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Youngster dreams of returning to Mexico to enjoy the fruits of his labor
Napa News ^ | Sunday, November 23, 2003

Posted on 11/23/2003 1:40:03 PM PST by yonif

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1 posted on 11/23/2003 1:40:04 PM PST by yonif
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To: yonif
My, my, isn't that sweet. Driving without a license, has all his family around him, is treated like a king, doesn't pay taxes, and makes more than I do. Welcome to the United States of Mexico.
2 posted on 11/23/2003 1:50:08 PM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: yonif
He pulled out a receipt showing the earnings he was able to send home one week: $1,000 for the month, which his parents have put into a savings account. Jose said they haven't used any of his savings, though he's told them they can. Jose keeps $400, which mostly goes for room and board at the farmworker center.

All that untaxed money going south of the border, while citizens/taxpayers of this country pay for social services, health care, etc. for non-taxpaying illegals. Anywhere in the Southwestern U.S., just walk into the county hospital, any government welfare office, any free services office at all, for that matter, and bring your English/Spanish dictionary with you. And our government does nothing about our non-existant borders, although you might have thought 9/ll would make them more vigilent. But that would also stop the millions of illegals that provide cheap labor for businesses.

3 posted on 11/23/2003 2:01:32 PM PST by xJones
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx
ping
4 posted on 11/23/2003 2:09:27 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: yonif
Well, I am confident that even though he drives illegally, without a license, this false documented criminal, surely buys automobile insurance against the event that some American boob might involve him in an accident.

This is the classic problem, however, who would otherwise pick these crops? The answer is that we must FIRST control the border and only then, allow the NEXT half million guest workers who follow our administrative requirements to apply. Any "consideration" to the law breakers already here means that another six million will come north so as to qualify for the NEXT amnesty. Remember, with fake documents, Yankee pensions, benefits, and cash can be obtained and, even, mailed back to home in Mexico.

5 posted on 11/23/2003 2:35:08 PM PST by Tacis
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Remember, these is NO SUCH THING as a job that people won't do. However, there are jobs that cannot attract workers AT THE WAGES THAT ARE BEING OFFERED. If these farmers were willing to pay an attractive wage there would be no problem in getting people to do the work. Instead, they offer a third world wage, and then get third world people to do the job. Then, when those workers cannot afford insurance, or medical care, or education or housing or food, they go on the public dole at taxpayer expense. This has to end soon, or there will be an extreme reaction by the majority population of this country. I'm not talking protests, I'm talking civil war.

No, I don't want to see civil war in this country, I want to see rule of law prevail. As of now our immigration laws are being completely ignored by our government, our industries and by the illegals themselves. How long before Joe Sixpack decides to ignore the rest of our laws? How long before the average citizen decides to give up on obeying the laws, and subscribes to the concept of "do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"? We are teetering on the edge of total catastrophe, and the results will NOT be pretty.
6 posted on 11/23/2003 2:43:03 PM PST by Elliott Jackalope (We send our kids to Iraq to fight for them, and they send our jobs to India. Now THAT'S gratitude!)
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To: Tacis
If we ended all the BS welfare laws, including section eight and all those single welfare mommies were calling their "baby daddies" to say that Jr. was hungry and where was the food then perhaps we would find more native born people suddenly willing to work. Food is a great motivator.
7 posted on 11/23/2003 2:43:36 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Elliott Jackalope; archy
I start to wonder that myself.
8 posted on 11/23/2003 2:45:32 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Tacis
This is the classic problem, however, who would otherwise pick these crops?

Anyone. The farmers would just have to bid the wage to something that legitimate citizens would work for.

And that would not entail any significant rise in the cost of produce. The actual labor cost of a head of lettuce has been estimated at around 15 cents. The wage rate could be doubled and Mrs. Soccer Mommy in St. Louis would barely notice the increase. For that matter, there are plently of labor saving machinery designs for high value agriculture which are not implemented because the cost of illegal labor simply makes it not economical. Instead of mechanization, agriculture is instead going to Mexicanization.

