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The Mystery of Marina Oswald
Stratfor ^ | 24 November 2003 | Dr. George Friedman

Posted on 11/24/2003 5:26:15 PM PST by Bobibutu

THE STRATFOR WEEKLY 24 November 2003

by Dr. George Friedman

The Mystery of Marina Oswald

Summary

With the passing of the 40th anniversary of the JFK assassination, Stratfor pauses to consider one of the less- examined aspects of the case: Marina Oswald. Her connections to the Soviet intelligence apparatus and odd marriage to Lee Harvey Oswald are seldom factored into any theories surrounding the assassination. However, the facts of the case make it clear that the Soviet government wanted Marina Prusakova and Oswald together in the United States.

Analysis

The 40th anniversary of President John F. Kennedy's assassination has prompted the usual round of articles and TV programs examining the assassination and theories of what actually happened. The speculation is endless -- not because people are searching for meaning in a meaningless world, as one TV program suggested. Rather, the speculation is endless because the official explanation offered by the Warren Commission is difficult to believe. That may have been the way it happened, but it is not a genuinely satisfactory explanation.

We don't have problems with the idea that Lee Harvey Oswald was a shooter, but we do have problems with the idea that he was the lone gunman. There are four crucial points that, for us at least, make it extremely unlikely that Oswald was operating alone:

1. Oswald had a beautiful, unobstructed shot from the Texas Schoolbook Depository building in Dallas as the presidential motorcade approached. He passed on a perfect shot, choosing instead to allow the motorcade to turn left and proceed below his window, and then took a much more difficult shot with his view partially obscured by a tree. Why would he have done that if he were acting alone?

2. The idea that he took three shots with his bolt-action Italian rifle in the elapsed time (a few seconds) -- taking out Kennedy with the head shot -- is just outside the box of credibility. No matter how we strain, we can't get there.

3. The trajectory of the bullet that was supposed to have hit the president and Texas Gov. John Connolly similarly strains credibility.

4. The idea that Jack Ruby, a strip club owner and connected guy, went to the Dallas police station on an impulse and was so overwhelmed by uncontrollable rage at the death of his president that he shot Lee Harvey Oswald strains our credulity beyond its limits. Ruby was a lot of things, but sentimental was not one of them. Ruby looked out for Ruby. Whatever brought him to the station and to kill Oswald was not uncontrolled emotion.

There are lots of other things, but for us, these four issues -- taken together -- make it very difficult to buy the Warren report. We can probably explain away any one of these aspects, but the four things taken together with other anomalous facts create a critical mass of doubt.

The only strength of the Warren Commission report is the weakness of the alternative explanations:

1. Kennedy was killed by the American Mafia because Bobby Kennedy came after them, despite the fact that Joseph Kennedy had cut a deal with Sam Giancana over the West Virginia primary and the graveyard vote in Illinois. This is a reasonable explanation, except for the fact that it leaves no explanation for Oswald's role in the president's killing.

2. Kennedy was killed by Cuban Intelligence because the Kennedys tried to kill Fidel Castro. This is an interesting theory, except that it doesn't explain where Jack Ruby fits in.

3. Kennedy was killed by the CIA because he wanted to pull out of Vietnam. This one suffers from the fact that the evidence that Kennedy wanted to pull out of Vietnam is pretty skimpy and the greater fact that, in 1963, Vietnam was one of a dozen foreign policy issues out there. The idea that the agency was so passionate about Vietnam that operatives would kill the president over it is just silly.

4. Cuban exiles killed Kennedy over the Bay of Pigs and the pledge not to invade after the Cuban missile crisis. The problem, again, is Oswald.

5. Hybrids of more than one of these theories. These make for interesting reading, but the problem is that all of the hybrids wind up involving dozens of people from multiple groups, none with any reason to trust each other. How do you keep a hybrid from leaking?

The only way some of these theories work is if Lee Harvey Oswald was not involved or somehow was, in his words, made into a "patsy." For any of the conspiracy theories to work, Oswald would either have had to be an innocent victim, had someone else masquerading as him or been part of a conspiracy that his own background didn't easily bring him into. It really all comes down to who Lee Harvey Oswald was -- a subject that has garnered endless speculation.

Far less speculation has gone into what is, in our view, a significantly neglected aspect of this story: Marina Oswald. From Stratfor's standpoint, she is at least one of the keys to whatever happened on Nov. 22, 1963. Our image of Marina Oswald, dating back to the days following the assassination, is that of a simple, frightened young woman, stunned by what had happened and in way over her head. That image of a more or less innocent bystander has remained intact for 40 years, even though the facts have consistently pointed to her being a much more important figure in the story.

