Lucas (KY) Solis
DeGette Lynch Spratt
Delahunt Majette Stark
DeLauro Maloney Strickland
DeMint Markey Stupak
Deutsch Matsui Tancredo
Dicks McCarthy (MO) Tanner
Dingell McCarthy (NY) Tauscher
Doggett McCollum Taylor (MS)
Doyle McDermott Thompson (CA)
Edwards McGovern Thompson (MS)
Emanuel McIntyre Tierney
Emerson McNulty Toomey
Engel Meehan Towns
Eshoo Meek (FL) Turner (TX)
Etheridge Meeks (NY) Udall (CO)
Evans Menendez Udall (NM)
Farr Michaud Van Hollen
Fattah Millender-McDonald Velazquez
Feeney Miller (FL) Visclosky
Filner Miller (NC) Wamp
Flake Miller, George Waters
Ford Mollohan Watson
Frank (MA) Moore Watt
Frost Moran (KS) Waxman
Garrett (NJ) Moran (VA) Weiner
Gephardt Murtha Wexler
Gonzalez Musgrave Woolsey
Gordon Nadler Wynn
Green (TX) Napolitano



28 posted on 11/22/2003 7:09:48 AM PST by NittanyLion (Character Counts)
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But House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said seniors know that her party gave birth to Medicare during the Great Society,

Pride in giving birth among the Democrats? I never thought I'd see this day!

31 posted on 11/22/2003 7:12:10 AM PST by cgk (Kraut, 1989: We must brace ourselves for disquisitions on peer pressure, adolescent anomie & rage.)
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Let's not misunderestimate Dubya. This is the perfect set up for the dems to filibuster.... AGAIN!
35 posted on 11/22/2003 7:31:32 AM PST by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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Sheesh. Now I won't have to give my grandmother all those kethup packets I've been saving for her. I guess she'll have money for food now.
61 posted on 11/22/2003 9:09:05 AM PST by Beck_isright ("Al Franken" is Latin for "dung fly")
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But House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said

Heh, I keep forgetting about her and then every now and then her name pops up out of the blue.

69 posted on 11/22/2003 9:35:00 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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From the New York Post:

November 19, 2003 -- DAN Aykroyd is no fan of the bureaucratic bungling and cut-rate care of socialized medicine. "One place you don't want to get sick is Quebec," the Canadian actor advised us after a screening of Denys Arcand's "The Barbarian Invasions." "It's all socialized. Believe me, you don't want to go to a hospital there.

70 posted on 11/22/2003 9:38:46 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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For this, the weak-kneed Republicans were willing to fight. (Not the Intelligence-Memo letter leaked by the democrats...etc) Sigh... Big government lite.
75 posted on 11/22/2003 9:53:56 AM PST by Libertina ("We're not establishing intimacy with these people, we want to crush them." Rush on rats.)
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Dang, I am in shock for the first time since the Bush 2000 victory ... I saw the number "218 AGAINST" and thought it was defeated. That was 3am.

82 posted on 11/22/2003 10:13:08 AM PST by WOSG (The only thing that will defeat us is defeatism itself)
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Wow all 435 members voted. That doesn't happen often.
117 posted on 11/22/2003 12:09:28 PM PST by Impy (Don't you fall into the trap, democrats are full of crap.)
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When the $35-per-month Medicare premium increase kicks in, the greedy grannies are likely to start draping themselves over Tom DeLay's car hood.

Unfortunately, with this not kicking in fully until 2006, I doubt the impact will hit the public consciousness soon enough to outrage them. It'd still be unlikely to do any good, with the bureaucracy having been built up to administer this.

121 posted on 11/22/2003 12:36:28 PM PST by Greybird ("War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce)
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Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security are already the lion's share of this countries spending problem. To this we now add a new entitlement.

How much is privatization going to save us and when is it going to kick in?

175 posted on 11/22/2003 8:55:22 PM PST by FreeReign
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President Bush used up some capital to get this passed in the House. Smart move. Now all eyes are focused squarely on the senate. Now Frist is going to move fast for a vote. More than likely the Dims will filibuster. AARP has come out for it so the Dims are on record as being against this bill, i.e. against the elderly. What happens now, pass or no, is a winning strategy for Bush. He gets credit either way, and more than likely it will not pass in the Senate (thanks to Dims and some Pubbies) and some constinuencies will be very pissed. Mr. Bush will not be using up any capital on this one. The microscope will be on the Dims obstruction game and all the other obstruction, i.e., judicial nominees, will be in sharp focus to be seen clearly by the whole. WIN/WIN.
188 posted on 11/23/2003 6:01:43 AM PST by maxter
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