The fact that illegals are basically given carte blanche to scurry across the American landscape in search of temporary labor has to do with the political calculation that if we don't allow that to happen, a social catastrophe will occur in Mexico (that's true). The fact that the policy serves the needs of Mexico's despicable ruling class at the expense of the citizens of the United States merely shows the contempt in which we are held by our leaders.

Illegal immigration is not inevitable, it's a function of government policy. Were it to stop, there would be a net positive effect on the economy of the United States, not a net negative as is routinely asserted.

9 posted on 11/23/2003 2:50:25 PM PST by Regulator
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"Girls down there fall in love if you have money," Jose said.

Someone needs to tell Jose that its universal, not just Mexico

10 posted on 11/23/2003 2:54:57 PM PST by Go Gordon
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To: Regulator
"Instead of mechanization, agriculture is instead going to Mexicanization."

That is a GREAT line! I hope you don't mind if I start using that one myself! Good job!

11 posted on 11/23/2003 2:55:56 PM PST by Elliott Jackalope (We send our kids to Iraq to fight for them, and they send our jobs to India. Now THAT'S gratitude!)
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Ok, now it's getting to be a good discussion...

12 posted on 11/23/2003 2:56:49 PM PST by HiJinx (Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's Grace. Come home when the job's done. We'll be here.)
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To: Elliott Jackalope
Remember, these is NO SUCH THING as a job that people won't do. However, there are jobs that cannot attract workers AT THE WAGES THAT ARE BEING OFFERED.

True. I don't know who keeps spouting all this nonsense about Americans being too prissy to get their hands dirty. For a wage they can live on, Americans will clean toilets, pick crops, shovel manure, etc. But, we won't do it for 50 cents an hour. We can't.

13 posted on 11/23/2003 3:07:36 PM PST by schmelvin
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To: Jack Black
If we ended all the BS welfare laws, including section eight and all those single welfare mommies were calling their "baby daddies" to say that Jr. was hungry and where was the food then perhaps we would find more native born people suddenly willing to work. Food is a great motivator.

I agree! Jack Black for President!

14 posted on 11/23/2003 3:11:20 PM PST by janetgreen (PRESIDENT BUSH - SEND THE BILLS TO BILLIONAIRE VICENTE FOX)
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To: schmelvin
Your exactly correct on that - we won't do it for 50 cents an hour. We can't. My neice used to have a cleaning business in Park City, Utah. Thanks to all the cheap illegals in the area, she had to fold up the business. So there goes another not so glamourous job to an illegal economy.
15 posted on 11/23/2003 3:27:19 PM PST by Issaquahking
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To: yonif
He was in Napa County for harvest, one of the toughest in years.

The reason the year was so tough is that there is so many illegals now that supply (illegals) have overwhelmed demand (citizens). Simple economics.

Now go home Jose.

16 posted on 11/23/2003 3:31:07 PM PST by Missouri
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To: mtbopfuyn
A bit of irony here. The subcontractor my builder used to paint my house was a Mexican who dreamed of owning a pig farm in Mexico. About 8 or 10 years he sold his busisness, went back to Mexico and converted around $300,000 U.S. into pesos. Before he could buy his farm the government devalued the peso and he lost about 1/3 of his money.
17 posted on 11/23/2003 3:33:58 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Missouri
Don't worry, Jose will be right back with a new bride so we can pay for all his babies.
18 posted on 11/23/2003 3:48:54 PM PST by texastoo
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600 bucks in one week, folks.

Oh, the poor illegals....

19 posted on 11/23/2003 3:52:53 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Don't avoid. Read Joe Guzzardi.)
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Jose will be right back with a new bride so we can pay for all his babies.

Just damn.

This has got to stop.

20 posted on 11/23/2003 4:12:10 PM PST by Missouri
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