Marina Oswald -- born Marina Prusakova -- met Lee Harvey Oswald in Minsk, where he worked in an electronics factory after having defected to the Soviet Union in 1959. She was then 19 years old. Her father had been killed in the war; she lived with her stepfather in Archangel, in the far north of Russia, before moving to Moldova as a small child and then to Leningrad at age 12. In 1955, she entered the Pharmacy Technikum for what the Warren Report called "special training." She received a diploma in pharmacology in June 1959 and then was assigned to a job in a warehouse, which she quit after a day.

Two months later, she moved to live with her uncle in Minsk, the capital of Belarus. Her uncle was a colonel in the MVD -- the Russian Interior Ministry security service. At that time, the agency -- which was a mixture of a national police force and the FBI -- carried out several functions, from running large parts of the Gulag to serving as an internal security force. According to the Warren Commission, Col. Prusakov was head of the local lumber industry, which would have certainly made him part of the Gulag apparatus and therefore part of the security structure. With a rank of colonel, he clearly had substantial responsibilities. According to the Warren Commission, Prusakov "... had one of the best apartments in a building reserved for MVD employees."

In Minsk, Marina finally got a job in the pharmacy of a hospital. At the same time, she joined Komsomol, the Communist youth organization -- a fairly common thing to do and something that her uncle, given his standing in the government apparatus, certainly would have expected her to do. She had a good many friends when, seven months after moving to Minsk, she was introduced to Lee Harvey Oswald. They had one date -- at a dance. Immediately after the dance, Oswald was taken ill and checked into a hospital, though not the one where Marina worked. Marina visited him often in the hospital often, although they had met only twice prior to his hospitalization. She was able to visit him outside of regular visiting hours, according to the Warren Commission, because of her uniform. Oswald was hospitalized from March 30 until April 11. It is not clear what illness kept him hospitalized for almost two weeks, but he was cared for at an ear, nose and throat clinic: He apparently had the mother of all sinus headaches.

According to Marina's testimony to the Warren Commission, Oswald visited her regularly at her uncle's apartment after his release. The Commission makes a point of saying that "they were apparently not disturbed by the fact that he was an American and did not disapprove of her seeing him" This is an important point. Oswald was an American defector, clearly regarded with suspicion by Soviet Intelligence. Marina's uncle was a colonel in the MVD. Having American defectors visit his apartment in 1961 should have concerned him a lot. He would certainly report it to his superior. An American FBI official entertaining his niece's Soviet defector boyfriend in 1961 would certainly be cautious about its effect on his pension; however, Prusakov apparently was not concerned.

Now it gets interesting. On April 20, a little more than a month since their first meeting, Oswald proposes to Marina. She accepts and they are married on April 30. Let's pause here. Marina Oswald is an attractive young woman. She holds a diploma in pharmacology from a first-rate technical school in Leningrad. Her uncle is a senior official in the MVD. Lee Harvey Oswald is a foreign defector, without any real future and -- we are handicapped here by our glandular bias -- not a great looker or sharp dresser. But he must have been a hell of a dancer, because they were married about six weeks after they met with much of the courtship having taken place in a hospital.

OK -- it may have been uncontrollable love at first sight. Stranger things have happened, we suppose. The problem was that in order for Marina to marry Oswald, they needed to get special permission from the state, because he was a foreigner. That would have been true if he were the head of the Polish Communist Party. But Oswald wasn't just a foreigner, he was an American defector. Given the Soviet bureaucracy, someone in Moscow was going to have to sign off on this one -- and it had to have kicked off one heck of a security review in her uncle's office, but permission nevertheless was granted in 10 days.

If that is hard to believe, try the next one. After about a month of marriage, Oswald tells Marina that he's tired of the Soviet Union and wants to go home. She apparently says "whatever" and they start making arrangements to leave the Soviet Union. At this point, she told the Warren Commission, her aunt and uncle became upset and stopped speaking to her. A great deal has been made of the U.S. Embassy's willingness to allow Oswald to return to the United States, but not nearly enough has been made of the fact that the Soviets permitted not only Oswald, but also Marina, to leave the country.

In October, while this was going on, Marina decided to take her annual vacation. According to the commission, Oswald and Marina agreed that she needed "a change of scenery." Having been married less than six months, she took a three-week vacation by herself to visit an aunt in Kharkov. Kharkov in October is not the greatest place to visit, but off she went.

When she returned, she pursued her exit visa. She met with an MVD colonel, Nicolay Aksenov, who had to approve the exit permit. Marina thought that the interview might have been granted because her uncle was also an MVD colonel, but that makes little sense if her uncle opposed her departure. On Dec. 25, 1961, about six weeks after applying, she received her exit visa from the Soviet Union, as did Oswald. Marina told the Commission that she was surprised to receive permission. That is an understatement -- what happened was unheard-of. Although the Warren Commission tried to argue that these things were not that uncommon, they just were.

Let's recap here:

1. Marina, part of the Soviet upper-middle class, reasonably educated and an attractive young woman, meets Lee Harvey Oswald and is so smitten by him that she agrees to marry him in a little over a month -- two weeks of which he spent courting her from a hospital bed.

2. The Soviet government grants Marina permission to marry him in the span of 10 days, despite the fact that this is an MVD colonel's niece marrying a U.S. defector.

3. Oswald immediately decides to head back to the United States, and in spite of her uncle's supposed objections -- and Prusakov could have stopped this dead in its tracks if he wanted -- she is granted permission to leave the Soviet Union in the company of an American defector. The time between her formal request and receiving permission is a matter of weeks.

If the Warren Commission has the facts right -- and we think they do -- then this is clear: the Soviet government wanted Marina and Oswald to marry and they wanted them to go together to the United States. That is crystal clear. Now, we take a leap, but a reasonable one: The only agency in the Soviet Union with the ability and interest to get this done was the KGB. If Marina wasn't KGB, she did one hell of an imitation.

Endless questions flow from this, ranging from what the mission was to why the U.S. embassy permitted Marina into the country. This now enters into the realm of speculation. However, one thing is clear to us: Any theory as to what happened on Nov. 22, 1963, that does not take into careful account the role of Marina Oswald is inherently flawed. This includes the Warren Commission's own findings. If Lee Harvey Oswald killed John F. Kennedy, there has been no adequate explanation of Marina Oswald's role in this.

The only way to dismiss the Marina question is to make the following three assertions:

1. You have to believe that Marina, the attractive MVD princess, took one look at Oswald and said, "I've got to have that man."

2. You have to argue that obtaining permission in 10 days for an MVD colonel's live-in niece to marry an American defector was no big deal.

3. You have to argue that getting an exit permit from the Soviet Union for Marina in the space of six weeks in 1961 was no big deal.

If ever there was a cooked-up marriage, this was it. Now, how this fits into the assassination story is too speculative to bother with -- but that no explanation is possible without building this into the story is obvious.

There has been tremendous focus on Oswald's stay in the Soviet Union and speculation that his defection might have been part of a CIA plot. That is not inconceivable, although the purpose of the plot is opaque. There has been focus on Washington's decision to readmit Oswald, even though he had renounced his U.S. citizenship. All of this has focused attention on the CIA, but there has not been equal attention paid to the extraordinary story of Marina Prusakova's marriage to Oswald and her exit from the Soviet Union.

This does not necessarily clear things up, but in our mind, it sets an additional hurdle that any theory must pass over. The eagerness of the Warren Commission to pass over the strange marriage of these two is one of the reasons we have little confidence in the analysis it contains. The fact of the marriage raises questions of whether Oswald was, simply in the context of his marriage, involved in a conspiracy. If he was the only gunman -- which we doubt -- he still was not alone. .................................................................


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: assassination; conspiracy; jfk; marinaoswald; oswald; stratfor
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1 posted on 11/24/2003 5:26:16 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: Bobibutu
Let's add one more improbability to the excellent and rational post you provided: The defector Nosenko claimed the "KGB had NO INTEREST in LHO."

Add the LHO file to the other real KGB files I would love to see: Bill Clinton, Richard Holbrooke, Strobe Talbot, Al Gore Sr. and Jr. and a couple of hundred others!

2 posted on 11/24/2003 5:35:26 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: Bobibutu
Dr. Friedman, for those of you in Cen- Tex, can be heard on 590 KLBJ every Monday morning at 8:30
3 posted on 11/24/2003 5:37:37 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Tagline pending a review by the officials.)
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To: Bobibutu
Dr. Friedman, for those of you in Cen- Tex, can be heard on 590 KLBJ every Monday morning at 8:30
4 posted on 11/24/2003 5:37:48 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Tagline pending a review by the officials.)
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To: Bobibutu
What happened to Marina?
5 posted on 11/24/2003 5:40:51 PM PST by spyone
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To: spyone
I believe she is still alive as is her and Lee's two children.
6 posted on 11/24/2003 5:48:06 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Kenny Bunk
"Add the LHO file to the other real KGB files I would love to see: Bill Clinton, Richard Holbrooke, Strobe Talbot, Al Gore Sr. and Jr. and a couple of hundred others!"

You may just get your wish ...


Scientists 'unshredding' files of East German secret police
November 22, 2003

BY KATE CONNOLLY

BERLIN -- It is the most complex jigsaw puzzle in the world, 600 million shreds of paper that contain the secrets of decades of communist espionage.

Now German scientists have developed a highly sophisticated machine that will "unshred" the files of the East German secret police, the Stasi. All could be revealed within five years.

The E-Puzzler, developed by Berlin's Fraunhofer Institute for Design Technology, will seek to rebuild the spy records that were shredded by hand into 16,000 sacks during the final days of the communist regime after shredding machines broke down.

For the past eight years, 15 workers -- a mix of ex-Stasi employees and clerks from a defunct asylum seekers' center -- have been painstakingly sticking paper shreds together with tape and tweezers.

Working at a rate of around 10 documents a day, 500,000 pages -- 250 sacks -- have been manually reconstructed since 1995. Experts estimated it would take them 400 years to complete the thankless task.

The E-Puzzler is set to reduce that to around half a decade at an annual cost of nearly $12 million, if the government approves. Its software works by identifying the characteristics of the paper scraps and grouping them together.

Once pieced together, the documents, largely the records on the 174,000 unofficial employees of the Stasi and the estimated 6 million they spied on in the 1970s and 1980s, are expected to be of huge significance.

Historians say they are likely to reveal everything from the crimes committed by the secret police to love affairs between agents. They will probably tarnish a number of reputations in the process.

Daily Telegraph
7 posted on 11/24/2003 5:48:47 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: Bobibutu
The problem with any conspiracy theory is that nobody in their right mind would choose a flake like Lee Harvey Oswald to pull off a stunt like this. Especially not the Soviets.

Try again, Stratfor.

8 posted on 11/24/2003 5:51:36 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: spyone
It is my understanding tht she remained in this country. Scary, if true.
9 posted on 11/24/2003 5:53:02 PM PST by Dante3
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To: spyone
She's now 61, and living near Dallas, according to this recent article:

http://tampatrib.com/News/MGA2VLZ9BND.html
10 posted on 11/24/2003 5:53:20 PM PST by LouD
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To: Dog Gone
People like to come up with wild conspiracy theories because they simply cannot accept that one lone loser nutjob has the power to literally change the world with one pump of his index finger.
11 posted on 11/24/2003 5:55:02 PM PST by ambrose
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To: Allan
Bump
12 posted on 11/24/2003 5:55:15 PM PST by Allan
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To: Bobibutu
However, the facts of the case make it clear that the Soviet government wanted Marina Prusakova and Oswald together in the United States.

THIS is in direct contradiction as the interview with a KGB head recalled on the Frontline program ...

OSWALD was identified as being of little use, and if INDEED there to 'spy' "this would have been a poor reflection CIA and FBI" ...

13 posted on 11/24/2003 5:58:53 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: Dog Gone
>>...nobody in their right mind would choose a flake like Lee Harvey Oswald to pull off a stunt like this...<<

At least not by himself.

14 posted on 11/24/2003 5:59:17 PM PST by FReepaholic (Never Forget: www.september-11-videos.com)
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To: will1776
for those of you in Cen- Tex, can be heard on 590 KLBJ

KLBJ can be heard up here in Nor-Tex on a car radio easily - if you're in McKinney some adjacent channel splatter can be expected from KMCK/620 ...

15 posted on 11/24/2003 6:00:52 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: spyone
Some time in the mid or late 60s Marina married a Texas Instruments electronic technician. It was a minor news story because they eloped to a small nearby town to dodge the press. I have no idea if they are still married.
16 posted on 11/24/2003 6:06:35 PM PST by 19th LA Inf
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To: _Jim
Yeah. We sometimes visit family in OK. We can hear 590 up to the border. In fact, last year, at the beginning of the college football season, I picked up WOAI San Antonio up in Enid.
17 posted on 11/24/2003 6:07:03 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Tagline pending a review by the officials.)
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To: tscislaw
At least not by himself.

Not even with professional help. For something as important as a planned killing of a US President by a cunning adversary, nobody like Oswald would be the centerpiece.

He wouldn't be reliable, for one. And there was no guarantee that Jack Ruby would have gotten a fatal shot in.

The way the story unfolded definitely feeds the conspiracy theories, but only in hindsight.

18 posted on 11/24/2003 6:08:08 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Bobibutu
Excellent article, BOOKMARKED, for future reference, too!
19 posted on 11/24/2003 6:08:12 PM PST by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary? Me Neither!!!!)
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To: Bobibutu
Something else to add:

Marina Oswald Porter's
04/96 Letter to the ARRB

Assassination Records Review Board Hearing in 
Los Angeles

LOS ANGELES, CA - September 17, 1996 --- The 
Assassination Records Review Board was given 17 
boxes of never-before-seen documents belonging
to the late J. Lee Rankin, General Counsel for 
the Warren Commission, by his son this week.

Testifying before the ARRB in a Public Hearing
in Los Angeles, James Rankin, the son of J. Lee
Rankin, said his family found the boxes about 
six months ago.

These documents and other materials were offered
to the ARRB, a federal commission established 
to collect documents on the JFK assassination.

The ARRB also made public a request from Marina
Oswald Porter, widow of Lee Harvey Oswald, asking
the board to investigate his involvement with 
the FBI. (Reprinted below.)

"I definitely think that Lee Oswald did not kill 
President Kennedy," she wrote. "I think he was 
given up to pacify people as a patsy...I believe
that the documents I have requested will be 
eye-openers."

Also testifying this week were:

- David Belin, former Assistant Counsel to the 
  Warren Commission;

- James DiEugenio, author of DESTINY BETRAYED: 
  JFK, CUBA AND THE GARRISON CASE;

- Eric Hamburg, co-Producer of the Oliver Stone 
  film, NIXON, and a Congressional staff assistant
  involved in the passage of the President John 
  F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection
  Act of 1992;

- Wesley Liebeler, former Assistant Counsel to 
  the Warren Commission;

- David Lifton, author of BEST EVIDENCE: DISGUISE 
  AND DECEPTION IN THE ASSASSINATION OF JOHN F. 
  KENNEDY; 

- Robert Tanenbaum, former Deputy Counsel for the 
  House Select Committee on Assassinations and 
  author of CORRUPTION OF BLOOD; and 

- Steven Tilley, who oversees the JFK Collection 
  at the National Archives.

ARRB Board Chair John Tunheim and Board Members 
William L. Joyce, Dr. Anna K. Nelson, and Kermit 
L. Hall were present (Board Member Henry Graff 
was unable to attend), as were ARRB Executive 
Director David G. Marwell, Press & Public Affairs 
Officer Tom Samoluk, Press & Public Affairs 
Assistant Eileen Sullivan, and Administration 
Officer Tracy Shycoff.  - Clint Bradford


===============================================
Marina Oswald Porter's 04/96 Letter to the ARRB
===============================================

April 19, 1996

Mr. John Tunheim, Chairman
JFK Assassination Records Review Board
600 E Street N.W., Second Floor
Washington, D.C. 20530
(Certified Mail No. P 271 942 632)

Dear Mr. Tunheim:

I am writing to you regarding the release of still 
classified documents related to the assassination 
of President Kennedy and to my former husband, 
Lee Harvey Oswald.

Specifically, I am writing to ask about documents 
I have learned of from a recent book and from a 
story in the Washington Post by the authors of the
same book (as well as other documents they have
described to me).  The book reviews Dallas police, 
FBI, and CIA files released since 1992, and 
places them in the context of previously known 
information.  I would like to know what the Review
Board is doing to obtain the following:

1. The Dallas field office and headquarters FBI 
reports on the arrests of Donnell D. Whitter and
Lawrence R. Miller in Dallas on November 18, 1963
with a carload of stolen U.S. army weapons.  I  
believe that Lee Oswald was the FBI informant who
made these arrests possible.  I would also like 
to know what your board has done to obtain the 
reports of the U.S. Marshal and the U.S. Army on 
the same arrests, and the burglary these men were
suspected of.

2. The records of the FBI interrogations of John 
Franklin Elrod, John Forrester Gedney and Harold
Doyle (the latter men were previously known as 
two of the "three tramps") in the Dallas jail
November 22-24, 1963.  All of these men have 
stated that they were interrogated during that
time by the FBI.

3. The official explanation of why the arrest 
records for Mr. Elrod, Mr. Gedney and Mr. Doyle,
as well as for Daniel Wayne Douglas and Gus
Abrams were placed "under federal seal" in the 
Dallas Police Records Division for 26 years as 
described by Dallas City Archives supervisor
Laura McGhee to the FBI in 1992.

4. The FULL records of the interrogation of Lee 
Harvey Oswald, including his interrogation in 
the presence of John Franklin Elrod as described
by Elrod in an FBI report dated August 11, 1964.

5. The reports of army intelligence agent Ed J.
Coyle on his investigation of Captain George 
Nonte, John Thomas Masen, Donnell D. Whitter, 
Lawrence R. Miller, and/or Jack Ruby.  I am also 
requesting that you obtain agent Coyle's reports
as army liason for presidential protection on 
November 22, 1963 (as described by Coyle's 
commanding officer Col. Robert Jones in sworn 
testimony to the House Select Committee on 
Assassinations).  If the army does not 
immediately produce these documents, they 
should be required to produce agent Coyle to
explain what happened to his reports.

6. Secret Service reports and tapes of that 
agency's investigation of Father Walter 
Machann and Silvia Odio in 1963-64.

7. Reports of the FBI investigation of Cuban 
exiles in Dallas, to include known but still 
classified documents on Fermin de Goicochea
Sanchez, Father Walter Machann and the Dallas 
Diocese Catholic Cuban Relocation Committee.
These would include informant files for Father
Machann and/or reports of interviews of Father
Machann by Dallas FBI agent W. Heitman.

8. The full particulars and original of the 
teletype received by Mr. William Walter in the
New Orleans FBI office on the  morning of
November 17, 1963, warning of a possible 
assassination attempt on President Kennedy in
Dallas.  I now believe that my former husband
met with the Dallas FBI on November 16, 1963, 
and provided informant information on which 
this teletype was based.

9. A full report of Lee Harvey Oswald's visit 
to the Dallas FBI office on November 16, 1963.

10. A full account of FBI agent James P. 
Hosty's claim (in his recent book, ASSIGNMENT:
OSWALD) that Lee Harvey Oswald knew of a planned
"paramilitary invasion of Cuba" by "a group of 
right wing Cuban exiles in outlying areas of New
Orleans."  We now know that such an invasion
was indeed planned by a Cuban group operating on 
CIA payroll in Miami, New Orleans, and Dallas--
the same group infiltrated by Lee Oswald.  We
know this information ONLY from documents 
released since 1992, as described in the book I
have mentioned.  On what basis did agent Hosty
believe Lee "had learned" of these plans, unless 
Lee himself told him this?  I am therefore 
specifically requesting the release of the 
informant report that Lee Oswald provided to 
agent Hosty and/or other FBI personnel on this 
intelligence information.

The time for the Review Board to obtain and 
release the most important documents related to 
the assassination of President Kennedy is running
out.  At the time of the assassination of this 
great president whom I loved, I was misled by 
the "evidence" presented to me by government
authorities and I assisted in the conviction of 
Lee Harvey Oswald as the assassin.  From the new
information now available, I am now convinced 
that he was an FBI informant and believe that he 
did not kill President Kennedy.  It is time for 
Americans to know their full history.  On this 
day when I and all Americans are grieving for the
victims of Oklahoma City, I am also thinking of my 
children and grandchildren, and of all American 
children, when I insist that your board give the 
highest priority to the release of the documents 
I have listed.  This is the duty you were charged 
with by law.  Anything else is unacceptable -- 
not just to me, but to all patriotic Americans.

Please be advised that this is an open letter, 
and I intend to make it available to anyone who
wishes to see it.  The time for secrecy in 
government is over.  I ask that you respond to 
me in writing within two weeks, and will take 
no further action until then.

Thank you for your attention to my requests.

Sincerely,

Marina Porter (signed)

cc: Rep. John Conyers Jr.
    Rep. Newt Gingrich
    Rep. Henry B. Gonzalez
    Rep. Lee H. Hamilton
    Rep. Joseph P. Kennedy
    Sen. William S. Cohen
    Sen. Edward M. Kennedy
    Sen. Bob Kerrey
    Sen. John Kerry
    Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan
    Sen. Arlen Specter

--end--

Marina's 09/96 Statement and 04/96 Letter

20 posted on 11/24/2003 6:11:43 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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To: Dog Gone
The problem with any conspiracy theory is that nobody in their right mind would choose a flake like Lee Harvey Oswald to pull off a stunt like this. Especially not the Soviets.

How do we really know that LHO was a genuine flake? Couldn't that have been part of the M.O. chosen for him?

If I wanted people to think I was a flake, I bet I could do a pretty convincing job of faking it.

(Yes, I know that's an invitation for a good wise crack. We'll see how well you display a little self-discipline. LOL!)

21 posted on 11/24/2003 6:13:22 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: tscislaw
>>...nobody in their right mind would choose a flake like Lee Harvey Oswald to pull off a stunt like this...<<

At least not by himself.

I like your train of thought much better.

22 posted on 11/24/2003 6:14:41 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: LouD
Interesting article, thanks for posting the link.
23 posted on 11/24/2003 6:14:49 PM PST by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary? Me Neither!!!!)
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To: Dog Gone
Are you saying you believe the Warren Commission's Report?
24 posted on 11/24/2003 6:16:25 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
Dang that fine print. I was all primed!!

I have yet to read any report that LHO was a cunning or stable person. Everyone who knew him, from his relatives to his acquaintances, thought he was troubled. Intelligent perhaps, but not normal.

It's possible that the gubbermint got to everyone who knew him well and paid them off, but at some point you have to go with the uncontradicted evidence that is out there.

25 posted on 11/24/2003 6:21:12 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Bobibutu
What about the time that LHO was in jail, are there any reports of that time Friday afternoon, Saturday and Sunday morning, wonder what he had to say to anyone. And Ruby, it is just too far fetched that he was overcome with anger to do this hit so that really thickens the plot, if it weren't for that, it would be easier to accept the lone gunman theory.
26 posted on 11/24/2003 6:24:41 PM PST by mel
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To: 19th LA Inf
"Some time in the mid or late 60s Marina married a Texas Instruments electronic technician. It was a minor news story because they eloped to a small nearby town to dodge the press. I have no idea if they are still married."

I think the marriage has been over for some years. The last I read, Marina was working in a Dallas retail store as a clerk. I wonder what happened to her children.

27 posted on 11/24/2003 6:24:57 PM PST by Irene Adler
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To: Nita Nupress
Are you saying you believe the Warren Commission's Report?

I've only read brief excerpts, so I can't endorse it in total.

I've not been convinced, or even close to it, by any of the various conspiracy plots that have been offered up.

Kennedy had a lot of political enemies, just as Bush or Clinton or anyone else who is President has. But that doesn't implicate any of them.

28 posted on 11/24/2003 6:27:58 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Nita Nupress
If I wanted people to think I was a flake, I bet I could do a pretty convincing job of faking it.

To be a consistent flake is something of a challenge if you're really not flaky. Imagine slipping up and acting like a sensible human being when someone else is watching.

29 posted on 11/24/2003 6:28:42 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Bobibutu
I am sure this news is going to have quite a few saying.... OH $hit...
30 posted on 11/24/2003 6:35:02 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Dog Gone
>>>>nobody in their right mind would choose Oswald>>>>>
Unless he was chosen to be the fall guy, the "patsy". That is what he called himself. I heard him say it on tape.
31 posted on 11/24/2003 6:38:57 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Poohbah; Dog Gone
Good point. After I made that statement, I remembered how there were tons of people who thought LHO was a few bricks shy of a load. It would be hard to be that consistent over such a protracted period of time.

I was interested in this subject many years ago and read everything I could get my hands on, including much of the Warren Report. Even though I think the official "lone gunman theory" is a huge stretch to believe, I never did find a conspiracy theory that didn't have its own flaws of logic. What's your opinion on it, Poohbah?

Somebody ping me if this thing is ever solved. :-)

32 posted on 11/24/2003 6:40:36 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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To: will1776
WOAI comes in well here in Iowa on a good night.

I've always figured Oswald was the lone shooter, which is quite apart from saying there was no conspiracy. He was a communist agent as far as I'm concerned.
33 posted on 11/24/2003 6:41:25 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: 19th LA Inf
bump
34 posted on 11/24/2003 6:41:52 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you ought, perform without fail what you resolve.)
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To: mel
"wonder what he had to say to anyone. And Ruby, it is just too far fetched that he was overcome with anger to do this hit "

I really don't know. I do remember something about Ruby having termal cancer. Hmmmmmmmm
35 posted on 11/24/2003 6:42:11 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: Bobibutu
termal=terminal
36 posted on 11/24/2003 6:43:16 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: Walkingfeather
"OH $hit..."

Yeah - brought up a whole new set of questions.
37 posted on 11/24/2003 6:44:40 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: brityank
>>...I believe that Lee Oswald was the FBI informant...<<

>>...my former husband met with the Dallas FBI on November 16, 1963...<<

Mrs. Oswalds' letter sure is interesting. Thanks.

38 posted on 11/24/2003 6:54:28 PM PST by FReepaholic (Never Forget: www.september-11-videos.com)
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To: Nita Nupress
Much of the criticism of the lone gunman theory rests on the "magic bullet" supposedly being in pristine condition.

That is the product of the conspiracy theorists showing you only a side view of the bullet. A base view, especially when done side-by-side with a truly pristine Mannlicher-Carcano bullet, shows just how much damage was done to it--one side (the side opposite the good side that's always shown by the conspiracy types) is completely flattened, and the curvature on the good side is somewhat distorted (which isn't evident in a side-on shot with no perspective).

Additionally, the theorists misplace Connally in the car--they assume that he was sitting at the same level and directly in front of Kennedy. Actually, he was slightly lower and a bit to the left. When put Connally in his true position, the bullet path through both bodies lines up much better.

Also, the "Jack Ruby" aspect of the conspiracy theory falls apart when you look at the timing of his arrival at the jail--if Oswald hadn't asked for a sweater, Ruby would have gotten to the jail five minutes AFTER Oswald was transferred.

One additional point: Ruby was kind to animals, especially to his dog (this was attested by all of his friends). He left his dog in his car before going to the Western Union office, and taking a side trip to the jail. If he'd willfully intended to shoot Oswald at the time, he wouldn't have left that dog in the car.
39 posted on 11/24/2003 6:54:32 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Walkingfeather
So maybe the KGB did it. Why would that be so shocking? They assassinated lots of people. They probably did it just to show off (within the circle).

And I've never understood why a practiced marksman couldn't squeeze off those last 2 shots in a hurry.

40 posted on 11/24/2003 6:54:32 PM PST by cookcounty
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To: Bobibutu
"Ruby having terminal cancer."

He contracted it in prison and died before his 2nd trial. So did not have cancer when he shot LHO.
41 posted on 11/24/2003 6:58:58 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: Nita Nupress
It won't ever be "solved," to everyone's satisfaction. When the rest of the classified information is released (in another 10 years, I think I recall), it will only fuel more conntroversy, I'm sure.

Government agencies and commissions are notoriously inept, and it would be surprising if the Warren Commission got everything right. But they still might have gotten most of it right.

It's even less credible that they engaged in a massive coverup that has basically withstood intense criticism for 40 years.

Too many people would know the truth about a subject too important to keep quiet. Nobody credible has spoken out. The most that has happened is that many people have raised legitimate questions, and ridiculous ones, also.

42 posted on 11/24/2003 6:59:57 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Bobibutu
He contracted it in prison

Contracted it, or was diagnosed as having it?

I had a coworker who refused to see the doctor for his cough until he collapsed. He had extremely advanced lung cancer and died within weeks of the diagnosis.

43 posted on 11/24/2003 7:01:15 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Bobibutu
I don't know if I buy this, but it raises some interesting questions.

Oswald couldn't have been too much of a flake if he managed to shoot Kennedy by himself, as the official theory claims.

If he was just a patsy, manipulated with the help of Marina, then his flakiness wouldn't much matter. All he had to do was get caught.
44 posted on 11/24/2003 7:03:24 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Poohbah
Also, the head shot and neck shot were about 5.5 seconds apart. Unless these were shots #1 and #3, there is no requirement that Oswald get off "three shots in less tham 6 seconds."
45 posted on 11/24/2003 7:03:42 PM PST by cookcounty
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To: cookcounty
Of course, the Zapruder film is silent, so judging when shots were fired is kind of hard.
46 posted on 11/24/2003 7:04:54 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Nita Nupress
If I wanted people to think I was a flake

There is a blond joke hiding here somewhere.

47 posted on 11/24/2003 7:05:13 PM PST by razorback-bert (20 Blonds in freezer: Frosted flakes.)
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To: Bobibutu

Mrs. Kenneth J. Porter (Marina Oswald, former wife of Lee Harvey Oswald) photographed for Life magazine in 1973.

Bill Eppridge/TimePix

Kennedy Assassination Photo Gallery

longjack

48 posted on 11/24/2003 7:06:45 PM PST by longjack
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To: Nita Nupress
It was solved in 1963. Oswald did it. See Poobah's post below for a start. There is ZERO evidence that anyone else was involved, just doubts (Oswald wasn't a good enough shot) bogus science (single bullet won't work), rumor (somebody said this or that but they were killed and couldn't testify), or accusations of evidence tampering (body was altered).
49 posted on 11/24/2003 7:06:56 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Bobibutu

Marina Nikolayevna Prusakova

 

 

 

 

 

 

 "Better to struggle in convulsions,/To be in delirium at death's door at night,/Than to take yesterday's murderer/As a family doctor."

"Sometimes he hears about his father,/That he was kind, brave, and stubborn,/But he does not write his father's surname"

"When times come to strike the enemy,/Fight them off from all frontiers,/Left side, right side, look sharp!"

"Schicklgruber, Adolf (H.)"

(translated excerpts  from the poetry notebook of Marina Oswald) 

Warren Commission exhibits 106 and 107

from Vol. XVI

50 posted on 11/24/2003 7:13:31 PM PST by wolficatZ (___><))))*>____\0/____/|____"flipper to the rescue...")
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